Big Brake Kits
 

So I was browsing through big brake kits. I want something that can handle more abuse then the oem blanks. These are the 3 I'm considering I just like to hear some pros and cons about these. I know brembo and ap racing should be added to the list, but I'm trying to stay in somewhat of a budget.
1. Akebono
2. Wilwood
3. Stop tech

Are you driving the base model?

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you should prolly tell us what you want to do with your car

for getting groceries i'm sure your base model brakes are all good

if u are putting down 600hp at the track we should talk aftermarket

in between not sure there's anything better than the akebono's for their ease and price

if I have the sports brakes would I need anymore upgrades if I'm not tracking, just mountain driving (with at most bolt ons)?

new pads
new rotors
good tires
good fluid
maybe some SS lines

you realize the sport brakes are freakin' 14 inch rotors?

If you have the sport package, stainless steel lines and a pad upgrade will probably be more than enough for extra bite. But if it's shorter stopping distance you're after, you may want to consider a tire upgrade.

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From the list, I would say Akebono.

Akebono being a lot cheaper if you get all the available options, I remember one of my friends got his around USD 2700 excludes shipping, front and rear with 2-piece rotors. I cannot think of any stoptech full F & R kits being at that price range with same rotor size. I wouldn't consider wilwood as they have smaller rotors (because I am focusing on performance and heat resistance).

If you get better pads and air ducts, it will make a big difference. I used the stock pads with SS lines and air ducts and it made a big difference in how long you can brake hard at track. But still I feel they lack stopping power, which hope changing front from 255 PSS to 275 RE71-R will make a huge difference in this regard with Yaw sensor disabled. Currently I have all Z1 2-piece rotors, SS lines, RBF600 and Winmax W6.5 pads.

I think price wise, Akebonos couldn't be beaten.

Akebono is fine for track days, going full-on race competition requires Alcon/AP Racing/Stoptech race.

I have used Akebono for many many track days, and cold-firing rotors helped with both bite and rotor longevity.

I have an AP Racing 362mm rotor kit to go on the car once it receives a cage and upgraded engine but these are overkill for spirited driving and track days

I am using Akebono at the track with no issues breaking from over 100 mph down to whatever speed I need to be at. I have brake cooling ducts, SS brake lines, Castrol SRF brake fluid, Z1 2 piece rotors and Carbotech x10 and x8 brake pads. I have never had any issues with brake fade or boiling my brake fluid. I don't think I will need to upgrade my brake system until I get much better as a driver and if I make the jump to competitive racing as BGTV8 stated.

I have the sports package. I have all motul fluids trans, brake, ps, clutch, and diff. I have ss brake lines and run carbotech xp10/8 when tracking. I'm building an high all motor goal is to have 400whp. Then ill be upgrading the suspension to mca coilovers and spl etc..... ill still drive the car on the streets occasionally, but for the moat part i will be tracking it.

I would start off just upgrading the akebonos. Pads rotors fluid and lines. If you outdrive them go with Alcon so you can peel your face off when you hit the brakes.

Thanks folks

also Z1 makes two pieces rotors for the Akebonos
they save weight and i believe have superior venting in their design

And also realize i've set 13" rotors/pads on FIRE before. :icon14:

Size ain't everythin, but it helps.
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How about the Brembo 6 pot front calipers with Z1 2-piece rotors?

completely unnecessary for street, as has been said multiple times above

And you've quite clearly been doing different driving than the OP, so . . . . cool story?

Fair enough this is what i was looking for. I have the brake ducts and yaw kill switch. I run xp10/8 when on the track and re-11's all around. I'll just go with akebonos until i start to out drive them.

If your looking to look good and stop bbk all the. Way. I love the look of big brakes and well u can't beat having better brakes then necessary. If there's one feeling everyone doesn't want is to push ur foot down on a brake pedal and feel nothing. Willwood 6 pot front and 4 pot rears can be bad for 3200$ish. With 14x 1.25" rotors front and 13 rears.

Didn't realize you have sport package with Akebono already. Yes they are good to an extend and I think for an upgrade you should look at AP racing, Bermbo, Stoptech and other high end companies. I didn't fully utilize the brakes until now, fuel starvation, oil overheat and tires were holding me back. In my local track, Toyobaru drivers uses their stock brakes with upgraded pads and R888 without issue, but depends on how aggressive, they change them more frequently. So, I don't see the 370z akebonos will be any worse than them for track day duty with better pads and tires.


This is an option I am considering, but not sure of brake distribution with the rear 2 pot, not finding any reviews as well to make my mind. I have them on my DD from factory and they are fantastic, but with rear 4-pot and I feel they are more front bias (maybe from oem pads, not sure).

fwiw, the Pirelli World Challenge Z's that I saw down at Mid-Ohio in 2012 were running the factory sport calipers with 2 pc slotted rotors. I figure if factory size brakes are good enough for professional race cars they should be ok for you.

Brake items that should be upgraded though:
Pads
Fluid
Cooling

The reason they run oem is because of the spec rules for the class they wete running in. That said, they got the job done!!!

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https://www.z1motorsports.com/nfs/ni...t-p-21702.html

Anyone ever run these?

Or would it be better saving more for something like the forthcoming ap racing kit.

Rebranded stoptechs. Just get ST’s Trophy kit if you like the brand.

i think i'm just addicted to things with the word "nismo" on it. the feeling will pass

If you're at this price point, you're close on the AP Racing kit I have available (just over $4000 for the fronts if you piece together the parts, much more info in my thread)

I looked into these prior to making my kit, and had some talks with Nismo to confirm more info and here's what I have:

• What is the piston material?

• Aluminum

• Do the NISMO Calipers have dust boots?

• Yes

• Do these bolt up to stock rotor offsets, or will they need to accompanying Aerorotors?

• Offset difference is around 1mm, should be able to bolt up Calipers with his existing 2pc rotor setup.

From the aluminum pistons and having dust boots, I view them more as street calipers. Plus, have been familiar with the caliper body these use from their ST60/40 kits, which have been around for ages.
If you don't need "Nismo" on them, the AP Racing CP9668 and CP9660 calipers are a big improvement for track use. Much lighter, can fit more pad, and hold up to higher temps.

The other point to all of this talk is how is your braking skill?

My son attended mid-ohio performance school went through two cars because he was destroying the brakes. The first one they said ok, then when complain about the second car, they had someone follow him. Then talked to him what he was doing wrong. He was fine the rest of the school.

I only mention that because your braking skill does affect your brakes. Brakes are very important to me, having had a brake failure at 100 mph and I told the instructor we're going straight. I have worked on improving my brake setup, with brake cooling, steel break lines, MOTOL 660 brake fluid, Carbotech Xp10/XP8, frozen front rotors.

It works great, but now I have been told by 3 people my braking needs improvement. Like mash the brakes, take them almost to ABS. So I have to work on that.

So when making decisions on braking, do not forget about how you are braking.

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