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carlitos_370z 07-16-2015 09:27 AM

Awesome Zoren and thanks for the info... :tup: someone have to make a thread with the best alignment setup for our cars haha! im looking forward to see what alignment setup give to my Z:stirthepot:

P's_Z 07-16-2015 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3258294)
Camber wear is expected when you lower your car ride height but it would not as bad or fast when your toe is close to Zero degrees in front and a little toe in on the rear as Norain have stated.

Im running coilovers and the camber on my rear is -2.8 and -2.4 in front with 0.1xx toe

Sweet Zoren, ill be sure to share ask the shop to align to these specs as suggested. :driving:

Zoren 370 07-16-2015 08:38 PM

Hi Ps_Z

Want to share with you a suggestion from one of our forum member dpathfinder which helped alot with my alignment and made my Z really run very good. Read on and follow his suggestion.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370
Hi

Im planning to change my wheels with size 19x9.5 and 19x11. I do have a 370Z plan to have Tein S springs also.
As you mentioned the front upper arm for the Z does not allow much camber adjustment.
With this type of set up do you think I need to have a camber kit bolt on in front and rear?
I do not track the car mainly on street driving with occasional wild driving.

Thanks for the input.

Dpathfinders response:

It all depends on what you want to do. If you need to bring the camber back to spec, the OEM front suspension will not allow you to adjust camber at all. The rear camber can be adusted to a certain degree in the back. With a 1.25" drop up front and a 1" drop in the rear, which is typical of most lowering springs (even Tein S, despite advertising a 3/4 " drop, my friend's drop seemed more like 1 to 1.25"), your camber will likely sit at around -1.6 to -1.9 up front and -2.4 to -2.8 in the rear. I was lowered on coilovers and I decided to get SPC camber kits front and rear to allow for freedom of adjusting my suspension as I wanted. For an aggressive street/occasional track setup, I ran the following specs: F = -2.2 camber, max castor, 0 toe, R = -2.0 camber, 0.15 deg toe in. The increased front camber actually improves turn-in response.

So, I would recommend that you allow the springs to settle first and then do a wheel alignment. If your front camber is fairly even left compared to right and if your camber is in the neighborhood of -1.6 to -2.0 then just leave it. I suspect your rear camber can be adjusted back to a maximum of -2.2 to -2.4 with the stock suspension pieces. That may cause a bit of uneven wear. Ideally, it should be somewhere between -1.5 to -1.9. So if that bugs you, you can get a rear camber kit.

Hope that helps out.

carlitos_370z 07-17-2015 06:47 AM

Thanks a lot for the info bro!

Peter... when do you are going to get the alignment complete bro? we can go together hahaha!!

daj349 07-17-2015 07:02 AM

Wouldn't lowering the car change the caster? If the caster becomes further away from 0 compared to the stock spec steering response will decrease. What is the stock spec and what did your alignment sheet say?

P's_Z 07-17-2015 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3259128)
Hi Ps_Z

Want to share with you a suggestion from one of our forum member dpathfinder which helped alot with my alignment and made my Z really run very good. Read on and follow his suggestion.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoren 370
Hi

Im planning to change my wheels with size 19x9.5 and 19x11. I do have a 370Z plan to have Tein S springs also.
As you mentioned the front upper arm for the Z does not allow much camber adjustment.
With this type of set up do you think I need to have a camber kit bolt on in front and rear?
I do not track the car mainly on street driving with occasional wild driving.

Thanks for the input.

Dpathfinders response:

It all depends on what you want to do. If you need to bring the camber back to spec, the OEM front suspension will not allow you to adjust camber at all. The rear camber can be adusted to a certain degree in the back. With a 1.25" drop up front and a 1" drop in the rear, which is typical of most lowering springs (even Tein S, despite advertising a 3/4 " drop, my friend's drop seemed more like 1 to 1.25"), your camber will likely sit at around -1.6 to -1.9 up front and -2.4 to -2.8 in the rear. I was lowered on coilovers and I decided to get SPC camber kits front and rear to allow for freedom of adjusting my suspension as I wanted. For an aggressive street/occasional track setup, I ran the following specs: F = -2.2 camber, max castor, 0 toe, R = -2.0 camber, 0.15 deg toe in. The increased front camber actually improves turn-in response.

So, I would recommend that you allow the springs to settle first and then do a wheel alignment. If your front camber is fairly even left compared to right and if your camber is in the neighborhood of -1.6 to -2.0 then just leave it. I suspect your rear camber can be adjusted back to a maximum of -2.2 to -2.4 with the stock suspension pieces. That may cause a bit of uneven wear. Ideally, it should be somewhere between -1.5 to -1.9. So if that bugs you, you can get a rear camber kit.

Hope that helps out.

thanks again zoren! i do in fact have the spc rear camber kit, so adjustments can easily be made. up front is completely oem. ill be going back to the shop in about two weeks to let the springs settle, and ask for the specs suggested. lets hope they can also provide the alignment sheet this time

P's_Z 07-17-2015 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carlitos_370z (Post 3259343)
Thanks a lot for the info bro!

Peter... when do you are going to get the alignment complete bro? we can go together hahaha!!

yes, lets do that. probably in two weeks, let me know if youre ok with that.

P's_Z 07-17-2015 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daj349 (Post 3259363)
Wouldn't lowering the car change the caster? If the caster becomes further away from 0 compared to the stock spec steering response will decrease. What is the stock spec and what did your alignment sheet say?

unfortunately the shop didnt provide it, but ill be asking for it, or the final specs, when i go back


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