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Chuck33079 11-16-2016 09:31 PM

So you're paying $3k out of pocket for all new oem parts? Sticking with an oem csc will just lead you right back to this same spot. You could have paid half for a better setup.

Billibob22 11-16-2016 10:27 PM

Where would I go and how would I do that?

Zbrah 11-16-2016 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3578932)
The whole shabang
They are replacing everything I elected to stick to Nissan
Some of the list:
Clutch
Fly Wheel
CSC
Clutch Master
all fluids/gaskets/labor of course
Coolant flush
Leaking coolant line replacement $280 alone
Power steering fluid
There is more ill have a list tomorrow night when its done and pictures stay tuned
My hope is that this thread will help anyone who is new to the Z and needs to know what to possibly expect... stay tuned. :-)

:wtf2:

Billibob22 11-16-2016 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3578966)
:wtf2:



? :-)


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Presto 11-17-2016 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3578955)
Where would I go and how would I do that?

When OEM parts fail, usually better to go aftermarket. Better quality an in some cases cheaper than oem as well
here are 2 vendors to get you started

Nissan 370Z South bend DXD clutch kits


https://www.z1motorsports.com/perfor...l-c-6_385.html

Zbrah 11-17-2016 08:10 AM

You got that warranty in writing? If not, demand for one!

JARblue 11-17-2016 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3578932)
They are replacing everything I elected to stick to Nissan

:wtf: Why on earth would you do that? Did you not read anything about the CSC on this forum? As Chuck said, OEM crap is what put you in this position in the first place :eekdance:

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3578932)
My hope is that this thread will help anyone who is new to the Z and needs to know what to possibly expect... stay tuned. :-)

Putting OEM garbage back in your car is not the way to do this. There's enough information on this forum already that anyone who has even done a cursory search knows how shitty the OEM CSC is and what to expect: failure at any random time.

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3578955)
Where would I go and how would I do that?

Joe @ ZSpeed ... give him a call, tell him what kind of driving you do and what your priorities are regarding the clutch action, and he will set you up with the best kit for you at a great price (including an aftermarket CSC that won't fail on you).

BehindSpace 11-17-2016 12:29 PM

Stick with OEM and the warranty brother. Ignore the noise, you dont need to justify your decision to others.

Chuck33079 11-17-2016 01:26 PM

Loose clutch petal
 
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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3579161)
Stick with OEM and the warranty brother. Ignore the noise, you dont need to justify your decision to others.



This is terrible advice. We're telling him to use cheaper, less failure prone parts. You're telling him to overpay for garbage.

Given that you told people 320 degree oil temps and 10k oil change intervals are ok, maybe you should not be in the advice business.

Zbrah 11-17-2016 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3579161)
Stick with OEM and the warranty brother. Ignore the noise, you dont need to justify your decision to others.

The oem parts are what gotten him here in the first place :gtfo2: troll

BehindSpace 11-17-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3579184)
This is terrible advice. We're telling him to use cheaper, less failure prone parts. You're telling him to overpay for garbage.

Given that you told people 320 degree oil temps and 10k oil change intervals are ok, maybe you should not be in the advice business.


I think i give outstanding advise. oil coolers that dont let the oil get to over 212 do more harm than good and limp mode is too low if its at 280 it shud be raised to 320 like other manufacturers, the car needs to go to 212 to 300 every time or its not evaporating the moysture

BehindSpace 11-17-2016 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3579222)
The oem parts are what gotten him here in the first place :gtfo2: troll

i give excellent advise. the aftermarket parts broke also and then they sayd oh you need to replace the master athe same time, then the elimination kit sayd oh you need to adjust it thruout its life to maintain pressure plate clearance as your clutch wears down. i pick oem with warranty!

BehindSpace 11-17-2016 04:09 PM

advice not advise

Billibob22 11-17-2016 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3579161)
Stick with OEM and the warranty brother. Ignore the noise, you dont need to justify your decision to others.



Thanks for that
I am in Madera, Ca.
I cannot drive all over this state trying to find someone to do this work
Also, I was just notified today that half of all these repairs will be covered...
Change that to 1,690$
:-)

Zbrah 11-17-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3579249)
Thanks for that
I am in Madera, Ca.
I cannot drive all over this state trying to find someone to do this work
Also, I was just notified today that half of all these repairs will be covered...
Change that to 1,690$
:-)

It's your money. Do as you wish but I highly suggest you get that warranty in writing if not done so already. You're going to need it.

Billibob22 11-17-2016 08:41 PM

I will
I will post it tomorrow
Thanks for the half full glass :-)
I love this 40th and will continue to restore it. The rims are next !

Zbrah 11-17-2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3579327)
I will
I will post it tomorrow
Thanks for the half full glass :-)
I love this 40th and will continue to restore it. The rims are next !

Don't bother man. No one care for your little warranty. If you can't see people were trying to help you with sound advice then don't come posting here seeking for help.

Billibob22 11-17-2016 09:55 PM

Such a happy guy... can you please excuse yourself from my thread.... thank you.


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Rusty 11-17-2016 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3578494)
$3,380
I went ahead and replaced the whole thing
Guaranteed 3 years 50,000
I'll have it back Thursday

I took the car to San Fran the first Friday of this month to a meeting...
I got to Pleasanton and it went to the floor.
I was prepared
I continued to pump and pull the clutch off of the floor until I got there...
On the drive home same thing
Repeated the pumping and pulling off of the floor with moments of pressure in between...
Got it home
Replaced fluid
Got through about a week with pressure
Took it to the appointment this last Saturday
Pressure tested no good in both master and slave
Pedal on floor by now, completely failed
We will see Thursday!


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Quote:

Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3579249)
Thanks for that
I am in Madera, Ca.
I cannot drive all over this state trying to find someone to do this work
Also, I was just notified today that half of all these repairs will be covered...
Change that to 1,690$
:-)

Christ. They are butt raping you big time! :eek: You got a warranty that's crap! Shouldn't have to pay another $1690. :shakes head: You was given good advice, but didn't take it. It's your money.

Jsolo 11-17-2016 10:07 PM

The only way I can see replacing these parts with oem is if it's all covered under warranty. Or perhaps a deductible ($100) if covered under the extended warranty. Otherwise, replace the nissan garbage with something else.

Zbrah 11-17-2016 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3579354)
Such a happy guy... can you please excuse yourself from my thread.... thank you.


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With your little attitude, you deserve to get stranded on the road side. I'll be here when that happens. And that's not even a question if it would happen but when :happydance:

Rusty 11-17-2016 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3579241)
I think i give outstanding advise. oil coolers that dont let the oil get to over 212 do more harm than good and limp mode is too low if its at 280 it shud be raised to 320 like other manufacturers, the car needs to go to 212 to 300 every time or its not evaporating the moysture

Here's what I think of your advice. :wtf:

Problem is. The ecu starts to pull timing at around 230F.

Oil does NOT have to get to 212F for the moisture in oil for it to boil off. It will start to evaporate at 110F. If you maintain 110F, it will never get moisture. I used to work with equipment that had 7,000 gal oil systems. Engineered the bugs out of the systems.

Mustangs, and Vette C7 Z06's have a high oil temp problems too. Chevy quite selling the Z06 until they can figure a fix.

Billibob22 11-17-2016 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbrah (Post 3579360)
With your little attitude, you deserve to get stranded on the road side. I'll be here when that happens. And that's not even a question if it would happen but when :happydance:



Can you please **** off? Thanks!

Billibob22 11-17-2016 11:11 PM

This will be the last post on this forum of angry idiots :-)
I tried
Never again

Rusty 11-17-2016 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Billibob22 (Post 3579372)
This will be the last post on this forum of angry idiots :-)
I tried
Never again

I agree with you. There are a few idiots on here. But no one is angry at you. If you took the time to research on the problem that you posted. You would have seen others had the same problem and their fixes. 95% of them did not go back and use oem parts because of repeated issues with the oem parts. You was given good advice and wasted it. Members who had the problem or have fixed the problem gave you the advice. So now it's costing you even more.

axmea? 11-18-2016 02:23 AM

OP. I had mine fail at 12k and was covered under factory warranty. It was a sudden failure while driving 70 on the fwy. Imagine how that felt. The replacement failed again under 60k. It was a slow progressive csc failure this time and no longer covered under warranty at that point. Two failures within 60k. I ended up with an aftermarket set after that. You have coverage for 3 years/ 50k so you will be fine but will certainly experience another failure covered or not. The point many of us made was to go aftermarket with better performance while you had a chance. At $1690, you would have gotten a better product elsewhere. The silver lining is you'll get back on the road in your Z and it was half the price they quoted you.

Watch for steering lock, your differential bushing, and never make a sharp right turn with your tank low on gas.

JARblue 11-18-2016 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3579161)
Stick with OEM and the warranty brother. Ignore the noise, you dont need to justify your decision to others.

You are the noise here, moron. He obviously doesn't have a warranty if he is paying $1700 out of pocket. Your so-called advice is absolutely terrible :shakes head:

God-Speed 11-18-2016 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3579161)
Stick with OEM and the warranty brother. Ignore the noise, you dont need to justify your decision to others.

OK TROLL, it is time for you to leave!!!!:gtfo2:

BobbyLight 11-18-2016 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BehindSpace (Post 3579243)
i give excellent advise. the aftermarket parts broke also and then they sayd oh you need to replace the master athe same time, then the elimination kit sayd oh you need to adjust it thruout its life to maintain pressure plate clearance as your clutch wears down. i pick oem with warranty!

Actually, the CMAK kit does not need adjustment :hello:


The OP seems like a sailed ship, I think we are wasting our time considering he doesn't listen at all. Lets just wait until the new csc fails and he comes back with the same problem again for the lulz :drama:

B&W_Evader 11-18-2016 09:04 AM

How much you wanna bet...

Dealer says clutch is fine so we did not change it.
CSC is fine so we won't cover anything under warranty.
Since CSC wasn't bad we put it all back together for you.
Please give us $1500 for the wonderful work we did for you. :inoutroflpuke:

Dealers suck!
Good mechanic is hard to find so I feel for you bro!

I'm at 65k, no CSC issue yet but when it comes I will do upgrades.
CSC elimination (probably the Z-Speed one)
Light flywheel (always wanted one of these)
Performance Clutch
Throwout Bearing
Pilot Bearing (needle bearing type not BS bushing type)
Motul RBF600 Fluid (obviously)

List provided so you can compare to the dealer's quote

People sound angry because CSC failures are so common and expensive to fix making this is a real emotional topic.

JARblue 11-18-2016 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 3579485)
How much you wanna bet...

Dealer says clutch is fine so we did not change it.
CSC is fine so we won't cover anything under warranty.
Since CSC wasn't bad we put it all back together for you.

Please give us $1500 for the wonderful work we did for you. :inoutroflpuke:

Dealers suck!
Good mechanic is hard to find so I feel for you bro!

The CSC is noted specifically in the FSM to need replacement EVERY time the transmission is dropped. So if any dealer is giving you this horseshit, you need to call Nissan Corporate asap. Better yet, have a real shop do the work right the first time with an aftermarket solution.

B&W_Evader 11-18-2016 09:24 AM

This would definitely be another DIY for me. I may just go apesh!^ and use it as an excuse to do FI when it happens.

Billibob22 11-18-2016 07:18 PM

Please remove my account, I am done here..
I cannot believe the negativity and rude crap I have dealt with here... It has been sad... I will never understand attacking someone for the decisions they make... offer an opinion yes thats fine but don't attack someone for misspelling words, picking the wrong repairs (in your minds) and not following your recommendations...
More often than not I have left this forum feeling about 1 inch tall...
Hope you are all happy! And to the few who were nice to me, I am sorry :-(
I have deleted Tapatalk and removed my saved password for this forum... have a nice life everyone!
PS
the car is fixed with a warranty now... (I know, a shitty little warranty) but none the less it works for me... I will NEVER sign in again... good luck!
Oh! Don't bother replying I won't ever see it :-)

jabo5779 11-18-2016 08:55 PM

Wow. This thread got ugly. Not really proud at the moment with the outcome of this.

It is great to have a place to come together and share ideas, learn from those that have been there, and grow as a community, but I would think by now in the course of human evolution that people would understand that not everyone has to take your advice.

It is not the end of the world when someone does not follow your advice, it is their path to walk and their judgement they have to live with. That person not following your advice doesn't hurt you at all, so what do you gain from demeaning them?

Anyway, I'll probably get a backlash from posting this, but I, like others, tried to steer the OP down the path of aftermarket options. He didn't take my advice either..... so what? Who cares? He has a warranty and he feels as if he made the best decision weighing the advice he got from this forum with his own personal experience.

roadie 11-18-2016 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jabo5779 (Post 3579735)
Wow. This thread got ugly. Not really proud at the moment with the outcome of this.

It is great to have a place to come together and share ideas, learn from those that have been there, and grow as a community, but I would think by now in the course of human evolution that people would understand that not everyone has to take your advice.

It is not the end of the world when someone does not follow your advice, it is their path to walk and their judgement they have to live with. That person not following your advice doesn't hurt you at all, so what do you gain from demeaning them?

Anyway, I'll probably get a backlash from posting this, but I, like others, tried to steer the OP down the path of aftermarket options. He didn't take my advice either..... so what? Who cares? He has a warranty and he feels as if he made the best decision weighing the advice he got from this forum with his own personal experience.

I agree. Admin should seriously consider banning or at a minimum suspending their accounts, so much for a supportive Z community huh?

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axmea? 11-18-2016 09:32 PM

Ok that was unexpected. Too bad.

JARblue 11-18-2016 11:02 PM

Lol at the butt hurt ...

Sorry but sometimes things truly are black and white. In this case, there is a right and a wrong way. The wrong way includes another OEM CSC. So anyone recommending to the OP to stick with OEM is ignorant and will be called out as such.

OP, you shouldn't take this so personally - it's just the internet. Good luck with your new OEM CSC :eekdance:

roadie 11-18-2016 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3579758)
Lol at the butt hurt ...

Sorry but sometimes things truly are black and white. In this case, there is a right and a wrong way. The wrong way includes another OEM CSC. So anyone recommending to the OP to stick with OEM is ignorant and will be called out as such.

OP, you shouldn't take this so personally - it's just the internet. Good luck with your new OEM CSC :eekdance:

LMAO, the very definition of ignorance.

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