Is Moton also AST?

GeauxTigers1

Beautiful bro! Have them installed? How much do you enjoy it over stock?

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Ape Factory

Sorry for the late reply, I've had them in for a week and a day now. Managed to screw up my rear preload initially and went back and changed them this morning. Made quite a difference in rear compliance.

Absolutely loving them. I used to run Aragostas on my FD3S so they were a bit of a known quantity. Best way I can describe them is it's made the car feel 500 pounds lighter. Body roll and squat have been reduced substantially (I have a G IPL so it has the larger Nismo sway bars) and it feels more neutral than it did prior. Steering is sublimely precise and quickened without feeling nervous in the least.

I felt the stock suspension was actually pretty good but it wasn't always tidy and it had too much body motion. The car always felt it's weight. Not so with the Aragostas. But buy them directly from Japan. You'll save a ton of money.

Also, Aragostas are designed and tested in Japan but made in Holland. They are serviceable in the states by AST which is in California. It's my understanding they use some internal AST parts but many are unique to the brand.

The front damper package is five pounds lighter per side than the OEM package too. The rears, with the OEM location are the same weight.

OptionZero

I ordered mine thru bulletproof because they're established and I wanted the peace of mind. Unfortunately it's been a three month wait(March 15), altho they said my stuff is due to arrive early June

Did U go thru KTS on eBay? I saw those listings for way cheaper than BP and that made me nervous. I didn't want to spend a few thousand on an eBay seller

Did customs hit you at all for taxes/fees? I got stuff directly from Europe before and got his with a few hundred extra

Slartibartfas

He did indeed get them through KTS. And yes, he had to pay duty.

http://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-a...coilovers.html

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OptionZero

Really wish I saw that thread before paying BP

Spooler

Did you get the pillowball top mounts for the front?

OptionZero

I believe he got rubber mount

Ape Factory

Hey guys, sorry for the non-immediate response, I'm not getting any email notifications of replies to this thread.

Anyway, yes I went with the rubber upper mount instead of the full-on pillow ball since the car is street driven and the roads suck around here.

I did go with KTS and duty was less than $70. Here's the rub. Different states have different tax rates. I used this link to calculate potential fees.
New Import Duty & Taxes Calculation | DutyCalculator

Given the feedback for KTS on the Ebay site was very good, I felt comfortable pulling the trigger. Their English is not the best and it usually took two days for a response but everything came out fine in the end. It helps that you know exactly what you want and have done the research. Really technical questions don't get answered to your satisfaction due to the language barrier.

GeauxTigers1

It's end of June! You get em yet?!

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GeauxTigers1

Just researching on the different suspension systems, and while I still really like AST and JRZ, I'm wondering if I'm going to experience a real difference with how I'll be using the car of the Aragosta?

Mainly street driving, not my daily, but will have some track use, nothing competitive just for my own smiles.

So I can confirm, the Aragostas use OEM location and don't need rebuild. While JRZ and AST both appear to need to be rebuilt every few thousand miles and may even need some reinforcing bc of the location? Sorry a bit new to it all, hoping to clarify, but I also don't want to get into something where the Z is down constantly bc of maintenance on the suspension. I'm starting to lean more towards the Aragosta just bc of the ease of it all. Sounds like a much bigger project with the others and just more stuff to break. Last thing I want is more downtime. However if it's not a constant money pit of maintenance, I'm still interested. The price of the other suspension systems doesn't scare me. It's the apparent alterations and rebuild needs that do. I'm a newbie so I'd need to take it to my shop every time I needed. Anyone shed light on this?

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cv129

Every shock needs to be rebuilt/serviced at some point, just that:

• The general car scene neglects shocks maintenance.
• For lower cost systems, will be cheaper just to sell and replace
• Our butt dyno more often aren't sensitive enough to know it
• The down time and effort/cost being too prohibitive.

I raised that point of shock maintenance to bring awareness. The high initial costs of the shocks in question would justify the owner taking more active measures to ensure the shocks operating at a very high level. However, please don't take it as "you must rebuild them exactly after every xxxx miles or they stop working all together".

Based on experience from the community as a whole (Z and G platforms), you don't need to reinforce the rear shock tower when switching to true type (AST and JRZ in this example).

You do have a 6xx+ whp car, by default you have to take stringent care of your car anyway. Don't let this extra bit deter you. Being not your daily, whatever system you choose, you will have quite a while before any shock needs to be serviced or rebuilt. Don't worry.

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gomer_110

^^^This

If you're really that concerned, you can order the AST dampers as non-truetype in the rear.

Also I've had AST 5200's on my Z for 2 seasons of autox with some occasional street driving and have no signs of degradation.

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OptionZero

My Aragosta Type S w/ pillowball mounts just arrived! They're sitting on the floor w/ a pile of SPL parts

Now I just need to decide which Sacramento area shop to go to

cv129

So x'mas is in June!!!

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OptionZero

real christmas will be October/November . . . awaiting a delivery from Mackin