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Tomboy 01-28-2012 11:15 PM

Pioneer Install not so good...Questions?
 
My husband got things up and running on a new install. HU is a Pioneer Z130BT with a new Pioneer XM module and Axxess steering wheel control and Kenwood backup camera. No problems with the car itself after battery hooked back up. Backup camera great when in reverse gear. The Pioneer seems to have a constant hissing noise coming from the front dash speakers all the time when the unit is on or even off in acc mode. When you cut the power to the car totally, it stops. Also sounds like a faint fan noise running behind the HU. My A/C heat unit is not even back in place yet. When using the touchscreen, seems like allot of high pitched noise inbetween picking things. Allot of high pitch noise between picking radio stations. Cannot get the Axxess to work at all even though have a solid red light showing. We didnot change the amp or speakers at all. Have pretty good sound despite all the extra noise. A little disappointed as my Pioneer install of a X920BT in the Corvette went fine and sounds great. It did have a new amp and speakers put in though. The ground wires are all grounded seperately and installed right on the new HU. Any past experiences or feed back would be great. Hoping that the HU is ok with this car and just not able to be compatible.

370Zsteve 01-28-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomboy (Post 1514472)
My husband got things up and running on a new install. HU is a Pioneer Z130BT with a new Pioneer XM module and Axxess steering wheel control and Kenwood backup camera. No problems with the car itself after battery hooked back up. Backup camera great when in reverse gear. The Pioneer seems to have a constant hissing noise coming from the front dash speakers all the time when the unit is on or even off in acc mode. When you cut the power to the car totally, it stops. Also sounds like a faint fan noise running behind the HU. My A/C heat unit is not even back in place yet. When using the touchscreen, seems like allot of high pitched noise inbetween picking things. Allot of high pitch noise between picking radio stations. Cannot get the Axxess to work at all even though have a solid red light showing. We didnot change the amp or speakers at all. Have pretty good sound despite all the extra noise. A little disappointed as my Pioneer install of a X920BT in the Corvette went fine and sounds great. It did have a new amp and speakers put in though. The ground wires are all grounded seperately and installed right on the new HU. Any past experiences or feed back would be great. Hoping that the HU is ok with this car and just not able to be compatible.

Does the noise change frequency depending on RPM?

Tomboy 01-28-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 1514477)
Does the noise change frequency depending on RPM?

We actually have not started the car yet. Only using the key on and acc so far for the install. I will start it tomorrow to see the if the noise changes with the RPMs.It seems pretty consistant sounding in the background even changing the volume up or down.

Compdoc777 01-28-2012 11:52 PM

You need to make sur you plugged in you ac controls. That will cause the fan to come on if it is unplugged. I had that strang hissing. If you get line noise from running the car there is something not grounded correctly.

bigaudiofanat 01-29-2012 10:31 AM

My money is on bad ground, where did he ground the black wire of the head unit?

I use one of the 4 bolts around the shift knob under the panel itself.

If he does not have a good ground your going to have noise. Also is the installed in a z with bose?

Tomboy 01-29-2012 10:47 AM

Got the steering wheel Axxess unit working now by unhooked Bluetooth module. Still have background noise through front speakers. We have a good ground, has been checked. Question now is, we have a Metra Nissan vehicle antenna adapter cable. Where should the blue wire on this adapter cable be connected or not connected. We currently have it connected to the blue white stripe off the back of the radio, which also kicks the bose amp. Help please...

MattP725 01-29-2012 01:20 PM

Tomboy would you mind telling me what two wires u hooked the access signal to?

bigaudiofanat 01-29-2012 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomboy (Post 1514755)
Got the steering wheel Axxess unit working now by unhooked Bluetooth module. Still have background noise through front speakers. We have a good ground, has been checked. Question now is, we have a Metra Nissan vehicle antenna adapter cable. Where should the blue wire on this adapter cable be connected or not connected. We currently have it connected to the blue white stripe off the back of the radio, which also kicks the bose amp. Help please...

Even if you have a good ground changing the location of your ground can help, if you have the bose system I have seen bose systems have noise when adding a head unit to the stock system.

Make sure you have the correct harness that is using the rca's and not a standard wiring harness.

As for the blue wires, as long as the amp wake up wire is connected and is powering up the amp, that would not be an issue. You can have both the amp wake up wire and the antenna adapter blue wire connected to the blue wire of the head units wiring harness "or blue and white".

Tomboy 01-29-2012 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MattP725 (Post 1514945)
Tomboy would you mind telling me what two wires u hooked the access signal to?

Husband left for job out of town today. Do you have the 130BT with the Bose amp and speakers? Will get the answer to you when I talk with him. Allot of noise still like something is running on the acc mode even though the radio is OFF. Sounds like a power noise out of dash speakers. We didnot use the rca cables.

Tomboy 01-29-2012 06:18 PM

Have pictures of the back before installed. Being that we are changing the HU but keeping the Bose Amp and speakers, we cannot use the RCA application for hook up...? Got the blue wire right now. One question...We also have added a new Pioneer XM to the HU. Are you supposed to unhook the OEM XM harness then? We think we may have two hooked up.

Laurie

http://images60.fotki.com/v361/photo...1240070-vi.jpg

http://images60.fotki.com/v224/photo...1230053-vi.jpg

MattP725 01-29-2012 07:14 PM

You are using the wrong harness... don't attempt to use it again or you could damage the speakers. I sent you the link to the right one in the other thread. You will use the RCAs for front and rear not the typical wires.

For the XM you will need to purchase Pioneers brain. Costs about $100 and will work with the factory antenna.

bigaudiofanat 01-29-2012 08:24 PM

Matt is correct like this thread states
http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/4...bout-bose.html


You need this harness!!!!!
Receiver Wire Harness For select 2007-up Nissan and Subaru vehicles at Crutchfield.com

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchf...0707553-F.jpeg

Tomboy 01-29-2012 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1515664)

Thank you sooo much for the info. I will get the harness ordered. Should I unhook the stock XM unit's harness if still hooked up. We did not take it or the bluetooth module out but did unhook that.

MattP725 01-30-2012 06:36 AM

You can take the XM out it won't hurt anything or provide any benefit for that matter either.

kenchan 01-30-2012 03:18 PM

tomboy- not sure if it's much help but for encouragement, i installed a pioneer AVH4100DVD in my G35C a while back which has the factory Bose stereo. using the 4v preamp-outs via a very similar RCA connector harness im driving the Bose amp with no noise what so ever. :)

GL with the rest of the intall.

Tomboy 01-30-2012 07:21 PM

Got the harness ordered and be here Wed. Thanks so much! Now the harness on the right, picture above, with all the RCA type cables, we are using the brown for the Kenwood rearview camera. Using the yellow,green, black for the parking brake bypass for the DVD and to ground. Question..can you cut off all the unused RCA cables not being used? Also help on the overall wiring would be great if anything is wrong. If anyone has any pics of their wiring on the back, it would be great. Things we are installing are the 130BT, Axxess Steering, Pioneer XM, and Kenwood backup camera. From looking at the above pic, please let me know including the new harness coming in. Very much appreciate help to finish...right.
Laurie

bigaudiofanat 01-30-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tomboy (Post 1517459)
Got the harness ordered and be here Wed. Thanks so much! Now the harness on the right, picture above, with all the RCA type cables, we are using the brown for the Kenwood rearview camera. Using the yellow,green, black for the parking brake bypass for the DVD and to ground. Question..can you cut off all the unused RCA cables not being used? Also help on the overall wiring would be great if anything is wrong. If anyone has any pics of their wiring on the back, it would be great. Things we are installing are the 130BT, Axxess Steering, Pioneer XM, and Kenwood backup camera. From looking at the above pic, please let me know including the new harness coming in. Very much appreciate help to finish...right.
Laurie

You are going to use all the rca's, unless your talking about the ones on the head unit, either case I would not recommend it.

MattP725 01-30-2012 07:35 PM

In addition the XM unit and the camera will not plug into the harness at all (with the exception of the power lead being able to be wired to the yellow). Otherwise those two plug into the back of the head unit (or pigtail that came from Pioneer).

Tomboy 01-30-2012 07:46 PM

I know you guys will be mad at me, but please give us a rundown of the general hook up. Here is the back of the HU. Just a quick list of what goes where would be fantastic. Do I have enough hook ups for the 4 RCA connectors on the new harness? My husband has done many stereos but this one is throwing us. Thanks thanks!!
Laurie

http://images54.fotki.com/v104/photo...0o_back-vi.jpg

MattP725 01-30-2012 07:49 PM

You are looking at the wrong place... they connect to the female RCAs on this picture... You should def have enough... you only use 2 sets (front and rear). Not trying to be a jerk but why don't you just have an installer do it for you if you are confused? It is a nice head unit (IMO) so I'd hate to see it be wired incorrectly and broken. At the very least you could let them do the wiring then install the unit yourself. Heck you could probably mail the harness to someone on the board to get that part taken care of.

http://images60.fotki.com/v224/photo...1230053-vi.jpg

bigaudiofanat 01-30-2012 08:23 PM

Matt, at one day over 9 years ago I had no idea how to install a head unit. But I took my time and learned. And now I do so many installs and answer so many questions it is not funny. Anyone can do a install if they have the will and the patience.

Plasmite 05-16-2014 08:54 AM

Ok so recently I pulled my console apart to fix issues I had with dealership wiring and to place my bluetooth mic from my AVIC-X140BH in the stock location. I also went out and got the proper harness for this HU. The dealership had gotten the regular harness and wired it all up, and spliced RCA's into it to make it work. The installer who put in my rear view camera used 30ft of RCA to get the one plug to my head unit. Along with a power cable. Since they went around the outside of the car instead of going direct through the console, they needed all that length. I shortened it.

The camera, speakers and everything works. I had an issue with the connector plug to my iPod that I placed inside the console bucket, resolved that when I noticed the plug where the USB is was loose. Used some tape and good to go.

Now for my issue.... Music all plays fine, but when there is music only coming out from the left side, it's quiet. The music going to that side isn't quiet, just when the song has an instrument playing on that side, it will be really low in comparison to the rest of the music.

Did I plug a RCA cable in wrong? Or did my dealership have it wired up weird and I have to look at using that old harness again?

Plasmite 05-16-2014 08:57 AM

Just to clarify....

I went into my HU settings and played with the faders/balance. Everything seems to be working properly. I cannot play with the settings in my iPod while connected because I supposidly need an app. I didn't need one before....I am using an older model iPod. Can't really remember how old

Plasmite 05-18-2014 11:14 PM

Turns out the adapter for the iPod is total crap.

kenchan 05-22-2014 02:59 PM

.. glad we could help. :ugh:

Plasmite 05-22-2014 03:30 PM

:icon17:

Took too long. Do it MYSELF :p

kenchan 05-22-2014 03:33 PM

GJ :tup:


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