Need help picking speakers

RonRizz

Well known by anyone that is serious about the presence of their soundstage. Rear fill speakers went out of vogue many years ago with the audiophile crowd. Late 80's and early 90's at SQ competitions, IASCA actually used to score you on rear fill, but did away with that.
It's really common sense. You are trying to reproduce the music to mimic a concert, or live recording where you are sitting in front of center stage. How many concerts have you been to that had speakers behind the listener?? There are those that like to have that rear fill, however, and to each their own, I say. I still have customers that MUST have speakers in the rear, and I gladly oblige them, and do not try to persuade them otherwise.
I kind of relate it to this funny story.....My Fiancee ate canned corn all her life, believe it or not, Never ate fresh corn. The first time I made corn on the cob for her, she hated it. It just didn't taste "right" to her. To this day, she still prefers the canned corn She grew up eating it that way, so to her corn is supposed to taste like that. We now have to make 2 different types of corn with dinner!!!!

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Huck

As for a budget I would like to spend no more than $100, hence why I listed mostly $30-$50 speakers. I'm not really going to be able to hear them really well, so there's no sense in going for some SQ speakers.

Like i said, I've heard all the discussion. Ack and forth on the soundstage, and it makes sense, but I like to be enveloped by the music. Even at a concert or something, unless you have a room with impossibly perfect acoustics you're still getting some reverb and bounce-around to the sides and behind you. I should know, I'm a musician lol.

That's an awesome canned corn story too Thanks for all the suggestions guys.


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bigaudiofanat

If your on a budget the polk db's is a favorite with z owners. Alpine type R is another great set for budget as well as infinity if you want them bright.

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Tazicon

I went with Bostons in the Z (can't remember the model). They really sound good with the Pioneer head unit and I didn't even think about sticking speakers in the rear panels.

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H2O_Doc

I just added the DXi 350s (on sale at crutchfield) to the rear of my 370Z. I in no way qualify as an audiophile, but I do like to listen to music in the car (the only place where I can be left alone). I am IMMENSELY pleased with the addition of the rear Polks and would do it again in a minute. I have components in the front and 100w RMS going to each of the four channels in the event it matters. I also have a 12" sub, which is overkill but I had one on hand.

Huck

H2O, are you saying you have 100w going to the 3.5" rears as well? I thought they were rated for maybe 10-30w rms.


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H2O_Doc

Sorry, that is what the amp can do. It is dialed back on the 3.5s.

Huck

Oh ok lol, I was gonna be impressed that they could handle that amount


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bigaudiofanat

They can barely handle 30 watts, make sure you install a bass blocker if you decide on rear speakers otherwise they will blow. Polk includes them.

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Huck

True that, the general consensus seems to be 600khz is a good level to start blocking.


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RonRizz

IMHO thats a little too high to cut. you're gonna lose alot of lower midrange, and they will probably sound "tinny". The freq. response of your speakers should be your starting point for considering where to cut, and pretty much any full range speaker will play well below 600hz You will probably be looking at a response of around 125hz with a 3 1/2"..... Your midrange frequencies start at 250hz, which is where I would recommend cutting them.
By the way, Woofersect has a set of Hertz 3 1/2"s for $99 FYI

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H2O_Doc

The Polks come with 200hz base blockers and most reviews I have read have said the worked well.

In my 4Runner, I have 3.5" Kappas and went with a higher frequency blocker. In that vehicle, I have coaxials in the door, not components, and the 3.5s are in the dash. Sounds great to my pedestrian ear.

RonRizz

And that, Sir, is the most important thing.

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H2O_Doc

Sound deadening made a huge difference. I know some purists would say that the sound is part of the experience, but the popcorn popper sound of the slightest dirt molecule coming off the tires into the wheel well was a little much. If I want to hear the exhaust its windows down and my ears are close enough to the pipes that I get every decibel I need.

I did omit addressing the hatch. Big oversight considering the subwoofer. It is the only place I get a funk induced rattle.

Huck

Hahaha I have the hatch done up to the seats, as well as my door panels done. I'm right there with you, it made it sound 10X better.


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