Eibach Sway Bar Settings

FLA370Z

I just purchased front and rear EIBACH sway bars. I have already installed the rear on the middle setting but after looking on the forum I can't seem to find if the softer or stiffer setting on the front is better or worse for daily street driving. I know there's only two settings and I can trial and error my concerns but I would rather get some feedback from the community. Thanks!!! 😃

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Jsolo

I would drive it for a while the way it is. Determine if you have an oversteer or understeer condition. From what I can remember, setting on the front affects the rear and vice versa. There was a thread on here (or myg37) that went into great details how to adjust it based on what you're experiencing.

Fwiw, when I installed mine, set the front to the softest, rear to middle and haven't touched it in nearly 5 years. Given your car is lighter with much different driving dynamics this may not be directly applicable

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gomer_110

Full stiff on the front and full soft on the rear.

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Rusty

Those of us who track. Run the stiffest front bar. The Hotchkis, and run either the Hotchkis rear bar set on the softest setting, run the stock bar bar, or no rear bar.

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Bshields22

I always thought the stiffer the front the more likely it is to understeer. What about sways with coils. Wouldn’t your coil setting come into play with the stiffness of the sways?

Would really like to know why the stiffest setting is best. Again, I always thought the stiffer the rear is compared the the front, the more oversteer you can produce.

What would be a good canyon/track set up with KWv3 and eibach sways? I know personal preference is a big factor but I’d like a recommend starting point based on people experience with sways and coils in general.

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gomer_110

Stiff front/soft rear yields better power down on corner exit since the rear of the car isn't immediately trying to come around with the slightest bit of throttle application.

Spring rates absolutely can be a factor. The question is how far down the rabbit hole do you want to go. The KWv3's definitely aren't unique enough to warrant anything beyond the stiff front and soft rear bar recommendation.

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MaysEffect

You are right to think that, essentially the open variable is tire grip, if you don't have tires that have enough grip, having a large front ASB will overload the outside tires and cause the car to start to slide....overheat..slide some more. Additionally, having rear tires that simply have MORE grip than the front will also lead to a similar problem. With a oem type staggered setup, the care tends to naturally want to understeer a bit more for the later reason, thus some people choosing a larger rear bar.

Spring rates is often the contributing factor, as you can overcome similar issues of roll/dive/squat by using stiffer rates rather than using a swaybar, but this does not give you the added benefit of cross weighting. It's all a balancing act between these factors. Tires being a major proponent in choosing the correct balance.

Making the front stiffer is to do the exact opposite to the problem above. If a car naturally oversteers, it's most likely because the front tires have more grip than the rear (or the rear not having enough). This can happen by running a squared setup, a mixed tire setup (softer tires on the front) or a weight balancing problem...A very distant but equally important problem would be tire pressure and heat issues. Because our cars are weight biased slightly to the front, the rear will tend to slide out early in the turn causing a quick sensation of oversteer. Adding a larger front bar can balance this out for several reasons, ultimately it's done by increasing understeer slightly and cross weighting which allows the rear to sit (squat) into the corner. This is what Gomer described. IF the car still tends to understeer too much, then you probably do not have enough front grip or the spring rate is not optimized for the sway bars & corner loads.

This is a question of tires and alignment. IF you already have these parts installed and you are not getting what you want out of them, you may want to look into alignment settings and getting better tires if you don't already have something good.

Are you having a problem with turning accuracy? Mid corner grip?, bump stability?

A larger/stiffer front bar should help tame steering speed and thus oversteer moments. Conversely a larger rear bar can help turn in speed and agility all things being equal. You can tune your alignment and tire setup to make either work. Overall a larger/stiffer rear bar is less stable, certainly without significantly higher levels of downforce and tire grip.

FLA370Z

Thanks guys I appreciate it the feedback I'm going to start off with the stiff setting up front and middle setting on the rear drive around for a week or so and then adjust accordingly.

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FLA370Z

Thanks Rusty

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Hotrodz

I just switched out my Eibach sways for Hotchkiss. I initially ran full soft rear and middle up front. I ended up with full stiff up front and my Nismo oem bar in the back. It was much better for me. The first setup would snap under steer which was scary as hell!

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Rusty

You mean snap oversteer. That's when the rear steps out like right now. Understeer is when you turn the wheel, and it keeps going straight.

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DeliriousClam

My mind autocorrected it

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Jsolo

What is snap under steer?

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Jsolo

Rusty beat me to it.

Here's some good reading.

Understeer, Oversteer and how to adjust for it

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