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thompsontechs 07-15-2014 06:40 PM

Zenclosures
 
I spoke with Mike tonight and had an idea I haven't seen here. When I get the box, I will post up some pics, I think some of you might like the idea and Mike said he can duplicate it with no problem.



Sub it..

JT

Jayhovah 07-15-2014 10:09 PM

Subbed! When do you expect to get it?

Nillaz 07-16-2014 11:51 PM

I am intrigued. In for pics.

bigaudiofanat 07-17-2014 04:18 AM

Just hope it's not installing speakers in with the sub box or installing an amp inside the box. Looking forward to the ideas otherwise.

thompsontechs 07-17-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 2898616)
Just hope it's not installing speakers in with the sub box or installing an amp inside the box. Looking forward to the ideas otherwise.

Nope, no speakers, "inside" the box. Mounting speakers in a sub box, even if they have their own airspace is not something we thought wise. We discussed it and the negative outweighed the positive aspects.

The box is on it's way and should be here by this weekend. I will take some images and see how it works out. I will post them back to hear and get some sound recordings, dunno how much you will be able to tell from those, but I will give an honest review of what has been done and if I think it's viable or just something tried and discarded.

JT

Minsu 07-17-2014 02:06 PM

In for Updates!

thompsontechs 07-17-2014 03:54 PM

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Looks like the box won't be here until Monday... That's okay as I work all weekend anyway, just wanted to give you guys the heads-up.

This did show up on my door though!

Crypto2k 07-18-2014 06:02 PM

Curious cat... subbed ;)

andrewbennett 07-20-2014 01:59 PM

Subd for updates!

Jayhovah 07-21-2014 10:02 AM

Today is the day!

thompsontechs 07-21-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 2902958)
Today is the day!

Yup! I got the box today, just unpacked it and the work is top notch. The install will be tomorrow, so look for pics and vids then. If it wasn't 90 degrees and 80 percent humidity I would do it now. I don't want to drip sweat all over my new stuff. lol :p

Jayhovah 07-21-2014 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thompsontechs (Post 2903360)
Yup! I got the box today, just unpacked it and the work is top notch. The install will be tomorrow, so look for pics and vids then. If it wasn't 90 degrees and 80 percent humidity I would do it now. I don't want to drip sweat all over my new stuff. lol :p

Ah man! How about a teaser?

thompsontechs 07-21-2014 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhovah (Post 2903377)
Ah man! How about a teaser?

:) I can't really shoot a teaser without giving it away, so you'll have to wait! No soup for you!! :stirthepot:

JT

thompsontechs 07-22-2014 04:57 AM

I can wait no longer! Woke up at 4am thinking about the install and decided 5am was a good time to start. It's supposed to be 92 plus here with a nasty humidity level, so this seems like a good idea anyway. I will pop in and out through the day with pics. Mounting the amp will be the last thing that get's done as I want it out until I get everything dialed in. Out to the garage!

thompsontechs 07-22-2014 07:06 AM

Install
 
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Okay, dropped it in for a test fit which is perfect. I know many of you think that rear speakers are a waste, but I have to know for myself. I plan on tweaking them and seeing what it feels like. Since I just happend to have an extra pair of Facal PS165s I thought what the hell.

Since the Zenclosure has a ton of unused space on either side, I thought why not punch some holes in there and use it. This is NOT in the airspace for the single rear firing sub.

More pics coming as I work through the install. I know there are a lot of you out there who would like to give rears a shot and this is a great way to try them, it cost you very little to try it and I had Mike throw in a bit of extra material in case I decided I didn't like it and just removed them. If that's the case I am going to put some type of door there, perhaps a hidden one, where I can stash stuff. :P

Until the next ones...

Jayhovah 07-22-2014 08:23 AM

Let us know how it goes! I am one of those "who needs rear speakers" guys though.

thompsontechs 07-22-2014 10:06 AM

Pics
 
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Here's some shots during the install....

Minsu 07-22-2014 11:29 AM

So you have Front speakers, Tweeters, Subs, AND rear speakers?

ufoz8mycow 07-22-2014 05:32 PM

Nice!

I always wondered why nobody took advantage of that space on the Zenclosure to use for rear speakers... I am of the Jeremy Clarkson mindset when it comes to audio. If my car has 10 speakers and yours has only 6, I win. Even if 4 of them are pointless and redundant.

thompsontechs 07-22-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2904449)
So you have Front speakers, Tweeters, Subs, AND rear speakers?

Yes, that is it exactly.... I had 2 pair of Focal 165s, and put the second set in the back. I had the crosses and tweets too, but the system was already bright on the highs.

I used the crossover on the amp (Old Alpine PX-5) The sub is a W8 and I am only pushing 250W at it and it is fine for me.

I will do some recording with front and sub, front rear and sub front and rear no sub etc. Here's the deal for me; the rears made the soundstage off kilter and at first I was disappointed. I started working with the amp and crosses with gain and fade. I finally got to a place where I just laughed my *** off, but I couldn't hear myself laugh.

IMHO anyone that says rears are a waste, haven't had them set-up properly. This thing kicked my ***. I still need to do some tweaking, but I'm going to enjoy it for some time first.

I wish I had better recording equip, but I think I can get the point across with the cell. I will do so in the morning... MY first impression is to tell you if you are going to order a Zenc, order it cut for rears and some material to cover in case you don't like what you hear.

We all know this stuff is highly subjective, but my honest opinion would be AWESOME!!! :owned:

If there is anything you want me to do/tape/show whatever let me know and I will do my best.

Thanks again to Mike from Zenc, you made my week. :eekdance:

JT

thompsontechs 07-22-2014 06:02 PM

Double

thompsontechs 07-22-2014 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ufoz8mycow (Post 2904798)
Nice!

I always wondered why nobody took advantage of that space on the Zenclosure to use for rear speakers... I am of the Jeremy Clarkson mindset when it comes to audio. If my car has 10 speakers and yours has only 6, I win. Even if 4 of them are pointless and redundant.

I am from Missouri, you can tell me all day long that it not worth it, but I have to know for myself. The forum has never lead my astray, and it didn't here, the fronts and sub sounded awesome, but when I added the rears, is just opened up so many options....

I really can not imagine that if you did this like I did you could not find some improvement in your sound-stage.

Thanks for reading...

JT

thompsontechs 07-22-2014 06:15 PM

More pics
 
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Here's a few more pics...

First pic is one of the Focal mounted on the side of the Zenc with baffling and a hard cover to protect the speaker.

The second is a quick connect/dis so if I need to change a tire or remove the box I can do so without getting out a cutters...

JT


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