Stiff Front Sway Bar Thoughts

Rusty · 05-22-2017, 10:34 PM

I do both DD and track with the Hotchkis front bar. Love it for both.

markesc · 06-14-2017, 01:27 AM

So should I just buy an eibach front + spl links and call it a day?

or is there anything to be gained by going for a full set front+rear? are we talking 5-10% difference? I do value the highly stock compliance at the limits on uneven pavement as it's a daily setup.

Thoughts appreciated!!!

Jhill · 06-14-2017, 02:50 AM

I'm probably not the fastest here (only 2 track days so far) but I personally actually like aftermarket front and rear (I use stillen) and strangely I think I may even soften the front (one softer than middle) after first track day with oem coils/shocks and stillen bars set to middle/middle I felt balance was great with just a hint of oversteer (and totally eliminated factory understeer) when pinching a turn. After going powertrix with 12k/11k (keep in mind oem is 7.5k/8.1k) I then felt a touch of undsersteer when pushing it in a turn (but the shocks are awesome and completely kept the car stable in the dip at turn 6 at leguna). So I myself couldn't think I would want no rear bar or even oem but maybe I just haven't gotten fast enough to enter turn super hard or I just like a loose rear.

I think Rusty has a lot of track experience so I would trust him but just thought I would give another opinion.

Rusty · 06-14-2017, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markesc

So should I just buy an eibach front + spl links and call it a day?

or is there anything to be gained by going for a full set front+rear? are we talking 5-10% difference? I do value the highly stock compliance at the limits on uneven pavement as it's a daily setup.

Thoughts appreciated!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jhill

I'm probably not the fastest here (only 2 track days so far) but I personally actually like aftermarket front and rear (I use stillen) and strangely I think I may even soften the front (one softer than middle) after first track day with oem coils/shocks and stillen bars set to middle/middle I felt balance was great with just a hint of oversteer (and totally eliminated factory understeer) when pinching a turn. After going powertrix with 12k/11k (keep in mind oem is 7.5k/8.1k) I then felt a touch of undsersteer when pushing it in a turn (but the shocks are awesome and completely kept the car stable in the dip at turn 6 at leguna). So I myself couldn't think I would want no rear bar or even oem but maybe I just haven't gotten fast enough to enter turn super hard or I just like a loose rear.

I think Rusty has a lot of track experience so I would trust him but just thought I would give another opinion.

The whole idea is to have a balanced car, or close to it. For DD, the Eibach is fine. You'll notice the difference. Everyone who has changed bars. Doesn't matter which bar. Have felled an improvement. If you have big meat meats/sticky tires, driving style. Then I think you would need the Hotchkis.

My SPL linkage squeaks afterwards if I get caught in the rain. Then I have to give it a shot of oil. Then it's good until the next time. Also to keep your new bars from squeaking. Where the bar bushings sit on the bar. Wrap that area with white teflon pipe thread tape. Then smear grease over the area and inside the bushing.

gomer_110 · 06-14-2017, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markesc

So should I just buy an eibach front + spl links and call it a day?

or is there anything to be gained by going for a full set front+rear? are we talking 5-10% difference? I do value the highly stock compliance at the limits on uneven pavement as it's a daily setup.

Thoughts appreciated!!!

Front bar is all you need.

markesc · 06-23-2017, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

Front bar is all you need.

Any other opinions on this?

About to order soon!

05-22-2017, 10:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 69 Posts: 35,362 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	I do both DD and track with the Hotchkis front bar. Love it for both. littlejuanito and Halfkiddio like this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

06-14-2017, 02:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jhill Track Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San jose Posts: 854 Drives: 2013 370z sport Rep Power: 3385	I'm probably not the fastest here (only 2 track days so far) but I personally actually like aftermarket front and rear (I use stillen) and strangely I think I may even soften the front (one softer than middle) after first track day with oem coils/shocks and stillen bars set to middle/middle I felt balance was great with just a hint of oversteer (and totally eliminated factory understeer) when pinching a turn. After going powertrix with 12k/11k (keep in mind oem is 7.5k/8.1k) I then felt a touch of undsersteer when pushing it in a turn (but the shocks are awesome and completely kept the car stable in the dip at turn 6 at leguna). So I myself couldn't think I would want no rear bar or even oem but maybe I just haven't gotten fast enough to enter turn super hard or I just like a loose rear. I think Rusty has a lot of track experience so I would trust him but just thought I would give another opinion. Rusty and littlejuanito like this.

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06-14-2017, 01:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
markesc Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Utah Posts: 381 Drives: 2014 370z M.B. 7AT Rep Power: 3367	So should I just buy an eibach front + spl links and call it a day? or is there anything to be gained by going for a full set front+rear? are we talking 5-10% difference? I do value the highly stock compliance at the limits on uneven pavement as it's a daily setup. Thoughts appreciated!!!