Base Stereo Cheap Upgade

Rhinetom · 09-28-2009, 10:13 AM

I had Best Buy install two front door speakers and cannot believe the difference!
Product: Infiniti Reference 6.5” (REF60221) $180 including installation. Once my install kit arrives, I will have an Alpine deck and amp installed. More to come.

kenchan · 09-28-2009, 12:22 PM

are those coax speakers? what did you do with the tweeter on the dash? just unplugged it?

OVERZLUS · 09-28-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

are those coax speakers? what did you do with the tweeter on the dash? just unplugged it?

I'd like to know about this too...as these are 2-way speakers. I was planning on putting a set of Infinity Kappa 62.9i in mine, but wasn't sure about the tweeter issue.

shabarivas · 09-28-2009, 01:10 PM

I would not let bestbuy TOUCH my car

OVERZLUS · 09-28-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

I would not let bestbuy TOUCH my car

xiven · 09-28-2009, 01:53 PM

gotta be better than billy bob's audio shack

kenchan · 09-28-2009, 02:12 PM

is that bigaudiofanat's new shop name?

jk jk

just kidding!!

bigaudiofanat · 09-28-2009, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas

I would not let bestbuy TOUCH my car

I agree with this as well, also I would not install coaxial speakers when for the same price gotten a really nice set of polk mm series component speakers and not have the stock tweeter still there. When you do not have a tweeter up towards your ears you are off axis and the vocals are not where they are suppose to be. Even if you kept the stock ones connected it would not even sound right.

As for the name thing LOL haha

JoeD · 09-29-2009, 03:36 AM

I'm not a fan of aftermarket audio. I simply don't like the look of a non-factory deck and/or amps/subwoofers in the back, and on top of that...I'm not much of an audiophile. That said, simply replacing the speakers like you have done would likely be the route I'd go if I ever get around to it.

bigaudiofanat, would you say that just replacing the 4 speakers and nothing else in a Base would be a worthwhile upgrade, or is it one of those things where if you're not going to do it right, don't do it all? I would also do this only if I didn't have to cut trim for provisions for larger speakers or alter the look of the interior in any way...just plug-n-play replacements.

From my limited knowledge of car-audio, I understand that it's often the factory head-unit (and their built-in amps) which leave the biggest room for improvement, so would replacement speakers powered by a factory deck make a noticeable difference?

bigaudiofanat · 09-29-2009, 07:43 AM

Okay well replacing just the from COMPONENT speakers "a lot of people are calling it 4 speakers" That would work fine you are not going to get the best you can out of them as the factory amp in the head unit is not that strong. Yes even if you upgraded your deck and not the speakers you would hear a big improvement. Factory systems are not meant for any quality just to be there and have music. Also you will have to cut out the tweeter in itself not cutting anything to the dash just take it out and cut the speakers woofer right out of its metal casing than put your new one in pretty simple.

Rhinetom · 09-29-2009, 08:57 AM

The speakers are two-way and the stock tweeters were untouched. The sound difference (to me) is like night and day.

billydsz · 09-29-2009, 12:37 PM

I am very interested in swapping out the speakers only. I realize that the Bose/Nav system is subpar compared to top line aftermarket decks, but I also don't want to lose the seamless integration with the car my current stock setup has.

So bigaudio, what specific speakers would you recommend for the 370z for a swap of ALL existing Nissan/bose speakers currently in the car?? Much appreciate your help.

speedfreak28 · 09-29-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I agree with this as well, also I would not install coaxial speakers when for the same price gotten a really nice set of polk mm series component speakers and not have the stock tweeter still there. When you do not have a tweeter up towards your ears you are off axis and the vocals are not where they are suppose to be. Even if you kept the stock ones connected it would not even sound right.

As for the name thing LOL haha

Not even close to what off Axis is. Off Axis is when the driver is not angled directly at the driver. This is the most common way to install anyway. In fact the tweeter would sound better lower ( say teh kick or door panel) closer to the midrange. Usually a large format tweeter is used higher on teh dash when running a dedicated midbass or a 3 way front stage.

bigaudiofanat · 09-29-2009, 04:49 PM

Yes but your front stage is not aimed at your listening position nor is it close with the tweeter down in the door

speedfreak28 · 09-29-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Yes but your front stage is not aimed at your listening position nor is it close with the tweeter down in the door

huh? im not following what your saying. if its not aimed at you its off axis. Most drivers respond better off axis.

09-28-2009, 10:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rhinetom Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: United States Posts: 92 Drives: 09 370Z auto, red Rep Power: 16	Base Stereo Cheap Upgade I had Best Buy install two front door speakers and cannot believe the difference! Product: Infiniti Reference 6.5” (REF60221) $180 including installation. Once my install kit arrives, I will have an Alpine deck and amp installed. More to come.

09-29-2009, 07:43 AM	#10 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Okay well replacing just the from COMPONENT speakers "a lot of people are calling it 4 speakers" That would work fine you are not going to get the best you can out of them as the factory amp in the head unit is not that strong. Yes even if you upgraded your deck and not the speakers you would hear a big improvement. Factory systems are not meant for any quality just to be there and have music. Also you will have to cut out the tweeter in itself not cutting anything to the dash just take it out and cut the speakers woofer right out of its metal casing than put your new one in pretty simple. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-29-2009, 04:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Yes but your front stage is not aimed at your listening position nor is it close with the tweeter down in the door __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	are those coax speakers? what did you do with the tweeter on the dash? just unplugged it?

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shabarivas A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 2,188 Drives: 370z MB 6mt Rep Power: 914	I would not let bestbuy TOUCH my car

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09-29-2009, 03:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
JoeD Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA Posts: 495 Drives: Z Rep Power: 0	I'm not a fan of aftermarket audio. I simply don't like the look of a non-factory deck and/or amps/subwoofers in the back, and on top of that...I'm not much of an audiophile. That said, simply replacing the speakers like you have done would likely be the route I'd go if I ever get around to it. bigaudiofanat, would you say that just replacing the 4 speakers and nothing else in a Base would be a worthwhile upgrade, or is it one of those things where if you're not going to do it right, don't do it all? I would also do this only if I didn't have to cut trim for provisions for larger speakers or alter the look of the interior in any way...just plug-n-play replacements. From my limited knowledge of car-audio, I understand that it's often the factory head-unit (and their built-in amps) which leave the biggest room for improvement, so would replacement speakers powered by a factory deck make a noticeable difference?

09-29-2009, 08:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
Rhinetom Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: United States Posts: 92 Drives: 09 370Z auto, red Rep Power: 16	The speakers are two-way and the stock tweeters were untouched. The sound difference (to me) is like night and day.

09-29-2009, 12:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
billydsz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Bern Posts: 252 Drives: 9 370z SptCp SRd 7AT Rep Power: 16	I am very interested in swapping out the speakers only. I realize that the Bose/Nav system is subpar compared to top line aftermarket decks, but I also don't want to lose the seamless integration with the car my current stock setup has. So bigaudio, what specific speakers would you recommend for the 370z for a swap of ALL existing Nissan/bose speakers currently in the car?? Much appreciate your help.