Big Brake Kits

OptionZero · 03-30-2017, 01:50 PM

completely unnecessary for street, as has been said multiple times above

OptionZero · 03-30-2017, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by osbornsm

And also realize i've set 13" rotors/pads on FIRE before.

Size ain't everythin, but it helps.

And you've quite clearly been doing different driving than the OP, so . . . . cool story?

Elmo370z · 03-30-2017, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlWakRa

From the list, I would say Akebono.

Akebono being a lot cheaper if you get all the available options, I remember one of my friends got his around USD 2700 excludes shipping, front and rear with 2-piece rotors. I cannot think of any stoptech full F & R kits being at that price range with same rotor size. I wouldn't consider wilwood as they have smaller rotors (because I am focusing on performance and heat resistance).

If you get better pads and air ducts, it will make a big difference. I used the stock pads with SS lines and air ducts and it made a big difference in how long you can brake hard at track. But still I feel they lack stopping power, which hope changing front from 255 PSS to 275 RE71-R will make a huge difference in this regard with Yaw sensor disabled. Currently I have all Z1 2-piece rotors, SS lines, RBF600 and Winmax W6.5 pads.

I think price wise, Akebonos couldn't be beaten.

Fair enough this is what i was looking for. I have the brake ducts and yaw kill switch. I run xp10/8 when on the track and re-11's all around. I'll just go with akebonos until i start to out drive them.

Ghost116 · 03-30-2017, 10:47 PM

If your looking to look good and stop bbk all the. Way. I love the look of big brakes and well u can't beat having better brakes then necessary. If there's one feeling everyone doesn't want is to push ur foot down on a brake pedal and feel nothing. Willwood 6 pot front and 4 pot rears can be bad for 3200$ish. With 14x 1.25" rotors front and 13 rears.

AlWakRa · 03-31-2017, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Elmo370z

Fair enough this is what i was looking for. I have the brake ducts and yaw kill switch. I run xp10/8 when on the track and re-11's all around. I'll just go with akebonos until i start to out drive them.

Didn't realize you have sport package with Akebono already. Yes they are good to an extend and I think for an upgrade you should look at AP racing, Bermbo, Stoptech and other high end companies. I didn't fully utilize the brakes until now, fuel starvation, oil overheat and tires were holding me back. In my local track, Toyobaru drivers uses their stock brakes with upgraded pads and R888 without issue, but depends on how aggressive, they change them more frequently. So, I don't see the 370z akebonos will be any worse than them for track day duty with better pads and tires.

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Originally Posted by Stright_Drop

How about the Brembo 6 pot front calipers with Z1 2-piece rotors?

This is an option I am considering, but not sure of brake distribution with the rear 2 pot, not finding any reviews as well to make my mind. I have them on my DD from factory and they are fantastic, but with rear 4-pot and I feel they are more front bias (maybe from oem pads, not sure).

gomer_110 · 03-31-2017, 11:34 AM

fwiw, the Pirelli World Challenge Z's that I saw down at Mid-Ohio in 2012 were running the factory sport calipers with 2 pc slotted rotors. I figure if factory size brakes are good enough for professional race cars they should be ok for you.

Brake items that should be upgraded though:
Pads
Fluid
Cooling

Hotrodz · 03-31-2017, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

fwiw, the Pirelli World Challenge Z's that I saw down at Mid-Ohio in 2012 were running the factory sport calipers with 2 pc slotted rotors. I figure if factory size brakes are good enough for professional race cars they should be ok for you.

Brake items that should be upgraded though:
Pads
Fluid
Cooling

The reason they run oem is because of the spec rules for the class they wete running in. That said, they got the job done!!!

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SeeThruHead · 09-09-2022, 11:40 AM

https://www.z1motorsports.com/nfs/ni...t-p-21702.html

Anyone ever run these?

Or would it be better saving more for something like the forthcoming ap racing kit.

cv129 · 09-09-2022, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

https://www.z1motorsports.com/nfs/ni...t-p-21702.html

Anyone ever run these?

Or would it be better saving more for something like the forthcoming ap racing kit.

Rebranded stoptechs. Just get ST’s Trophy kit if you like the brand.

SeeThruHead · 09-09-2022, 04:39 PM

i think i'm just addicted to things with the word "nismo" on it. the feeling will pass

DarkJak · 10-19-2022, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead

https://www.z1motorsports.com/nfs/ni...t-p-21702.html

Anyone ever run these?

Or would it be better saving more for something like the forthcoming ap racing kit.

If you're at this price point, you're close on the AP Racing kit I have available (just over $4000 for the fronts if you piece together the parts, much more info in my thread)

I looked into these prior to making my kit, and had some talks with Nismo to confirm more info and here's what I have:

What is the piston material?
Aluminum
Do the NISMO Calipers have dust boots?
Yes
Do these bolt up to stock rotor offsets, or will they need to accompanying Aerorotors?
Offset difference is around 1mm, should be able to bolt up Calipers with his existing 2pc rotor setup.

From the aluminum pistons and having dust boots, I view them more as street calipers. Plus, have been familiar with the caliper body these use from their ST60/40 kits, which have been around for ages.
If you don't need "Nismo" on them, the AP Racing CP9668 and CP9660 calipers are a big improvement for track use. Much lighter, can fit more pad, and hold up to higher temps.

danegrey · 10-19-2022, 08:08 PM

The other point to all of this talk is how is your braking skill?

My son attended mid-ohio performance school went through two cars because he was destroying the brakes. The first one they said ok, then when complain about the second car, they had someone follow him. Then talked to him what he was doing wrong. He was fine the rest of the school.

I only mention that because your braking skill does affect your brakes. Brakes are very important to me, having had a brake failure at 100 mph and I told the instructor we're going straight. I have worked on improving my brake setup, with brake cooling, steel break lines, MOTOL 660 brake fluid, Carbotech Xp10/XP8, frozen front rotors.

It works great, but now I have been told by 3 people my braking needs improvement. Like mash the brakes, take them almost to ABS. So I have to work on that.

So when making decisions on braking, do not forget about how you are braking.

03-30-2017, 01:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,238 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	completely unnecessary for street, as has been said multiple times above __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

03-31-2017, 11:34 AM	#21 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	fwiw, the Pirelli World Challenge Z's that I saw down at Mid-Ohio in 2012 were running the factory sport calipers with 2 pc slotted rotors. I figure if factory size brakes are good enough for professional race cars they should be ok for you. Brake items that should be upgraded though: Pads Fluid Cooling Stright_Drop, xxAGAVExx and Elmo370z like this. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

09-09-2022, 11:40 AM	#23 (permalink)
SeeThruHead Track Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 716 Drives: Red '18 Sport Manual Rep Power: 23498	https://www.z1motorsports.com/nfs/ni...t-p-21702.html Anyone ever run these? Or would it be better saving more for something like the forthcoming ap racing kit. __________________ My Build thread STH Build Plan Thread Images too big fix here

09-09-2022, 04:39 PM	#25 (permalink)
SeeThruHead Track Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Toronto Posts: 716 Drives: Red '18 Sport Manual Rep Power: 23498	i think i'm just addicted to things with the word "nismo" on it. the feeling will pass __________________ My Build thread STH Build Plan Thread Images too big fix here

10-19-2022, 08:08 PM	#27 (permalink)
danegrey A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Knoxville Age: 71 Posts: 3,190 Drives: 12 370Z BK Cherry M6 Rep Power: 649540	The other point to all of this talk is how is your braking skill? My son attended mid-ohio performance school went through two cars because he was destroying the brakes. The first one they said ok, then when complain about the second car, they had someone follow him. Then talked to him what he was doing wrong. He was fine the rest of the school. I only mention that because your braking skill does affect your brakes. Brakes are very important to me, having had a brake failure at 100 mph and I told the instructor we're going straight. I have worked on improving my brake setup, with brake cooling, steel break lines, MOTOL 660 brake fluid, Carbotech Xp10/XP8, frozen front rotors. It works great, but now I have been told by 3 people my braking needs improvement. Like mash the brakes, take them almost to ABS. So I have to work on that. So when making decisions on braking, do not forget about how you are braking. Rusty, xxAGAVExx and Elmo370z like this. __________________ Lots of Changes the Z needs to be driven and driven hard for the car lives for it

03-30-2017, 10:47 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ghost116 Base Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ontario Posts: 167 Drives: Up coming Rep Power: 367	If your looking to look good and stop bbk all the. Way. I love the look of big brakes and well u can't beat having better brakes then necessary. If there's one feeling everyone doesn't want is to push ur foot down on a brake pedal and feel nothing. Willwood 6 pot front and 4 pot rears can be bad for 3200$ish. With 14x 1.25" rotors front and 13 rears.

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