Bose Package, Worth it?

jaycz · 05-08-2014, 10:09 PM

Bose = buy other stereo equipment

bigaudiofanat · 05-09-2014, 06:47 PM

If these bose pictures of paper cones are considered (quality) than I'm nuts for installing high end speakers made from different materials.

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Should I get the Bose system?

The very first thing you need to ask yourself is this. Am I going to upgrade? Simply put many of you go and drive the Z and do not either bother listening to the stereo or at low volumes. You need to listen to the system how you really would!! Bring cd's, ipods or other media to test your music on the system. Sit in the car and really listen, even if you're not an audiophile, you will know wether or not you will be happy with the system after a few songs. If you are read no more the bose maybe for you. If you think you will be upgrading or even adding a sub read on.

Why is bose bad?
Simply put the bose system is nothing more than upgraded paper woofers just like the base system below are some pictures of some base speakers and some bose speakers. Other than the size the only differences are ohms and the bose had the brand name on them. take a look. More information about the bose system can be found under Car Audio 101

Speakers Bose

Base

Base tweeter

Bose tweeter

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-12-2014, 10:11 AM

Those "tweeters" have no business calling themselves that. They can't put any decent amount of sound into the high ranges. They're big enough to fit an entire aftermarket tweeter into the cone.

bigaudiofanat · 05-12-2014, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Those "tweeters" have no business calling themselves that. They can't put any decent amount of sound into the high ranges. They're big enough to fit an entire aftermarket tweeter into the cone.

So true and the bose home stuff isn't any better. People have been pushed into think their sound is (amazing) when it is anything but.

kenchan · 05-12-2014, 07:50 PM

yah, bose makes good portable PA gear for musicians... like their towers.

im not sure about their headphones either.

Pelican170 · 05-14-2014, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

So true and the bose home stuff isn't any better. People have been pushed into think their sound is (amazing) when it is anything but.

Bose home equipment is absolutely awful. Thats how I began learning about them.

Roddy1 · 05-14-2014, 02:18 PM

It actually sounds very good IMO. I dont need a competition stereo yet its wayyyy better than most factory stereo's. Great clarity, the sub can hit pretty decent with the right songs too.

bigaudiofanat · 05-14-2014, 02:37 PM

I have a theory for the bose lovers that i was talking to my friend about. We are pretty sure it's the placebo effect that it's all in your head from the marketing. If I could do a serious double blind study with a base system in place of the bose system we are convinced that people would thing it would still sound (amazing) simply because it has the bose logo on the door. I have a german friend who was all about his bose system until I sat him in my altima with a focal setup. With him saying wow I never heard that in that song and the clarity is amazing. Ya I think bose has people brainwashed.

kenchan · 05-14-2014, 02:44 PM

true..and not arguing with that.

but let's not forget not everyone's into sound or stereo's to begin with. it might sound good to them even if it's not an audiophile system. hell, normal folks are so messed up, they even think corolla's look good.

MacCool · 05-14-2014, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I have a theory for the bose lovers that i was talking to my friend about. We are pretty sure it's the placebo effect that it's all in your head from the marketing. If I could do a serious double blind study with a base system in place of the bose system we are convinced that people would thing it would still sound (amazing) simply because it has the bose logo on the door. I have a german friend who was all about his bose system until I sat him in my altima with a focal setup. With him saying wow I never heard that in that song and the clarity is amazing. Ya I think bose has people brainwashed.

I think you don't realize that there are a LOT of people, probably the majority, who simply don't care.

I went through an audiophile period when I was a kid. Built some nice speakers with Altec 891A's, EV horn midrange. Some nice dome tweeters. Fancy crossovers. Big old 400 watt Phase Linear amp. Turned up my nose at anything less than Sheffield vinyl or maybe Deutsch Grammophone. Now, especially in the car, it's rare that I even go to the trouble to engage music from my iPhone over Bluetooth. I pay Sirius $160 a year for their shitty compression algorithythms, but that's ok because I rarely listen to anything more intricate than Fox News.

I know great audio. I don't think Bose is great audio. I just don't care.

zakimak · 05-14-2014, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

I know great audio. I don't think Bose is great audio. I just don't care.

or that's it's good enough for most people.

The funny thing about people who loves them or hates them, they are the same. They have preconceive thoughts that does not matter in totality. The argument that it's shitty equipment because of paper cones, size, designed, etc is the same as arguing VVEL is better than pushrod better than VTEC, etc. It doesn't matter, there are limitations and advantages. If it works, it works. Bose works well most of the time, in most environment and situation with most type of music. Where it excel and that applies to most if not all OEM system is packaging and integration and dependent on the level, better acoustic tailoring for different trim levels. Remember the hated "equalization, processing, filtering?", there are reasons for it like reduce distortion, tailoring to different fabrics, keeping that 3 years warranty active all while achieving decent sound for most people.

People bitch and complains about how it's over price and whatnot and fail to realize that to replace it requires installation and associated cost not always factored in the equation by equipment alone. The axxess module, adapters, speaker wires, remote, power, labour all adds up.

Funny how many "audiophiles" decry them yet multi-Billion auto industry continue to buy into their ********. It is what is is and Bose do serve a purpose. It might not serve yours but I wouldn't knock them so readily. Absolute statements are never true and just because you don't like them doesn't mean it doesn't fit another person's needs.....I know what's good for you so let me show you why your tastes are wrong.

Fuzzzy · 05-14-2014, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

...there are a LOT of people, probably the majority, who simply don't care.

This. And the percentage will likely rise. One need to look no farther than how many people watch movies on their tablets or smartphones and are completely happy with the experience.

kenchan · 05-14-2014, 04:24 PM

yep, kinda like you guys thinking those sushi sold at supermarkets taste good. lol.

MacCool · 05-14-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzzy

This. And the percentage will likely rise. One need to look no farther than how many people watch movies on their tablets or smartphones and are completely happy with the experience.

Heh heh. Or who spend a lot of time, money, and headaches getting their Nav screen to display their DVDs instead of just bringing along a retina-display iPad and some Velcro.

I said earlier, for some people car audio is a hobby unto itself. I get that. The nice crisp, clean audio (until you start the car and drive away, anyway) is just a side benefit.

Fountainhead · 05-14-2014, 04:52 PM

For me having everything conveniently installed and sounding decent makes it for me.
I was installing stereos and speakers since before most of yall's balls dropped, and for me it's just too much trouble to rip it all out and cram something else in.

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05-14-2014, 02:18 PM	#52 (permalink)
Roddy1 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Canada/Cayman Islands Posts: 274 Drives: SRT Viper Rep Power: 11	It actually sounds very good IMO. I dont need a competition stereo yet its wayyyy better than most factory stereo's. Great clarity, the sub can hit pretty decent with the right songs too. madmike23 likes this. __________________ 2011 370Z, 6-Speed Manual, Sport Package. - K&N Drop ins \| Top Speed Axleback \| H&R Spacers SOLD 2009 G8 GT, 6.0L LSX V8, Rotofab Intake, ARH Long tubes, SOLO exhaust, VMS Tune - SOLD

05-14-2014, 02:37 PM	#53 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I have a theory for the bose lovers that i was talking to my friend about. We are pretty sure it's the placebo effect that it's all in your head from the marketing. If I could do a serious double blind study with a base system in place of the bose system we are convinced that people would thing it would still sound (amazing) simply because it has the bose logo on the door. I have a german friend who was all about his bose system until I sat him in my altima with a focal setup. With him saying wow I never heard that in that song and the clarity is amazing. Ya I think bose has people brainwashed. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

05-14-2014, 02:44 PM	#54 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	true..and not arguing with that. but let's not forget not everyone's into sound or stereo's to begin with. it might sound good to them even if it's not an audiophile system. hell, normal folks are so messed up, they even think corolla's look good. madmike23 likes this.

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05-08-2014, 10:09 PM	#46 (permalink)
jaycz Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 189 Drives: 09 370z Tour Red 6MT Rep Power: 15	Bose = buy other stereo equipment

05-12-2014, 10:11 AM	#48 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,401 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40569	Those "tweeters" have no business calling themselves that. They can't put any decent amount of sound into the high ranges. They're big enough to fit an entire aftermarket tweeter into the cone.

05-12-2014, 07:50 PM	#50 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah, bose makes good portable PA gear for musicians... like their towers. im not sure about their headphones either.

05-14-2014, 04:24 PM	#58 (permalink)
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05-14-2014, 04:52 PM	#60 (permalink)
Fountainhead Track Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: FL Posts: 834 Drives: 2019 Civic Type R Rep Power: 14	For me having everything conveniently installed and sounding decent makes it for me. I was installing stereos and speakers since before most of yall's balls dropped, and for me it's just too much trouble to rip it all out and cram something else in.