BBK Comparison thread: Brembo vs. StopTech vs. AP Racing

[ChrisSlicks]

Originally Posted by azndummie

looking at the size of the tiny pins on the rotor hat for the alliance kit makes me scared LOL

The Alliance kit is fine for a street/show car that doesn't see the track much. When you make your choice based on which kit comes with the prettiest color choices, well then you know where your priorities lay.

[Equinox]

anyone actually sell the AP Racing BBK other than Stillen?

[travisjb]

Originally Posted by Equinox

anyone actually sell the AP Racing BBK other than Stillen?

I believe it is exclusive but you could always call ap racing and find out for sure...

[Josh@STILLEN]

STILLEN is the North American exclusive importer for AP Racing road brake kits.. but it goes much beyond that.

We co-develop brake kits utilizing AP Racing components. AP Racing is in the UK, and develop kits for US vehicles using our R&D and engineering staff at STILLEN.

AP Racing BBKs are available throughout the network of STILLEN dealers, a lot of whom are forum sponsors here, such as Forged Performance, Vivid Racing, and potentially even your local Nissan dealership, depending on the specific one and location, but any of them can get them if you'd prefer to have your dealership purchase and install them.

If you're looking for someone specific, feel free to PM me and I'd be happy to help if you're looking for a local dealer.

[MightyBobo]

Status of mind after reading whole thread: blown.

[Equinox]

I'm doing an autocross event this sunday, and I'll decide then, if I want to upgrade to the AP Racing 6 pot and 2-peice rotors. My Wife's Pontiac G8 GXP has the 6-pot Brembo calipers stock, and they are a lot better than my Akebono

[vividracing]

+1 Josh!

[ChrisSlicks]

Originally Posted by Equinox

I'm doing an autocross event this sunday, and I'll decide then, if I want to upgrade to the AP Racing 6 pot and 2-peice rotors. My Wife's Pontiac G8 GXP has the 6-pot Brembo calipers stock, and they are a lot better than my Akebono

The Akebono's do fine at the average length auto-x (e.g. 60 seconds) with an average number of runs (3-4). In longer sessions of 2+ minute runs and 5-runs you can definitely cook them to 800+ degrees and the stock style pads no longer work. At that point you have to swap in track pads such as the Carbotech. Forget the Hawk HP+, the MOT is too low and the grabiness freaks out the ABS.

[imag]

Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Status of mind after reading whole thread: blown.

Yeah - Gary and Chris really outdid themselves on this one. I'm hoping it nets both companies some brake sales...

[Mike@Blackline]

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

The Alliance kit is fine for a street/show car that doesn't see the track much. When you make your choice based on which kit comes with the prettiest color choices, well then you know where your priorities lay.

im willing to put my paycheck down against this absurd statement on the results of a 370Z w/ Alliance setup that will be touring the country this upcoming season hitting many tracks around the country.
EDIT: editing the rest of this post to prevent flames. we will just have to see how they do on this twin turbo 370Z that will put dozens and dozens of hours of track use on these brakes, and let the results speak for themselves.

[Josh@STILLEN]

Just curious to your relationship with Alliance.. you've spent a good amount of time promoting their products, was it a sponsorship deal or more?

Not trying to be harsh, it's just nice to know if statements like this come from personal experience, such as a lot of information in this thread, or if it's just because someone really likes a company or products because of a personal relationship.

[bullitt5897]

Yeah chris's comment was completely ungrounded in regards to the Alliance kit. I will be tracking the car this season and pushing it to its limits. So far the brakes are living up to and beyond my expectations!

[bullitt5897]

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

Just curious to your relationship with Alliance.. you've spent a good amount of time promoting their products, was it a sponsorship deal or more?

Not trying to be harsh, it's just nice to know if statements like this come from personal experience, such as a lot of information in this thread, or if it's just because someone really likes a company or products because of a personal relationship.

Mike has personally used the product on his 350z so he speaks from experience.

[Josh@STILLEN]

Originally Posted by bullitt5897

Mike has personally used the product on his 350z so he speaks from experience.

Cool! I would assume Mike is 'battlewagon'.. I would also assume people would get more out of his experience than making statements of throwing down paychecks as a testament..

The reason that people can look to brands like AP Racing (yes, we develop kits with AP products, and brought Brembo to the aftermarket brake market originally) and Brembo is the established, timeless professional racing pedigree where money is no option, and performance is crucial.

Other brands pop up all the time.. and unfortunately not always to the quality needed to perform when pushed.. Especially when the country of origin can come into play. (general statement, not about a particular brand)

Anyone going to the track looks at pedigree, and technology into the development of brake products.. much beyond the looks involved with a kit, which was Chris' original statement.

[Mike@Blackline]

yeah im not mad, i just hate statements like that because they are the same as people bashing products just because they dont cost a lot, such as wheels or even cars as a whole. and i know what AP is to the brake world, probably the best brakes on the planet given their history, though ive never used them or experienced them. i know when respect is due, and AP gets mine

and obviously id put a paycheck down because i think id win the bet and win my money back and then some