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BobbyLight 03-21-2017 09:05 PM

Good agressive brake pad that will survive zdayz?
 
Any suggestions for a good set of pads for zdayz? Will go with z1 1pc slotted sport rotors.

I dont care about noise or dust at all. I just want the gnarliest pad possible that will survive a thursday through sunday of shenanigans. As well as the 4hr drive from charlotte to fontana, and 4hrs back.

Im one of the rare ones that does more driving than drinking at zdayz :p , so I do need a pad that will not fade horribly on long drives like the poker run , and on back to back (to back, to back) dragon runs.

All I want is a pad can get me home that dreaded sunday night, I can put different pads on when I get back.

Thoughts? Is the hawk HPS race any good?

Spooler 03-21-2017 09:21 PM

Carbotech XP8's all the way around. That is what I run and have never had any issues at all. Z1 sells them. Some folks run XP10's up front and XP8's on the rear. I daily drive on the XP8's also. No issues. While your at it, change out the brake and clutch fluid to Motul RBF600.

Crux 03-21-2017 09:31 PM

Project Mu HC800+ (i think they're called HC+ now) and motul rbf 600 fluid. Turn traction control off.

Halfkiddio 03-23-2017 03:54 PM

Endless MX72's will get you there and back in one piece, and keep going the rest of the year. Talk with John at Corner3 Motorsports for a set.

TerribleONE 03-23-2017 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3630512)
Carbotech XP8's all the way around. That is what I run and have never had any issues at all. Z1 sells them. Some folks run XP10's up front and XP8's on the rear. I daily drive on the XP8's also. No issues. While your at it, change out the brake and clutch fluid to Motul RBF600.

:iagree:

Halfkiddio 03-23-2017 06:27 PM

Having run Carbotechs XP10/8's before the Endless pads, I no longer recommend Carbotech. Endless blows them out of the water in literally every category.


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Spooler 03-23-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfkiddio (Post 3631408)
Having run Carbotechs XP10/8's before the Endless pads, I no longer recommend Carbotech. Endless blows them out of the water in literally every category.


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Link to said miracle workers. Ouch, 500 bucks for a set (Front/Rear).

Halfkiddio 03-23-2017 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3631435)
Link to said miracle workers. Ouch, 500 bucks for a set (Front/Rear).

When you do a cost vs. longevity experiment with the MX72's you will find that they are cheaper than the Carbotechs. A personal friend got at least 50k out of his set, with daily driving in all conditions, Gridlife Road Atlanta, and Znationals at Road Atlanta out of them. As well as many mountain runs.

derraj06 03-30-2017 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfkiddio (Post 3631500)
When you do a cost vs. longevity experiment with the MX72's you will find that they are cheaper than the Carbotechs. A personal friend got at least 50k out of his set, with daily driving in all conditions, Gridlife Road Atlanta, and Znationals at Road Atlanta out of them. As well as many mountain runs.

That would be my car. I'm pulling my MX72s with a fair bit of life left after ~60k miles of tail of the dragon, highway commutes, stop and go in a large city, Grdilife full weekend, Znationals track day, etc. I'm also on the same Z1 two piece front rotors and rear EBC USR rotors with no warping or abnormal wear patterns.

Meanwhile, Halfkiddo has been through what two sets of carbotechs and is now on endless pads over the same period of time with zero track time. He's also been through a few sets of rotors as well.

Z1NONLY 04-12-2017 03:53 PM

I ran Hawk HP+ on my 350Z. They sequel like fingernails on a chalk board when cold and turn your wheels black before you get home from the car wash, but they held up well on the Dragon and stayed consistent. (This is with high-temp brake fluid)

Halfkiddio 04-12-2017 03:55 PM

I really don't like HP+'s. their initial bite is decent, but they overheat somewhat quickly. Their modulation isn't the best either.


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KrnAndy 04-12-2017 10:21 PM

EBC redstuff :)

NorthStyle 04-13-2017 05:26 AM

Racing Brake ET500... they've worked excellent on the Nurburgring so I assume they'd do pretty decent at ZDayz

Halfkiddio 04-13-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by KrnAndy (Post 3640235)
EBC greenstuff :)



God no. Any EBC pad for a car or truck deserves to get thrown in the trash.


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Hotrodz 04-13-2017 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfkiddio (Post 3640306)
God no. Any EBC pad for a car or truck deserves to get thrown in the trash.


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Why...I did the Dragon with red stuff and they performed well. Many folk track with their more aggressive pads and they have a good reputation all around.

Halfkiddio 04-13-2017 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3640363)
Why...I did the Dragon with red stuff and they performed well. Many folk track with their more aggressive pads and they have a good reputation all around.



Having blown through a set of yellows in 9K, I have a bad taste in my mouth with EBC. And I'm not the only one I know of that's had very poor life and performance out of EBC pads.




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Hotrodz 04-13-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfkiddio (Post 3640364)
Having blown through a set of yellows in 9K, I have a bad taste in my mouth with EBC. And I'm not the only one I know of that's had very poor life and performance out of EBC pads.

I think that is more about braking style than the brakes. I have heard the same story about carbotech brakes as well. I'm on the extreme other side of the spectrum as I'm really easy on my brakes. My carbotechs have better than half the pad left and they are year old with a handful of track days on them.

Halfkiddio 04-13-2017 09:16 AM

The set of Carbotechs I had right after them lasted 31k miles lol. It wasn't my driving style.


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Hotrodz 04-13-2017 09:30 AM

I'm not being critical of your driving just pointing out probable possibilities. Not all mods work the same for everyone.

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Halfkiddio 04-13-2017 09:32 AM

Oh I totally understand what you mean by that. I just had a very different experience with EBC than many others did. I just took the Endless ME20's I had off because the rears had gotten down to the rivets. I put Project Mu HC+ pads on in their place, with the expectation that they won't be as good. But I didn't have $500 and a month to wait for more Endless pads sadly.

Spooler 04-13-2017 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfkiddio (Post 3640368)
The set of Carbotechs I had right after them lasted 31k miles lol. It wasn't my driving style.


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WOW, I just checked my CarboTech XP8's expecting them to be done. I have over 60K miles on those pads and still have over 3/4 of pad life left. You must be hard on brakes.

Halfkiddio 04-13-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3640455)
WOW, I just checked my CarboTech XP8's expecting them to be done. I have over 60K miles on those pads and still have over 3/4 of pad life left. You must be hard on brakes.



How do you even do that? Lol. How many miles do you get out of your tires?


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KrnAndy 04-13-2017 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfkiddio (Post 3640483)
How do you even do that? Lol. How many miles do you get out of your tires?


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Hahah yeah over 60k and over 3/4 left is pretty amazing . Btw the yellows probably was a bad batch maybe? And I chose not to go the yellow route cause I do know they don't have a good initial bite. Only when you have a nice heat to them. And using them constantly when hot will probably wear them a lot faster. What pads are you using now?

Canolinumber1 04-13-2017 03:24 PM

I have ebc yellow stuff pads and I don't like them with z1 slotted rotors, stainless lines, and motul rbf600 fluid. When cold they don't do much but once I get some heat in them, they still feel numb. They don't have they bite you would hope for in a pad as aggressive as they claim to be. I've also overheated them on the track before at Englishtown by the end of a 15 minute heat. The only thing they are good for is they are decently quiet after a few stops and don't overheat during autocross.

BobbyLight 04-13-2017 05:53 PM

I ended up ordering xp8's all around with z1 slotted rotors, stainless lines, and rbf600

Spooler 04-13-2017 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfkiddio (Post 3640483)
How do you even do that? Lol. How many miles do you get out of your tires?


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I am easy on brakes and tires. Getting old I guess. Dang that hurt.

Halfkiddio 04-13-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyLight (Post 3640656)
I ended up ordering xp8's all around with z1 slotted rotors, stainless lines, and rbf600

Good choice. I've run the XP10/8 combo before. I liked them. You have to embrace the noise they make though. It's a fun game to see how loud of a stop you can come to :rofl2::rofl2:

Spooler 04-13-2017 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BobbyLight (Post 3640656)
I ended up ordering xp8's all around with z1 slotted rotors, stainless lines, and rbf600

You need to be prepared for one thing. On a rainy day if you drive a good distance on the interstate you will need to tap your brakes from time to time to keep the heat in them. The first time you have a panic stop on cold XP8's you will remember this warning.


I forgot last week.

Rusty 04-13-2017 10:45 PM

I ran 2 seasons of trackdays with one set of Yellowstuff pads. They're great pad for someone starting out doing trackdays. But once you get some wheel time. Then you need to start looking at some others. Using the 10/8 combo for track now. I have the Yellowstuff pads on my Jeep Grand Cherokee, and on my Power Wagon, which used to tow a 10,000lbs camper.

Something else to think about. Some pad and rotor combo's don't work well together.


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