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Awallace00 10-22-2013 10:16 PM

Sub box?
 
I'm looking to get subs for my 370z. Is the only way to install them into our 370's with custom enclosures? Because that is what some people have said and I don't really understand that.

H2O_Doc 10-22-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Awallace00 (Post 2537577)
I'm looking to get subs for my 370z. Is the only way to install them into our 370's with custom enclosures? Because that is what some people have said and I don't really understand that.

I did this and called it a day:

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/23/5y7a4ydu.jpg

Zenclosure.

NismoZ70 10-22-2013 10:51 PM

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I did this and love it

H2O_Doc 10-22-2013 11:00 PM

^if I had usable talents I'd have done this as well.

tRidiot 10-23-2013 02:31 AM

I have a spare Z Enclosures dual 12" box. Dropped back down to a single 12 box.

ufoz8mycow 10-23-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by H2O_Doc (Post 2537634)
^if I had usable talents I'd have done this as well.

That's the corner sub box by Wicked CAS, who is a vendor on this site.

Here you go:

http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/5...enclosure.html

Chuck33079 10-23-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ufoz8mycow (Post 2538303)
That's the corner sub box by Wicked CAS, who is a vendor on this site.

Here you go:

http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/5...enclosure.html

They also have one that fits inside the spare tire so you don't lose trunk space.

TerribleONE 10-23-2013 02:31 PM

Zenclosures box here.. definitely one of the easier routes to go, fits like a charm.

YzGyz 10-23-2013 05:54 PM

I did a good bit of research on sub boxed for the 370 myself. It broke down to 3 options for me.

-Zenclosure: cheapest, look nice, sound good, easy/little work to install, more speaker options: big, take up good bit of trunk, not as custom looking, people can see your stuff through the hatch glass

-Wicked CAS: looks nice, looks custom, sound good, easy to install, dont take up much trunk space, cant see from hatch glass (both corner and spare model): cost a good amount of $$

-build one yourself: how nice and custom it looks depends on your skill, can still cost you good $$, take a long time and planning, requires the most effort, hopefully it will sound good, can or wont take up space depend on design, has the "I made this" coolness

I opted to make my own. I'm fairly handy but this quickly became a big job. I have never worked with fiberglass before. I read and watch online videos on how to work with it and bondo. I should have kurff (sp?) the front edge instead of just t'shirt finberglass it. It would have been faster and less effort. Anyhoo, it turned out nice. Hit hard and solid. I got ideas from lots of online pics. I seach for weeks before I came up with what I wanted.

total cost to make the box in material: ~ $200, fiberglass mat, fiberglass mesh, bondo, mdf, glue, vynle, polyfill, speaker terminal

total time invested in building just the box: about 25 hands on hours. Took some work!!

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psed3a4b40.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...psa24c2c8d.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps62b215fb.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps6f06adc5.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps451f15fc.jpg

This is teh view from inside to give you an idea on space for speaker excursion/truck space.

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps05286c8c.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ps33936695.jpg

Simple mounting board behind my passenger seat for the amps and wires. I'm in the process of changing a few wires as soon as I decide on a new deck. Stupid phone jack audio is BS!!

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/d...pse3d7dc3b.jpg

YzGyz

NismoZ70 10-23-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ufoz8mycow (Post 2538303)
That's the corner sub box by Wicked CAS, who is a vendor on this site.

Here you go:

http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/5...enclosure.html

Actually it's not the corner sub box by Wicked CAS but it is similar. Mines a bit different from theirs. I knew I wanted a sub in that location so I had a local shop put it together. So far it's been great

Awallace00 10-23-2013 09:55 PM

So I can't just buy a bass package that comes with box and everything and expect it to fit?

kwikymart711 10-30-2013 11:01 AM

Wicked CAS has packages that are all inclusive...

Wicked C.A.S.*::*MAGIC BOXES*::*Nissan

Stage 1, 2, or 3 all with varying levels of performance. I read all good things, no one disappointed yet.

ufoz8mycow 10-31-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Awallace00 (Post 2538879)
So I can't just buy a bass package that comes with box and everything and expect it to fit?

If you want a ready-made plug and play solution why not just get a powered sub and call it a day?... I had an Infinity Basslink for like 5 years and in 6 different cars and it always sounded great in whatever it was in.

Infinity BassLink Powered subwoofer: 200 watts and a 10" sub at Crutchfield.com

xxAGAVExx 10-31-2013 11:19 AM

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Cbtech 10-31-2013 06:43 PM

still get to keep my trunk space

http://www.the370z.com/members/cbtec...ure65048-4.jpg

and dont have to worry about puncturing the speaker.

http://www.the370z.com/members/cbtec...tealth-box.jpg

tRidiot 10-31-2013 07:48 PM

That WickedCAS box is about .7 cubes. Around the same as each chamber in the the Z Enclosures dual-chamber box for 10s or 12s. Really too small for most subs, even the supposed "small enclosure" subs I've found I don't care for the sound in the smallest boxes. I ended up dropping from 2 12s to a single 12 for the larger airspace and I like the sound a whole lot better. Total enclosure "Q" changes significantly, and the sub doesn't sound so overdamped and "peaky". If you listen to mostly house or trance music, it does fine, really... but stuff I like with lower frequency bass isn't satisfying to me.

I'm going to go the in-the-floor route and hope I can get plenty of airspace once I yank the spare tire and all the stupid extra partitioning, etc., but that is certainly more effort and more expense. But I will be able to make my system much more stealthy in the process.

It's all a tradeoff.

Cbtech 10-31-2013 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tRidiot (Post 2549907)
That WickedCAS box is about .7 cubes. Around the same as each chamber in the the Z Enclosures dual-chamber box for 10s or 12s. Really too small for most subs, even the supposed "small enclosure" subs I've found I don't care for the sound in the smallest boxes. I ended up dropping from 2 12s to a single 12 for the larger airspace and I like the sound a whole lot better. Total enclosure "Q" changes significantly, and the sub doesn't sound so overdamped and "peaky". If you listen to mostly house or trance music, it does fine, really... but stuff I like with lower frequency bass isn't satisfying to me.

I'm going to go the in-the-floor route and hope I can get plenty of airspace once I yank the spare tire and all the stupid extra partitioning, etc., but that is certainly more effort and more expense. But I will be able to make my system much more stealthy in the process.

It's all a tradeoff.

that's what I did with my system. I removed the spare tire and all the extra foam in the back and made a sub box that was specifically sized for the JL Audio subwoofer. even with the box made specifically for the subwoofer there's plenty of room in there to mount the AMPs. I had mine custom made and it only ran me around $600.

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tRidiot 10-31-2013 08:46 PM

Love some detailed pics if you don't mind, Cbtech. You can PM me if you don't want to post them, I'll shoot you my email, whatever. I saw the ones above, great look on those finished panels. Is that floor elevated over the speaker cone by a couple of incheas or what? Personally, I've considered mounting mine basket-out just for the hell... but I don't know.

How much depth were you able to get out of the rear hatch for speaker mounting? I'm considering a couple of 10" deep subs, so I may have to build it up some, but still would end up with more useable trunk space than now, probably.

cdoxp800 10-31-2013 08:50 PM

Here is mine. Plan on selling it as I am more into tracking my Z.

Sub Box

tRidiot 10-31-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cdoxp800 (Post 2549972)
Here is mine. Plan on selling it as I am more into tracking my Z.

Sub Box

That's great work, man. I can appreciate the work that went into that, even though it isn't my style of setup. I built a similar enclosure for my 240sx, dual 12s in the pass side of the hatch, with extension into the body cavity. It sounded awesome, although I never finished it out with body filler or covered it. Lotsa work, but boy did it pay off in sound! :D

Good job, mamn!

Cbtech 11-01-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tRidiot (Post 2549964)
Love some detailed pics if you don't mind, Cbtech. You can PM me if you don't want to post them, I'll shoot you my email, whatever. I saw the ones above, great look on those finished panels. Is that floor elevated over the speaker cone by a couple of incheas or what? Personally, I've considered mounting mine basket-out just for the hell... but I don't know.

oh its no kind of secret i have some more pix in my album

Nissan 370Z Forum - Cbtech's Album: Custom Sub Box


there are 2 sets of panels that you can see. the first panel sits on top of the box and raises the floor a little over stock height and can be for show since it exposes the speaker. the second set of panels raises the floor another half inch and covers the speaker with a metal grill to protect it. You can drop a bowling ball on it and its safe just dont stab it :icon14:.

The only thing i would change would have been to have the box made wider to allow the sub to sit lower in the gap of the panels. The JL has a pretty far reaching throw and can sometimes knock against the grill of the top panel.

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Originally Posted by tRidiot
How much depth were you able to get out of the rear hatch for speaker mounting? I'm considering a couple of 10" deep subs, so I may have to build it up some, but still would end up with more useable trunk space than now, probably.

There is about 2-3 inches at the bottom to allow for air flow so plenty of room. Im running one 10W6 JL which is more of a stubby sub and isnt too deep. As you can see from the exposed pic there is A LOT of room in there to work with having the tire removed. I had plenty of room to mount the amps and wiring. since i wasnt mounting in the car where it could be exposed i didnt worry about making the wiring all pretty.

Another note: with my ONE 10" inch JL sub running at 500 watts RMS it hits really hard which in turn places a lot of strain on the alternator. When the car is running and it gets a big bass note it will go from 14V down to 11V. So i will be looking at running a small battery in the back to try and offset the load. Unless you're trying to show everyone what you got bumping in the back one 10 is plenty.

tRidiot 11-02-2013 05:01 AM

Meh... I like it loud loud loud.... I've got a single 12 now, down from 2 12s, running about 800ish watts to it now. Not a low-sensitivity sub, either... but it isn't near enough for me. I'm likely going to be running around 3k to subs alone, so I will be forking out for an upgraded alternator. Something at least 270 amps, I think I've seen a couple 320-amp versions. About $750 or so, but well worth it to me. I've got 3 alts and 5kW right now in my Tahoe, so I'm definitely looking for a lot of sound.

I do notice the voltage drop in my system right now, but not nearly as much when I'm driving. At idle it'll pull down into the 11s. Currently about... 1500W or so (rated).

PhizzleP0p 11-02-2013 07:55 AM

What if we have the retractable cargo cover in the trunk? If we install the the Zenenclosures I'm guessing I'll probably have to get rid of the cover? (pretty sure I know the answer but I'll ask anyways lol)

Cbtech 11-02-2013 12:03 PM

Yes since it covers the roller slots

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Ronin06 05-10-2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2549831)
still get to keep my trunk space

http://www.the370z.com/members/cbtec...ure65048-4.jpg

and dont have to worry about puncturing the speaker.

http://www.the370z.com/members/cbtec...tealth-box.jpg

This has to be the slickest install of a sub, I've seen on the Z.

zae757 05-11-2015 12:18 AM

I actually just purchased one of these and waiting for it to come in the mail. I will be writing a in detail review of the product. I purchased the one the spare tire magic box. Seems like a good concept and if it works, I will be more than astonished. The sub that they are providing me with is the JL 13TW5 (one 12').

axmea? 05-11-2015 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cbtech (Post 2549831)
still get to keep my trunk space

http://www.the370z.com/members/cbtec...ure65048-4.jpg

and dont have to worry about puncturing the speaker.

http://www.the370z.com/members/cbtec...tealth-box.jpg

I've done large sub installs in the past. Real easy to go after the SPL. Now for SQ in a tight space, that is where the fun begins. A real challenge is to put an SQ system using a single 8" or better yet a 6" sub. The Z has lots of opportunities to do this. I could do a pair of 6's or 8's on wedge box seated in the front seat. Staging all set in the front.


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