Nissan 370Z Forum  

Coilover question-

Ok I've installed probably 15 sets of coilovers but here's where I'm at. Pic provided.... to get it where I wanted for a drop I had to max out the

Go Back   Nissan 370Z Forum > Nissan 370Z Tech Area > Brakes & Suspension


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-19-2017, 01:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Volk Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Laguna Beach, CA
Posts: 2,214
Drives: Nismo Z
Rep Power: 3066
Volk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default Coilover question-

Ok I've installed probably 15 sets of coilovers but here's where I'm at.
Pic provided.... to get it where I wanted for a drop I had to max out the rear.
I have shaved around 80 pounds off the rear but this is still odd to me.

The spring was ableto wiggle about a 1/4inch in the perch before i set pre-load. It's sung in there now but I wanted to seeifanyone had thoughts. I've always had the spring snug when bolting the .back perch in the rear
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_20170118_161735.jpg (352.3 KB, 32 views)
__________________
AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE
RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON
Volk Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2017, 02:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: San jose
Posts: 854
Drives: 2013 370z sport
Rep Power: 3384
Jhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Volk Z View Post
Ok I've installed probably 15 sets of coilovers but here's where I'm at.
Pic provided.... to get it where I wanted for a drop I had to max out the rear.
I have shaved around 80 pounds off the rear but this is still odd to me.

The spring was ableto wiggle about a 1/4inch in the perch before i set pre-load. It's sung in there now but I wanted to seeifanyone had thoughts. I've always had the spring snug when bolting the .back perch in the rear
Are you shortening the shock at the same time making sure the car isn't just sitting bottomed out in the bump stop?
Jhill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-19-2017, 03:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
Base Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Pleasanton, CA
Posts: 43
Drives: '17 370z Base 6MT
Rep Power: 23
phreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond reputephreak9i6 has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Volk Z View Post
Ok I've installed probably 15 sets of coilovers but here's where I'm at.
Pic provided.... to get it where I wanted for a drop I had to max out the rear.
I have shaved around 80 pounds off the rear but this is still odd to me.

The spring was ableto wiggle about a 1/4inch in the perch before i set pre-load. It's sung in there now but I wanted to seeifanyone had thoughts. I've always had the spring snug when bolting the .back perch in the rear
Typically the adjustment you're showing in the picture is actually the pre-load. You want to adjust the shock in it's mount up or down first, otherwise you'll be riding on bump stops.
__________________
2017 370Z 6MT Pearl White | Fortune Auto 510 Coilovers | Ark GRIP | Stillen Gen3 | Zele body kit
phreak9i6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2017, 09:50 AM   #4 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Volk Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Laguna Beach, CA
Posts: 2,214
Drives: Nismo Z
Rep Power: 3066
Volk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I set the pre-load with the strut/shock. I install the spring and tighten the perch up. Then I raise that 3/8 of an inch and then line the bottom of the strut up with the hole which would set preload.

The issue here is with all the weight I reduced it seems I had to go maxxed out low on the spring and when it's in the perch BEFORE pre-load is set it can wiggle about a 1/4 inch. Normally the spring would not be able to move up and down.

So I set extra pre-load on the spring and it's snug but I've never encountered needing to go max lowering like this.
__________________
AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE
RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON
Volk Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-20-2017, 11:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: San jose
Posts: 854
Drives: 2013 370z sport
Rep Power: 3384
Jhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Volk Z View Post
I set the pre-load with the strut/shock. I install the spring and tighten the perch up. Then I raise that 3/8 of an inch and then line the bottom of the strut up with the hole which would set preload.

The issue here is with all the weight I reduced it seems I had to go maxxed out low on the spring and when it's in the perch BEFORE pre-load is set it can wiggle about a 1/4 inch. Normally the spring would not be able to move up and down.

So I set extra pre-load on the spring and it's snug but I've never encountered needing to go max lowering like this.
Well I'm not sure if I am following you but of course the springs will winggle with no preload, that is why you preload the spring. If you are trying to find out what "max" low is for BC then undo the shock from the knuckle, adjust the spring collars all the way up, use a floor jack under the spring and jack up until you compress the spring 7mm (according to BC they want 7mm preload). Now adjust the shock until the bolt hole lines up with the knuckle. Secure the shock and lock the shocks collar, remove jack. Now you will have you 7mm preload at max lowering. That is your lowest ride height.
Jhill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2017, 01:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ChaseZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,799
Drives: 16 370z
Rep Power: 94683
ChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I had BC's but not with the Swifts so that is likely the difference. Full low was seriously SLAMMED with the BC springs though so it's hard to imagine Swift 'upgrade' making that much difference. And by slammed I mean like full airbag undriveable low.

BC preload is 10mm if I recall, so like 3/8"
ChaseZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2017, 06:11 PM   #7 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Volk Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Laguna Beach, CA
Posts: 2,214
Drives: Nismo Z
Rep Power: 3066
Volk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

I have M7 Japan coilovers. I got it all squared away today

I've installed BC before. 1/4-1/2 is normal preload or until the spring doesn't move basically.
__________________
AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE
RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON
Volk Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2017, 06:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
Volk Z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Laguna Beach, CA
Posts: 2,214
Drives: Nismo Z
Rep Power: 3066
Volk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond reputeVolk Z has a reputation beyond repute
Default

The issue really was reducing close to 100 pounds above my trunk area... it raises the car up like a half inch plus.
__________________
AMUSE * TOMEI * STILLEN * CRAFTSQUARE
RECARO * 3M * TOP SECRET * SLICKCARBON
Volk Z is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2017, 06:26 PM   #9 (permalink)
A True Z Fanatic
 
ChaseZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,799
Drives: 16 370z
Rep Power: 94683
ChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond reputeChaseZ has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Volk Z View Post
The issue really was reducing close to 100 pounds above my trunk area... it raises the car up like a half inch plus.
Yep it's amazing the difference that makes. I took my small sub box out yesterday and it rose like 1/2". That's not including that I already don't haul around a spare tire, jack, took or much of anything else that isn't necessary for the function of the car. Even all that foam in the back is gone lol
ChaseZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2017, 07:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
Track Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: San jose
Posts: 854
Drives: 2013 370z sport
Rep Power: 3384
Jhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond reputeJhill has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Volk Z View Post
The issue really was reducing close to 100 pounds above my trunk area... it raises the car up like a half inch plus.
Ah that makes more sense. I missed the part about reduced weight, may need to drop a spring rate now.
Jhill is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Coilover Question Jawed Brakes & Suspension 5 06-01-2016 04:09 PM
Coilover question? ItsErnie Nissan 370Z General Discussions 2 01-12-2016 07:42 PM
Coilover question XxACExX Brakes & Suspension 21 12-15-2013 03:38 PM
D2 Coilover question? jappyjapz Brakes & Suspension 5 11-04-2011 07:27 PM
Coilover question?! andrewkd16 Brakes & Suspension 5 08-10-2011 10:33 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2