Bose Package, Worth it?

madmike23 · 05-08-2014, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Fountainhead

I think the OP didn't clarify which Bose head unit he wanted votes on, the budget baseline Bose or the Navigation Bose package. I've never heard the baseline Bose so I can't testify as to how it sounds...

He wants a Nismo- with or without "Bose Package" for $1350. Not after market... its just with or without.

Nismo, this is not the Base model which a lot are probably thinking about. Includes auto dim rear mirror w/remotes, 8 speakers and dual subwoofers, satellite and bluetooth all in that price. Yes, $1350 and done.

Pelican170 · 05-07-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Tree70

Hey guys,

I've been looking at the Nismo's forever now and wanted some info on the Bose package. Right now I can find a Nismo matching most of my requirements but it's missing the Bose package that I wanted. Do you guys really enjoy the Bose package?

I'll be honest, I did the modding "thing" with my previous car and I don't want to touch the Nismo after I get it. Is the stock system much different from the Bose?

Let me hear what you think?

TIA

Anyone who knows about audio knows NOT to buy Bose... They are poor speakers with good marketing. You could replace them with speakers that cost 1/2 as much and they will perform better... People dont like to hear that, but its the truth.

MacCool · 05-07-2014, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Anyone who knows about audio knows NOT to buy Bose... They are poor speakers with good marketing. You could replace them with speakers that cost 1/2 as much and they will perform better... People dont like to hear that, but its the truth.

The point is, a lot of people don't care about accurate music audio in a noisy sports car. To me, it's not even close to being worth it to even just pop a panel and bolt on a replacement speaker, let alone get my credit card out.

Pelican170 · 05-07-2014, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

The point is, a lot of people don't care about accurate music audio in a noisy sports car.

Even more reason to not buy Bose then...

MacCool · 05-07-2014, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

Even more reason to not buy Bose then...

I'm talking about upgrading from Bose. Bose came with my car as part of the Touring package w/Nav. I didn't make that buying choice. I'm sure if I were buying aftermarket, I'd buy something else. No interest in doing so. Bose is good enough for me.

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madmike23 · 05-07-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

It came with the car. I didn't make that buying choice. I'm sure if I were buying aftermarket, I'd buy something else. No interest in doing so. Bose is good enough for me.

I feel the same way. Like the OP said, he doesnt want to do anything with the car. I'd opt for it, which I did. As for any wannabe "audiophiles", its a noisy car... save that for the home or office.

Pelican170 · 05-07-2014, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

I'm talking about upgrading from Bose. Bose came with my car as part of the Touring package w/Nav. I didn't make that buying choice. I'm sure if I were buying aftermarket, I'd buy something else. No interest in doing so. Bose is good enough for me.

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Ok, I dont think i was originally commenting on your post but to the OP. If it came with our car as part of a package, then who cares. If your going to spend money on it, dont.

dkznyc · 05-07-2014, 02:23 PM

I am not an audio person but I also hate bad sound. I got the bose non nav and it sucked so bad I was so dissapointed(very flat sounding but clean). The thought of changing everything made me tired and wonder about the touring package and its value. After, i installed a new headunit with the SOEM-4, the sound was amazing (lack of bass, but very clear even at high levels). I listened to music I didn't even like, just to hear the sound levels and it was crispy. I think after I put a 6" woofer I will be satisfied. If I could do it again, I wouldn't mind the touring package. Just saying.

MacCool · 05-07-2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dkznyc

I am not an audio person but I also hate bad sound. I got the bose non nav and it sucked so bad I was so dissapointed(very flat sounding but clean). The thought of changing everything made me tired and wonder about the touring package and its value. After, i installed a new headunit with the SOEM-4, the sound was amazing (lack of bass, but very clear even at high levels). I listened to music I didn't even like, just to hear the sound levels and it was crispy. I think after I put a 6" woofer I will be satisfied. If I could do it again, I wouldn't mind the touring package. Just saying.

It's all about perspective. For me, the quality of the speakers in the sound system was an absolutly miniscule component of the value of the Touring package. I can't even conceive of the concept of forgoing the Touring package because of a perceived lack of accurate music reproduction, even if I believed that that was true.

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-08-2014, 11:27 AM

Base<Bose<Basic Aftermarket<Mid of the road aftermarket<High end with sound dampening.

Bose will cost just as much basic aftermarket upgrade and sounds worse but saves you the worry of having someone you don't know rummaging through your new car.

If it were me I would save the money for when you are ready to get a real sound system.

zakimak · 05-08-2014, 04:26 PM

The debate about Bose is never ending and no matter the detractors there still a market for them and they are still going strong. Bottom line is they are decent-good for their purposes.

There are many factors going into a system and not always the all ending "quality" of sound. Integration, packaging, price point, ease of use, etc are all factors as much as sound. There will always be compromises. Every vehicle is full of compromises. Agreements between designers and engineers to marketer to distribution must be made. Bose no matter the hate is designed to be "good enough" for the masses while fitting into the structure defined by the manufacturer. Are there better alternative? Absolutely!!! As much as "better" wheels, intake, exhaust, etc. than what's equip on our cars. Even the P1 has compromises, mainly comfort for performance.

All that said is don't knock it just because they are using "paper" cones. It works and that's what it was designed for. Decent sound quality while provide exceptional integration to the system. Is it great? Not to my standard in fact I think it's just okay but it works well enough in the Z for 75% of the time. A noisy environment that demands exceptionally higher db to overcome the environment. Something that the Bose is barely good enough to manage. But it's not bad and when taken into consideration of OEM integration, it is good. I have installed many system and have some serious plans for the Z but seems to be happy enough to not start tearing things apart.

If you don't mind doing some extra work, then I would go aftermarket. That will usually yield better sound. Keep in mind some modification will be necessary and by the time everything is added together (labor, parts, etc) it could be more than you are willing to pay. I'd say go and listen to it and if you're good with that and likes the OEM aspect go with it. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how it's made or what technology is used, how small it is, if the sound is good enough for you, that's all that matters. Your opinion is the only one that matters

jaycz · 05-08-2014, 09:09 PM

Bose = buy other stereo equipment

bigaudiofanat · 05-09-2014, 05:47 PM

If these bose pictures of paper cones are considered (quality) than I'm nuts for installing high end speakers made from different materials.

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Should I get the Bose system?

The very first thing you need to ask yourself is this. Am I going to upgrade? Simply put many of you go and drive the Z and do not either bother listening to the stereo or at low volumes. You need to listen to the system how you really would!! Bring cd's, ipods or other media to test your music on the system. Sit in the car and really listen, even if you're not an audiophile, you will know wether or not you will be happy with the system after a few songs. If you are read no more the bose maybe for you. If you think you will be upgrading or even adding a sub read on.

Why is bose bad?
Simply put the bose system is nothing more than upgraded paper woofers just like the base system below are some pictures of some base speakers and some bose speakers. Other than the size the only differences are ohms and the bose had the brand name on them. take a look. More information about the bose system can be found under Car Audio 101

Speakers Bose

Base

Base tweeter

Bose tweeter

2011 Nismo#91 · 05-12-2014, 09:11 AM

Those "tweeters" have no business calling themselves that. They can't put any decent amount of sound into the high ranges. They're big enough to fit an entire aftermarket tweeter into the cone.

bigaudiofanat · 05-12-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91

Those "tweeters" have no business calling themselves that. They can't put any decent amount of sound into the high ranges. They're big enough to fit an entire aftermarket tweeter into the cone.

So true and the bose home stuff isn't any better. People have been pushed into think their sound is (amazing) when it is anything but.

View Poll Results: Get the 2013 Nismo with or without Bose pacakage...
With Bose	47	51.65%
Without Bose	44	48.35%
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05-07-2014, 02:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
dkznyc Base Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Queens NY Posts: 123 Drives: 370z 350z 300zxTT Rep Power: 12	I am not an audio person but I also hate bad sound. I got the bose non nav and it sucked so bad I was so dissapointed(very flat sounding but clean). The thought of changing everything made me tired and wonder about the touring package and its value. After, i installed a new headunit with the SOEM-4, the sound was amazing (lack of bass, but very clear even at high levels). I listened to music I didn't even like, just to hear the sound levels and it was crispy. I think after I put a 6" woofer I will be satisfied. If I could do it again, I wouldn't mind the touring package. Just saying. Plasmite likes this. __________________ 370Z Monterey Blue 6MT Touring: PT 6266 Turbo, Tial BOV, Tial WG, 750cc injectors, AEM Truboost/Wideband, JWT Flywheel Clutch, Zspeed CSC, Stillen F+R Sway, Powertrix Coil, VLSD

05-08-2014, 04:26 PM	#11 (permalink)
zakimak 6/2/80 - 9/29/14 - RIP Lukas Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 450 Drives: ZR; Q45; VTR1K, GT65 Rep Power: 17	The debate about Bose is never ending and no matter the detractors there still a market for them and they are still going strong. Bottom line is they are decent-good for their purposes. There are many factors going into a system and not always the all ending "quality" of sound. Integration, packaging, price point, ease of use, etc are all factors as much as sound. There will always be compromises. Every vehicle is full of compromises. Agreements between designers and engineers to marketer to distribution must be made. Bose no matter the hate is designed to be "good enough" for the masses while fitting into the structure defined by the manufacturer. Are there better alternative? Absolutely!!! As much as "better" wheels, intake, exhaust, etc. than what's equip on our cars. Even the P1 has compromises, mainly comfort for performance. All that said is don't knock it just because they are using "paper" cones. It works and that's what it was designed for. Decent sound quality while provide exceptional integration to the system. Is it great? Not to my standard in fact I think it's just okay but it works well enough in the Z for 75% of the time. A noisy environment that demands exceptionally higher db to overcome the environment. Something that the Bose is barely good enough to manage. But it's not bad and when taken into consideration of OEM integration, it is good. I have installed many system and have some serious plans for the Z but seems to be happy enough to not start tearing things apart. If you don't mind doing some extra work, then I would go aftermarket. That will usually yield better sound. Keep in mind some modification will be necessary and by the time everything is added together (labor, parts, etc) it could be more than you are willing to pay. I'd say go and listen to it and if you're good with that and likes the OEM aspect go with it. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how it's made or what technology is used, how small it is, if the sound is good enough for you, that's all that matters. Your opinion is the only one that matters __________________ What doesn't kill you might make you a cripple so chose wisely. Free Stuff for Premium Members - Yeah Really

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05-08-2014, 11:27 AM	#10 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,408 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40570	Base<Bose<Basic Aftermarket<Mid of the road aftermarket<High end with sound dampening. Bose will cost just as much basic aftermarket upgrade and sounds worse but saves you the worry of having someone you don't know rummaging through your new car. If it were me I would save the money for when you are ready to get a real sound system.

05-08-2014, 09:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
jaycz Base Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 189 Drives: 09 370z Tour Red 6MT Rep Power: 15	Bose = buy other stereo equipment

05-12-2014, 09:11 AM	#14 (permalink)
2011 Nismo#91 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 2,408 Drives: slowly Rep Power: 40570	Those "tweeters" have no business calling themselves that. They can't put any decent amount of sound into the high ranges. They're big enough to fit an entire aftermarket tweeter into the cone.