swift springs + wheel spacers = HAPPY
 

2014 sport Z, 4k miles on the car.
swift spec r springs + wheel spacers by b2 auto design 20mm front / 25mm rear
alignment + spl rear camber parts going on next week. need time for the springs to settle in.
when i showed the shop my spl parts, they were shocked, they said you aren't playing around, its the best suspension part they have seen, they installed spl parts on a gtr last week. so they were overall happy that i was using spl parts.

swifts spec r - amazing ride quality, better than oem, handle has improved. the ride is not bouncy at all. once the springs settle in, ride quality will only improve. i love it.
the drop is perfect in my opinion. no scraping, no issues what so ever. i love it overall. (use spring compressor obv for the install)

wheel spacers - high speeds no shaking at all, no issues, everything was tightened up using a torque wretch on spacers + all 4 tires.

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Nice...
 

Looks good Evil.
Just curious....any idea what your rear camber is at now?
Why I ask is, once the wheel stands up (pokes out more at the top) when the negative camber is reduced a bit when you get an alignment done, will you still want the 25mm spacers?
I know there are a lot of guys here running 25s on the rear and are quite happy, but I just tried a set of 20s on the rear of my car as a test AFTER an alignment to decide what to get and I figured 25s would have too much poke. (for my liking, anyway) The two of us even figured I could even consider 15s before going to 25s. The 20s were perfectly flush at the top. I know everyone has their own opinions, so you might not like what I like, but 25s would have been too much for me.
I put up a post in the Spacers 101 stickie thread under Wheels and Tires, and my pics look just like the ones posted up there. (I took pics on a BB but they were unusable so I deferred to the ones posted a couple posts prior to mine) It was Friday so my post is probably still the latest one.

EDIT....Just went back and looked. The pics of the rear are in post #318 from Bonzo.

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I have no idea what my camber is right now. Going in on Friday for alignment and spl rear camber arms, toe bolts and lockout kit. I looked at your threat under the stickes section. Hopefully there won't be too much poke lol. I'll see what happens and keep you updated. Everyone told me to go 25's on the rear with stock 19 inch sport Rays / swift spring drop.

Well...I also read what everyone was saying about running 25s on the rear too, but I'm anal so I decided to see for myself before deciding what to get.
My rear camber went from -1.89 degrees when I went in to -1.69 degrees after the alignment. I had set the SPL arms to as close to the same length as the stock arms when they went on.
I bought one pair of H&R 20s knowing that's what I'd be putting on the front. I test fitted one of the 20s on the left rear Friday to see if I liked it or not. I decided I could not go with 25s.

I really value the opinions of others on here, but when it's my car, my money and I've got to live with it, I sometimes just have to do it my way.
I installed the Swifts, camber arms, toe bolts first. Then I did an alignment and measured to figure out what spacers to get. Measuring wasn't conclusive so I bought a pair of 20s to do a real world test. I went and ordered a 2nd set of H&R 20mm spacers. All four 20s will probably go on next weekend.

I love how the 20s look on the front of your Z. I was concerned whether 20s would be enough on the front. I was thinking you could almost run 25s. Now I figure the 20s are good to go. I was concerned about rubbing with the 25s.

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That looks so much cleaner.. the wheel gap was just disgusting. I did the same within one month of ownership. Congrats!!!

4 x 4
 

Geez...the more I look at your before and after pics, the more I think the before pics make the Z look like a Donk or even a 4 X 4. I'm not a huge fan of the newer Sport wheels either but they look SO much better with the drop on the Swifts and the spacers.

Looks good Evil.

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Good word choice
 

The day I had my Xpel and C-Quartz applied I was looking at my Z in the parking lot from the window in a coffee shop. The 19 Sport wheels with the gap at stock height make it somewhat disgusting. Good word choice.

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haha thanks guys and zipper 104 yup its all personal preference. hopefully everything goes smooth on friday with the alignment and camber. ill keep this thread updated.

Do that...
 

Keep us up to date and good luck Friday.
When I get mine completed I'll get some final pics up as well.
It's been OVER THREE months since my Swifts went in. The end is in sight, finally.

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Looks good evil, hope to install some swift springs soon too :tup:

Thank you and yes you deff should :)

How are the roads by you? I already scrape the sport chin spoiler on my stock height Z on the crappy roads in NJ so I'm very apprehensive regarding lowering the car. It's my DD and I don't think it looks disgusting at stock height so I'm debating it.

im in long island, all the way east near river head. road are fine here. queens roads and city roads are a bit rough. this is also my daily driver.

at my stock hight- i scrape the front plastic chin spoiler thingy rarely if the driveway to a parking lot is soo deep or un even. but no worries. on bumps i don't scrape it. uneven roads i don't scrape.

on swifts - i think its the perfect drop to the point where you don't scrape plus i have motodyne exhaust and i deff don't want to scrape a 2k exhaust. i still haven't scraped or bottomed out. the plastic chin thingy i haven't scraped yet even on a speed bump. go slow, don't worry about people behind you. i love it, rides and handles better than oem and look great. i say you go for it. anything lower than swifts you will deff scrape.

another pic , look awesome

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looks good !

Looks great evil!!

Swifts are coming back in stock this week!!

So if anyone ordered they will be shipping out soon.

Love the white Evil :)

thank you, sorry i couldn't order it from you, sometimes i hate waiting for parts, not your fault by all means. but yes the car look so much better and yes you are truly a great vendor :happydance:

No worries man. Get me next time ;)

when i turn my wheel all the way to the left or right, it makes a creaking sound from the spring. the shop didn't put my oem rubber piece back on the spring. i think thats what causing the creaking sound. here is a pic of my oem springs
i go back in friday for alignment and rear camber parts. should i tell the shop to put these rubber piece back on ? so it can eliminate the creak sound ?
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Those OEM rubber pieces should be reused on the Swift springs.

thank you, i will tell the shop to slide it back on.

nice work dude!!! looks really good :tup: I Love my Swift Spec R too :p

I got off the phone with swift and they said it's not nessacry to put the rubber piece back on. What was making that creaking noise was in parked my handbrake was up and when I turned the wheel it made a noise but when hand break down it didn't . So obv the car moves a bit with hand break up it creates a friction.

just did wheel alignment and rear camber arms and toe bolts, couldn't wait till friday, everything came out perfect, rides like a champ

Looks great, evil! A buddy and I put on Swifts, SPL rear camber arms, toe bolts, and lock out bolts over the weekend and I couldn't be any happier. Looks great, rides great, and handles great! Now I just have to find some wheels that I like and I'll be all set.

Congrats on a great job and a great looking Z!

Because of this pic i had to re-do my mod list. Next mods are springs, camber arms and spacers!

Btw, update your profile pic and put this one! :tup:

thank u guys i appreciate all the comments, everything turned out perfect, and rides like a champ. love it, springs are awesome.

Evil, sorry to bug you again with the questions, but do you feel the car sluggish after the spacer install? I ask because searching around i found some comments about how the extra weight of some spacers affect performance. obviously same applies when one puts heavier wheels on the car. Just wanted your input on these spacers specifically.

Also, you still have the stock 275 oem size tires in the back, right? :tup:

yes stock tire size, the car dosent feel sluggish , before the alignment and rear camber arms and toe bolts, car felt sluggish, after the wheel alignment and rear camber arms/ toe bolts, car feels tighter and it feels like it sits even better.

Cool man! Thanks for the replies :tiphat:

Looks much much better!

How did it change the handling at the limits on poor roads?

My concern is that on lowered cars, you usually give up compliance/suspension travel, resulting in excessive under or over-steer depending at the limits if the suspension becomes unsettled (hit gravel/pebbles/expansion joints mid corner).

Stock, for me atleast, the car is predictable and manageable at the limits on public roads.... but I'm not in love with the ride height either.

Experts and OP please chime in!

Would this setup not compromise performance in any way?

Would it be an improvement not just looks wise, but performance wise vs. stock?

Compliance
 

I did not consider the stock springs compliant at all, especially on less than great roads. I hated them. I was so underwhelmed I half thought about unloading my Z. I was hesitant to lower my car because, "How could lowering it be any better?" It just had to be worse, right?
No chance. The Swifts are waaay better than the stockers. I drive the car a little bit more carefully now, but it's not really all that much different than at stock height. I never drag anywhere. I added spacers last weekend and I think the ride is just so superior to stock. It wouldn't have cost Nissan much to drop it a bit, change the spring rate and put it on subsequent model years.
You wouldn't be putting up this post if they had.
A zillion Swift owners can't all be wrong.

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:iagree: looks great!

Much happier since installing Swifts a couple of weekends ago. Z rides much, much better and handles great. Takes bumps of all sizes very well. No complaints whatsoever!

Truly appreciate the honest response!

My mistake with my last vehicle was cheap coilovers, that no matter how many hours I spent trying to get them dialed in, it seemed like it was impossible to find an appropriate balance.

I'm in agreement that the Z seems unnecessarily rough at lower speeds just as a daily driver going to/from work/around down.

Sounds like this is a no brainer improvement, with no compromises other than a slight loss of ground clearance, which I'm not worried about as it's not an off road rally car!

Thanks again for taking the time to reply and post photos for us new folk.

Low speeds around town over poorly done road patching was exactly where the stock ride annoyed me the most. The Swifts don't feel any stiffer at low speeds because they remove most of the jouncy, 'out of compliant' response. They aren't perfect but so much improved that I'm not constantly bitching anymore.

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yup, improved handling and performance. with spl rear camber arms and toe bolts + wheel alignment, car felt even tighter, i was going in and out of lanes with no problem and high speed conering improved. height is perfect. i have motordyne and that ever scrapes. nothing scrapes besides the plastic chin thingy rarely. I'm happy over roll. swifts are perfect.