Bose Package, Worth it?

H2O_Doc

Are you talking about your balls or stereo here?

SouthArk370Z

I haven't noticed any Bose "lovers" in here. I think all of us who have "defended" Bose have acknowledged that it is not the system for everyone and that it is far from hi-fi. The point that we are making is that nothing you put in a car is going to sound "right" and you quickly reach the point of diminishing returns so why spend a lot of money trying to reach an unattainable goal?
Yes, there are people that are impressed by the name on the box but I haven't seen them in this thread. I don't care what it says on the label if it sounds good to me.

IMNSHO, it is the placebo effect that causes you to think that one can get hi-fi in a small car. It ain't gonna happen. Nothing in a car is going to be hi-fi. Throw all the fancy equipment at the problem that you want to but you've still got a crappy listening environment.

"If I could do a serious double blind study with a base system in place of the bose system..." You can't, so it doesn't matter.

But if you think you can hear the difference, then go for it. It's your ears that matter, not mine.

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Fountainhead

BAF knows that a better (louder) system can be installed in place of the low end Bose head unit, that's what he's alluding to.
The high end Navi Bose is rather more difficult and people with those are happy with them as they realize the expense and the bother to replace/rip out the system hits the brick wall of diminishing return almost as soon as you realize that your HVAC controls visual feedback go missing when you remove the Bose Navi head unit. I can't testify as to how difficult crafting another display / adapter to replace all of that would be. I don't think in the 2 years I've been following this forum that I've ever seen any one do so for the Navi system.
For some irrational reason, the anti-Bose sentiment is almost as strong as the anti-Apple vs. the anti-Android camps.

kenchan

that's funny cause i own Bose (on my G), ipodtouch 5, and android phones. not to forget, i also own a macbookpro and thinkpad.

Fountainhead

Yeah I have all the flavors too, just like the iPhone for music management/consumption better than Android. I use my Galaxy Nexus for testing Android compatibility but use iPhone 5 / 5S for music / daily driver.

Can't wait to see the new larger iPhone. They finally got it, he he.

Fountainhead

Oh yeah, FWIW, what is REALLY hilarious is most of the "famous" name brand makes, ALSO make the so called "sh*tty" Bose headunits for the OE installs.
Bose can't make a car audio head unit, they just aren't set up. All they do is specify the feature and EQ set, then the famous makers design it for them and sell it with BOSE on the panel. SMH
A classic example of the "Pot calling the kettle black".

zakimak

There's a lot of cross breeding than most people are aware of.

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bigaudiofanat

I can't count the number of speaker, head units, cd changer head units, and amps from bose I have pulled because of failure over the years.

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MacCool

Whereas, see...what matters to me is that every car or truck my wife or I have owned since at least 1999 has had Bose audio and neither of us have had any kind of audio failure. AFAIk Bose is good to go.

bigaudiofanat

Consider yourselves lucky, bose bends you over for replacements out of warranty.

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MacCool

By my experience, I don't count myself lucky, I consider it to be the norm.

bigaudiofanat

I do, considering how many I've replaced in multiple vehicles in 8 years.

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MacCool

So....based on your experience I'm supposed spend the time, effort, money and replace my OEM Bose system even though it works perfectly for me, is on warranty for as long as I'll own the car, and completely meets my music quality expectations? I don't think so.

There's only one reason to go through the significant expense and/or headache of replacing my Bose system and that would be only if didn't perform up to my needs.

Your screen name declares clearly where you're coming from. I get it, and I respect your expertise. I, and about half the people who voted in this thread, Just. Don't. Care. No offense meant.

bigaudiofanat

No what I am saying is if it works for you and it isn't broke don't fix it however getting back on topic is the bose worth it? No

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zakimak

Bose is not obviously worth it to YOU but obviously for Mac, its fine. When taken into consideration the integration, OEM packaging, price point etc, It's okay for me 75% of the time too. What some of us is saying is that given the car environment and use, the fine points of "sound quality" is being fulfilled fine.

What we don't do is go around and make absolute statements or express opinion FOR someone else no matter what our experiences or history in the scene have been. Some of us have been in the industry for years and we've learned that everyone's tastes are different - from the type of music to needs to usage and we respect that. Given their interest, it seems to be best to guide rather than direct. I am an advocate of letting them judge it for themselves and see if it meets their needs. There's no problem of demonstrating the differences but to simply state ones' point of view as facts is simply not accurate when one does not know what is important to the person who has the most vested interest.

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