Caution with 2013 models and install
 

Well I got my hands on a 2013 base 370z today for a basic head unit, rear camera, and rear speaker install. Something that should of taken me no more than 4 hours ended up taking almost 10 hours! I strongly suggest reading on.

The biggest problem was the standard metra harness model 70-7552. Let me start by saying it is the wrong one!. It will plug in just like any older model z. However the factory wiring harness is completely different referring to how it's wired. The only wires that are still correct are Front Left speakers, Illumination, and Constant 12 volt. Other than those you have to purchase an additional unit and add pins in blanks in order to use it. I notified metra about this as well as sent them pictures. They replied by saying it is the correct harness and you may have had a defective harness. (Note here that we bought two of them from worst buy)

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Anyone that will be using the metra aswc, make sure you check the newest diagrams! They changed where the pins are located.

New door grommets, these are now solid with no space for a speaker wire. You will be able to drill through them just make sure your drilling thought an empty area. I will have a how to guide later on.

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Thanks for the heads up!
I'm sure this will help out PLENTY of other people in the future

wow thanks alot for the info and post,

Should be stickied.... Good looking out, Matt

I just finished an install on my 2013 as well. I got the metra harness and just removed the rear speaker pins and placed them in the spots needed for the steering wheel controls. Took me all of 10 minutes. I noticed you went with rear speakers so yeah you would of needed 2. As for the speakers, you are correct, You have to go through a solid grommet.

So for those not using rear speakers, get the metra or scosche harness and just remove the rear speaker pins from the harness and place them into slots to connect pins shown in the attached diagram. You can use a small eyeglass screwdriver to remove the pins, just insert it into the hole above the pin (when looking into the connector) this will give you a clean install with no factory wires being cut. As for ground, just run a line and create your own.

Pioneer x5500bhs and Pioneer components installed :tup:

Wish I had that diagram the other day. Thanks for the info, Actually I would not of needed the rear speaker wires because they were begin pulled directly from the kenwood harness. And what are you saying about going through a solid grommet?

We didn't want to start pulling pins so we just purchased a second one and pulled pins from that. In any case is a company tells you it will work with your vehicle you should not have to do such things. I am still in contact with them so hopefully they will fix this. Also we are not talking about the wires for steering wheel controls but wires for power an the right speaker.

looks like a job well done, big. :tup:

NICE TO SEE MY Z On the NET!
That's My Blue 2013 Z and Matt did a Great Job with the install!
Matt, What is the Solid grommet on the door? What had to be drilled?
I must have missed something in the 10 hours we spent with my car.

I have to hand it to Matt. He stayed with it. It was a long process.
I would highly recommend Matt to install for anyone!

I am not sure what he it talking about maybe the door grommet which I was going to look at and report my findings but we were to busy that day.

Great info... :tiphat:

this is making my head hurt, lol. i agree this should be a simple plug-n-play but the powers that be have to make it look so complicated.

Normally it is however with the change in wiring in the 2013 models it no longer is until metra changes their harness or comes out with a new one.

I used a Metra harness and had no issues on my 2013 Nismo.

So was the harness in the OP the wrong one?

Same here on my Base 2013, i supplied my installer
with the metra harness model 70-7552, no problems.
Headunit, door speakers/tweeters, and metra kit for steering wheel controls.

Used the same items as the earlier 370z models.

took about 2.5 hrs to complete.

As stated earlier it could be early 2013 models used the older style. However in this instance it was not the same.
It was the correct one as specified by metra however most pins were in the in correct spots to corilate to the factory harness.

So you really think that my whole wiring harness is differant than other 2013.:shakes head:

Yep:shakes head:

You should be blaming Metra before Nissan.:tiphat:

Never blamed anyone just a fair warning to what I have ran into.

silly question, in the diagram of the pin #'s is that as you are looking into the harness or is that from the wire side? i think it is looking into the harness at the pins because that matches the 7552. if that is the wire side of the OEM harness that would be a good match as well.




maybe i am just over thinking it.

well, thanks to the diagram and all the topics mentioned my install went perfect, no issues at all. even got it all back together just as it started to thunder and pour down rain.

I actually removed my pioneer double din out of a 2011 WRX and it plugged right into my 2013 Base. All the audio seems to work with no issue as does illumination.

did you ground 15? i made sure i moved one of the rear speaker pins to the 15 slot then grounded it with the radio ground.

What brand head unit are you running?

i had to do the manual programming steps and that worked for all buttons.

I had the same experience with Metra when i told the guy that the wiring harness had changed. He was rude and basically told me I didn't know what I was talking about. I ended up cursing him the f*** out and returning the Axxess to Amazon.

from the metra harness i got from crutchfield with my stereo, there is nothing wrong with that harness and the 2013 base vehicle harness matching. they basically plugged right up and function correctly. the only pins i removed were the rear speakers since i do not have those and used them for the axxess steering wheel control as mentioned earlier in this thread. i also got my axxess from amazon, wired it according to the diagram, did the manual programming, and all buttons work perfectly.

I just ran into the same problem as the OP with my Alpine head unit install this weekend. I had to rearrange the pins as previously suggested to make my Metra wire harness work. I'm not sure where that connector diagram previously posted came from but my vehicle side harness, and the service manual I was using, didn't have pin 18. Fair warning to all out there, Amazon is still selling bum connectors.

my nismo '13 install had no issues other than those dang car side wires for the car side harness being so damn small for tapping when connecting the ASWC. i do have the bose system though

It's not amazon's fault bud, the pins are different in your Z than others. This needs to be addressed by metra not amazon.

I wasn't implying that it was Amazon's fault, merely that they're selling the harnesses that aren't specifically labeled or flagged for incompatibility with some 370z models.

Part of the way through installing a Kenwood into my 2014 base Z. Can someone confirm that this looks right as far as moving the pins around & getting the ASWC-1 wires in the correct place. I assume pin 8 isn't used? Also, for the people who have successfully moved these pins, what are you using the get them out of the harness? I've tried two eyeglass screwdrivers, multiple sewing needles, a paper clip; nothing seems to work.
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Using a tiny screwdriver helps but it was mostly force that got mine out. One or two had bent retainers when they came out but you can carefully bend them back and they should be OK. The best way is a proprietary pin remover specific to that type of connector but I have no idea on the details for that. You could also get a second connector and cut it up for the pins.

if you look in the front of the connectorthere is a tiny rectangular slot above each wire make sure when you shove the paper clip in to the back to release the plastic tab that you can see the end of the paper clip in that slot then slide the wire and paper clip out together. that or take it to radio shack and get them to find you a depinner that fits

I have a friend whose dad is a dentist. He hooked me up with a couple dental instruments that were broken on one end & of no more use to him. Using those to poke at the holes in the connector & a healthy dose of brute force, the pins came out. Got everything hooked up last night, but the ASWC-1 was giving me fits. Came in after work this afternoon and finally got the steering wheel controls working after about 45 minutes of fiddling. Everything's working perfectly now! :happydance:
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I tried with a paper clip today and it didn't work. I had a kit of sewing needles from a friend and took a needle that did fit and poked it in with a pair of pliers. Once in I was able to tug on the wire and the pin came out.

I have a 2013 base (got it in sept 2012) and the harness looks like the old 370z