Upgrading brakes

MYZ34 · 11-22-2009, 07:09 AM

hey all

just wanted to see what BBK option you would choose to go? for myself i will be mostly driving the Z as my daily, but it will have a few good track days per year so i have been looking at upgrading to one of thefollowing.

- Ap racing (14.25f x 6 pot)(13" x 4 pot)
- Brembo (15"f x 6 pot)(14"r x 4 pot)
- Stop tech (15"f x 6 pot)(14"r x 4 pot)

let us know what you would go for.

MYZ34 · 11-22-2009, 07:10 AM

tried to do as a poll but stuffed it up

bezzita · 11-22-2009, 05:51 PM

I would go with Stoptech bcoz it's much cheaper than Brembo and 15" front looks much better than 14.25" AP Racing...., however .... you must get 19" wheels... cant use stock 18"....!

MYZ34 · 11-23-2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bezzita

I would go with Stoptech bcoz it's much cheaper than Brembo and 15" front looks much better than 14.25" AP Racing...., however .... you must get 19" wheels... cant use stock 18"....!

yeah my thoughts the same, i have 3 piece 20" wheels coming, so definatly going either brembo/stop tech

bezzita · 11-23-2009, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MYZ34

yeah my thoughts the same, i have 3 piece 20" wheels coming, so definatly going either brembo/stop tech

If you decided to buy..., let me know.... I am still thinking to get it.... we might save $$$ on shipping

ChrisSlicks · 11-23-2009, 12:08 PM

You can't use the Stoptech 15" 6-pot kit with the 18" wheels either. The only kit that works with 18" is the AP Racing 14.25" kit and the Brembo "caliper upgrade" (uses stock rotors).

MYZ34 · 11-23-2009, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

You can't use the Stoptech 15" 6-pot kit with the 18" wheels either. The only kit that works with 18" is the AP Racing 14.25" kit and the Brembo "caliper upgrade" (uses stock rotors).

hey mate, yeah thats why i have 20" wheels going on. and brembo dont just make a caliper "only" option, they have a complete front and rear bbk option

Togo · 11-23-2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MYZ34

hey mate, yeah thats why i have 20" wheels going on. and brembo dont just make a caliper "only" option, they have a complete front and rear bbk option

Yes Brembo makes a full BBK kit, but Chris was saying that only the stock rotors with a Brembo Caliper upgrade will work with 18" wheels.. the 15" rotors from Brembo in their BBK will NOT work with 18" wheels..

Mike · 11-23-2009, 11:11 PM

the brembo caliper only upgrade does not work with my 18" 350Z track rays wheels. I had to grind on them to make them fit.

Gary_C · 11-23-2009, 11:55 PM

Brembo now offers a 355x32mm Lightweight 6-piston Monobloc brake kit.

It has the same caliper overhang and overall diameter as out caliper upgrade with OEM discs.

If the caliper upgrade fits a particular wheel,...so will our complete 14" brake system...6-piston Monobloc calipers, 14" (355mm) 2pc. fully floating lightweight discs, Ferodo pads, Goodridge braided lines.

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

You can't use the Stoptech 15" 6-pot kit with the 18" wheels either. The only kit that works with 18" is the AP Racing 14.25" kit and the Brembo "caliper upgrade" (uses stock rotors).

MYZ34 · 11-24-2009, 07:42 AM

i think its better to upgrade wheel size and be able to put the complete BBK on eg 15"f and 14"r

ChrisSlicks · 11-24-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by MYZ34

i think its better to upgrade wheel size and be able to put the complete BBK on eg 15"f and 14"r

If you only want to drive on street tires sure. Your tire choices are extremely limited in the 19" size, and almost non-existent in the 20" sizes.

Gary_C · 11-24-2009, 10:34 AM

I agree with Chris.
We developed the 14" (355mm) Front system in order to increase the number of available 18" wheel options for serious track go'ers. "R" compound rubber is much more available, and also less expensive, in 18" diameters.

For those who do want to utilize the larger 15" (380mm) front kit...there are a few 18" wheel options that I know have the ability to accept the larger brake system, so you will have to plan accordingly.

It's the old adage "what comes first, the chicken or the egg?".

MYZ34 · 11-24-2009, 11:17 PM

guy's i've decided on the brembo BBK front and rear just tossing up now which way to go regarding their rotors. either all drilled or all slotted. i will be tracking my car a few times a year but mostly will be my daily, what do you guys think?

Gee · 11-24-2009, 11:22 PM

Gary C
"It's the old adage "what comes first, the chicken or the egg?"."

Complete OT, but to an evolutiuonary biologist this is an easy Q and has been answered years ago. The egg came first.

But who laid the egg, I hear you scream, well, it was a creature almost like a chicken but not quite, whose egg had a slight genetic change to produce the "first chicken"

I'm sorry but thats the answer and its been proven. The egg came first. Build a bridge and get over it.

G

11-22-2009, 07:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
MYZ34 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: brisbane AUS Posts: 111 Drives: 2009 370z 6spd Rep Power: 16	Upgrading brakes hey all just wanted to see what BBK option you would choose to go? for myself i will be mostly driving the Z as my daily, but it will have a few good track days per year so i have been looking at upgrading to one of thefollowing. - Ap racing (14.25f x 6 pot)(13" x 4 pot) - Brembo (15"f x 6 pot)(14"r x 4 pot) - Stop tech (15"f x 6 pot)(14"r x 4 pot) let us know what you would go for.

11-22-2009, 05:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
bezzita Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 152 Drives: 09 370Z 6MT RED Rep Power: 16	I would go with Stoptech bcoz it's much cheaper than Brembo and 15" front looks much better than 14.25" AP Racing...., however .... you must get 19" wheels... cant use stock 18"....! __________________ Street = \| Venaci Spirit 20"x9.5"F +10 - 20"x11"R +5 \| Track = \| Nismo OEM 19"x9.5"F +40 - 19"x10.5"R +23 \| Bridgestone RE-11 265/35/19F - 305/30/19R \|

11-23-2009, 11:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2186	the brembo caliper only upgrade does not work with my 18" 350Z track rays wheels. I had to grind on them to make them fit. __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

11-24-2009, 10:34 AM	#13 (permalink)
Gary_C Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: California Posts: 25 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 16	I agree with Chris. We developed the 14" (355mm) Front system in order to increase the number of available 18" wheel options for serious track go'ers. "R" compound rubber is much more available, and also less expensive, in 18" diameters. For those who do want to utilize the larger 15" (380mm) front kit...there are a few 18" wheel options that I know have the ability to accept the larger brake system, so you will have to plan accordingly. It's the old adage "what comes first, the chicken or the egg?". __________________ I work for Race Technologies, Brembo's sole distributor and representative in the US. I am here as an enthusiast, the opinions shared here are solely mine, & not necessarily shared by that of Race Technologies or Brembo.

11-24-2009, 11:22 PM	#15 (permalink)
Gee Base Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Central Coast NSW Aust. Posts: 71 Drives: 09 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 16	Gary C "It's the old adage "what comes first, the chicken or the egg?"." Complete OT, but to an evolutiuonary biologist this is an easy Q and has been answered years ago. The egg came first. But who laid the egg, I hear you scream, well, it was a creature almost like a chicken but not quite, whose egg had a slight genetic change to produce the "first chicken" I'm sorry but thats the answer and its been proven. The egg came first. Build a bridge and get over it. G __________________ "...'cause the only decent things that come in 2 litres are milk & orange juice"

11-22-2009, 07:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
MYZ34 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: brisbane AUS Posts: 111 Drives: 2009 370z 6spd Rep Power: 16	tried to do as a poll but stuffed it up

11-23-2009, 12:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	You can't use the Stoptech 15" 6-pot kit with the 18" wheels either. The only kit that works with 18" is the AP Racing 14.25" kit and the Brembo "caliper upgrade" (uses stock rotors).

11-24-2009, 07:42 AM	#11 (permalink)
MYZ34 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: brisbane AUS Posts: 111 Drives: 2009 370z 6spd Rep Power: 16	i think its better to upgrade wheel size and be able to put the complete BBK on eg 15"f and 14"r

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