Help with Pioneer Install
 

Edit: I updated the diagram, i can confirm that the wiring in this diagram is correct, it works on my 370z. However, keep in mind that this diagram is for those who don't use any adapter harnesses, and want to manually wire everything.

I'm in the process of installing a Pioneer AVH-X5500BHS into my 370Z with base audio. I have my dash taken apart already. I've been researching audio threads and have made this diagram which details how i intend to connect up my wires, i'm just looking to see if anyone experienced can check out this setup and let me know if there are issues before i proceed. This is my first audio/interior related mod, so i was unsure about a few things..

http://s27.postimg.org/54bsxmqer/370...hardness_3.png

Thanks

yah, the main harness looks right.

i forget how i hooked up the antenna harness, but i used the remote turn-on (blue/white) wire from the HU to fire it up. your setup should work since you are using switched power to the antenna.

btw Is #45 on the antenna harness ground?

are you not installing a PAC-PS to get steering controls? :)

Awesome, thanks! #45 is just a blank space in the connector.

I'm on the fence with steering wheel controls, i dont know anything about it yet ill look into it.

I'm also connecting Sirius XM, so i'm going to need to find a place to route the antenna (i think ill use the location AK370Z used, to the left of the right tweeter), and also a location to route the USB and Aux input. Haven't look into it yet been focusing on the harness

definitely do the steering controls. it's worth the trouble. if you want to do the metra axxess, i suggest asking Big (he's an installer/sponsor) about which firmware to use. people where having issues on that. i use PAC-PS and it was easy to tap into the wires. problem is, i forget which wires because it's been 5yrs since i installed that. :D

as for the USB, i routed the cord through the center console and made a hole inside the arm rest area. you can buy usb finishers on amazon where you have a clean usb socket inside the arm rest. i didnt really care for that so just made a hole (forstner bit), fed the female usb cord, and used hard felt to close up the hole around the cord. no issue with rattling or anything like that.

Any recommendations on how to connect the wires? Crimp style butt connectors, scotch type, soldering/heat shrinking? I was thinking crimp style.

for the main harness i solder the wires and wrap them with e-tape or shrink tubing.

as for the steering control modules, etc, i use these taps:

Amazon.com: Install Bay 3M T-Tap Connector 16/14 Gauge - 100 Pack (Blue): Car Electronics

blue ones for bigger wires, red for smaller wires.

also these male spade connectors to plug into the taps :D

Amazon.com: 3M Scotchlok Nylon Fully Insulated Male Spade Type Connectors 22-18 Gauge (Red) - 100 Pack: Car Electronics

same as above, blue for bigger wires, red for small. check details on which gauge to use. most of my stereo wiring i use blue, unless it comes with real skinny wires.

I am currently starting the install - things are going smoothly but we have a question with reguard to the AM FM antenna. Can you guys confirm that pin 44 on the antenna, which is the AM FM signal - needs to connect to the remote system (blue white) on the Pioneer harness?

Also, the wire for pin 44 is shielded - does the shield need to be grounded? Pin 44 is very thick and the remote system is quite thin.

Thanks

this is wat you got right?

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchf...040Ni12-f.jpeg

the blue wire i connected to the remote turn-on wire off the HU (blue/white).
it just needs 12v switched power, so your way should work fine. that's wat i mentioned on my earlier post as the only difference. :)

btw that antenna harness above is the one i used on my install: Metra 40-NI12

this is for my 4500BT.

Oh i didnt know i needed that, were going to buy one now.

Does everything else on my diagram look good? Illumination (-) goes to ground, aka the bolt around the shifter? And ACC from 370 goes to ignition power on pioneer? What is the blue/white wire from pioneer supposed to do, other than hook up to the blue on the parking brake bypass?

Thanks for the help

im not sure if i wired the illumination (-) ground or not since the pioneer side only had the illumination wire.

you can use the HU bracket screw for ground if more convenient. just use your volt meter to find your ground. :)

yah, the acc (red) wire goes to switched 12v on the pioneer.


the pioneer's blue/white remote wire triggers your optional sub if you have one. it just sends a switched 12v. the car has an antenna booster which requires 12v switched power.

I would highly advise against t taps especially for the steering wheels co trols as the operate off resistance and using t taps can up the resistance between the wires. Also unless your not using the Nissan wiring harness from metra 85%of the conextions are all color coded. I hope your not cutting up your factory harness

I didnt know there was a harness that connected 370z to AVH...ect. We did cut the factory harness and wired it into the Pioneer, luckily it booted up and all the functions are working well. Thanks for the help guys.

GJ nissanguy.

no worries on the t-taps. i use it all the time with no ill effects.
also really no issue going directly to factory wiring. it's just easier to revert back to stock if you use one of these metra's, or change HU manuf. later on.

with the pioneer harness, ive gone from 3100DVD, 4100DVD to 4500BT using the same pioneer harness. :icon17:

here's the harness if anyone else is doingin install. for my 09 (non Bose) i use Metra 70-7522.

btw, if you have 13 or newer, double check the harness pn as nissan apparently changed config. per Big.

:eek::icon14::wtf2:
Dude 99% of cars out there have harnessesjust like your antenna adapter.

meh... you're too hung up on doing it like everyone else. like vtec controllers and e-manage systems, it's really no big deal to cut into factory wiring.

the ONLY benefit of using these metra type harnesses is convenience. it's not that big of a deal if someone didnt use them imho.

Not at all man, it's the simple fact that it saves from headache in the long run along with if you ever resell the vehicle. It's better to do things the right way than hack up a brand new car's harness for no reason, these aren't old honda civic's but brand new sports cars. That's why they make these harnesses to make sure it's done right. You said previously you didn't even know they made harnesses for installs!

you're just labeling someone cutting into factory wiring as if they are doing it 'wrong'. maybe for you, but i dont think so. i just use the harness for convenience since i can work on the install off the car and pnp it later.

doest matter if they are sports cars or civic or not. cutting factory wiring to me is no big deal. and dealers are not going to yank out the stereo just to verify wiring.. especially if the stereo is working correctly during trade in.

i think you were just traumatized by your friend that's a girl's bf f-king up install on her car and you were called in to fix it. :icon17:

I've seen harnesses cut before and to me it's a hack job if your going to do it correctly get the proper tools. It does matter that they were cut, especially if you had not disconnected the battery you could of shortened out the can bus system sense those wires are also in that harness with the power and ground. So your basically saying is every installer that uses is harness and does it the right way is wrong? I beg to differ. I'd like for you to walk up to a ferrari owner and tell him you'l cut his harness up for a head unit install. I guarantee if he had any sense he wold walk right out.

:icon08: mang you surely need a gf. that's not wat im saying and you know it.

the harness is for convenience. one can do the install with or without the harness. but labeling someone that chose not to use a harness as doing it wrong is wrong. that's all that im saying.

if your customer wants you to use a harness, great. use it.
if the customer dont care if you did or didnt use a harness, that's also great. if i trusted an installer, i wouldnt care either way.

Dash is put back together. I bought a USB and Aux input, which replaces the 12v power in the armrest. So it looks factory and if i plug my iphone in to charge or for ipod mode, its just hidden away in the armrest.

Is the metra dash kit designed to remove the gap around the head unit? I might get that in the future, as well as a backup camera and maybe new speakers. So far im loving the unit..got myself a nismo background.

http://s30.postimg.org/yzihadiap/photo_4_1.jpg

looks good, nissanguy. :tup:

on my install i just made a gasket that fits around the perimeter of the HU using black hard felt. :) most art stores like michael's, joanne's sells them.


i cant tell in your pict, but if you still have the very thin felt-like oem gasket on the factory bezel, removing it will make the install look cleaner too. i used RC car motor spray to remove, you can use googone or WD40 or watever you got in your garage.

removing the bezel will make the work go faster.

The metra will still have a slight gap where as the scosche model has no gap.

now this is good info, big. :tup:

I'm currently having trouble with the parking bypass on this radio. what type of parking bypass did you use and how did you hook it up?

ebay one but you might need to get the updated version. the seller has an old and new version from wat i understand. get the one that lists your stereo model. i run the ebrake bypass on my 2 other cars and using the newer version. works fine.

on my Z i just use a rocker sw since i needed something to populate the 3 switch slots in the center console next to the cup holder. works great.

My dealership installed my HU in place of getting me a Nav Package that I wanted.

I have never gone back to that dealership for anything, and never will again...

Anyways...

Does someone have a wiring diagram for the stock mic and GPS? The dealership installed a AVIC x940bt. SWI steering wheel controller. They set up the controller and radio properly but couldn't program it lol With some awesome threads from here, I got it working properly.

Later on I installed a AVIC z140bh and got the voice controls to work off my bluetooth steering wheel buttons. I am really happy with it.

I am currently trying to install a beltronics stir plus and tore apart my dash and decided to clean up the mess the dealership left behind. Everything was twisted together with electrical tape, and I have no idea what wire does what. I was also thinking if the Z comes with a mic and a GPS, why not just use it. Otherwise may as well pull it out and try to install the aftermarket where it is located....

Oh and I've got the bose package...

Found this handy guide...

Guess the owner closed the link. Once I have FTP up and running, I will share this file.

In case you run into this issue, it took me some time to figure it out searching online...I installed a 5600BHS with a bypass. It turns out the bypass would allow video to play but certain functions were still locked out. I think the locked out functions are just auto eq and firmware updates. I needed to install a firmware upgrade but could not because of the bypass. I ended up having to pull the head unit out and wire to the parking brake properly. Ironically, the only reason I went with the bypass is I was feeling too lazy to tap the parking brake.

-Mark

I've got a avic-z140bh and I am trying to clean up the dealers install by removing electrical tape and installing butt connectors. Is it easier to replace the RCA connectors? I am not sure how they are wired up from the pioneer harness.

Look at some pics Here