Audio setup... need advice

Astrosfan · 12-05-2011, 10:45 PM

Im having trouble deciding which direction to go with my audio setup.

Im having a hard time deciding on which sub/amp combo will work best for me. i do listen to alot of rap and rock but I dont want people to hear me 3 streets over, those days are done for me.

Im getting a pioneer avic-x930bt very soon and currently have polk db6501s.
Ive been considering making a spare tire box out of mdf and either using a 8" or shallow 10" sub. If I make the box, i will make a DIY for it and take lots of pics.

Im having a hard time deciding on which sub/amp combo will work best for me. i do listen to alot of rap and rock but I dont want people to hear me 3 streets over, those days are done for me.

Heres what ive come up with so far. Please let me know if you have any suggestions and if you know of anything better.

I havent heard any of these personally, so im not sure what to expect from each of these.

Alpine Type r 8" sub, either 2 or 4 ohm
Alpine SWR-843D Component Car Subwoofers at Onlinecarstereo.com
Alpine SWR-823D Component Car Subwoofers at Onlinecarstereo.com

JL Audio 8w3
JL Audio 8W3v3-4 Component Car Subwoofers at Onlinecarstereo.com

Image Dynamics 8" ID V3, either 2 or 4 ohm
WoofersEtc.com - ID8 V3 D2 - Image Dynamics 8" ID V3 2 Ohm Subwoofer
WoofersEtc.com - ID8 V3 D4 - Image Dynamics 8" ID V3 4 Ohm Subwoofer

Kenwood Excelon shallow 10"
Kenwood Excelon KFC-XW1000F Component Car Subwoofers at Onlinecarstereo.com

If i wanted a cheaper option, i was considering amping the sub, this looks interesting

Rockford Fosgate Monoblock 924 Watt Punch Series Boosted Rail Amplifier
WoofersEtc.com - PBR300X1 - Rockford Fosgate Monoblock 924 Watt Punch Series Boosted Rail Amplifier

or if i ampd my components.......

Alpine MRP-M500
WoofersEtc.com - MRP-M500 - Alpine Mono 500W subwoofer amplifier

Arc KAR 400.4
WoofersEtc.com - KAR 400.4 - ARC Audio 4 Channel 400 Watt Amplifier

JL Audio jx360/4
WoofersEtc.com - JX360/4 - JL Audio 4-Channel 360 Watts Class AB JX Series Full Range Car Amplifier

Arc Audio XXD 4080
WoofersEtc.com - XXD 4080 - ARC Audio 4 Channel 480W Class D Amplifier

Rockford Fosgate p400
WoofersEtc.com - P400-4 - Rockford Fosgate Punch 4 Ch 400 Watt Amplifier

any suggestions would really help. I think im getting started on the box in the next few days, im looking to do this.... 10" sub in spare tire! ..... with a look a little more like this(but simpler) My Custom Build: Focal, Stereo Integrity, Arc, Zapco, Alpine, etc!

NickBaragona · 12-05-2011, 10:53 PM

I went with a Rockford Fosgate P2D2 10" sub powered by a 300watt RockFord Fosgate amp (can't remember the exact model). It's definitely loud enough for me, just need to find a way to stop the trunk from rattling.

bigaudiofanat · 12-05-2011, 11:20 PM

ID and alpine combo I would go with.

eastwest2300 · 12-06-2011, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaragona

I went with a Rockford Fosgate P2D2 10" sub powered by a 300watt RockFord Fosgate amp (can't remember the exact model). It's definitely loud enough for me, just need to find a way to stop the trunk from rattling.

Sound proof the trunk with dynamat extreme, it should take care of your rattle in the trunk.

NickBaragona · 12-06-2011, 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Sound proof the trunk with dynamat extreme, it should take care of your rattle in the trunk.

Thanks I'll give that a shot! I noticed you're from the same area. Are you putting your Z away for the winter anytime soon? The weather has been pretty good for this time of the year...

Astrosfan · 12-06-2011, 10:47 AM

Are the Polk db6501s going to see that much of a difference if they are amp'd?

Also, If i went with the IDs is it possible to get the speaker to 1 ohm? If so, i could use the fosgate amp @ 300watts rms.....

bigaudiofanat · 12-06-2011, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astrosfan

Are the Polk db6501s going to see that much of a difference if they are amp'd?

Also, If i went with the IDs is it possible to get the speaker to 1 ohm? If so, i could use the fosgate amp @ 300watts rms.....

I would say yes you could as long as you wire them correct check out the12volt.com for sub wiring info.

eastwest2300 · 12-06-2011, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickBaragona

Thanks I'll give that a shot! I noticed you're from the same area. Are you putting your Z away for the winter anytime soon? The weather has been pretty good for this time of the year...

Dude, actually I only drive my Z maybe once every couple weeks, the roads are horrible around here, I dont like tearing it up around here, and people dont know how to drive.. LOL..

I have a hooked up Eclipse that gets a lot of looks, so I like driving both.

eastwest2300 · 12-06-2011, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I would say yes you could as long as you wire them correct check out the12volt.com for sub wiring info.

I looove that website, you can find wiring schematics for lots of vehicles, and its very useful for doing car alarms.

vividracing · 12-06-2011, 04:37 PM

the12volt is awesome, as is bcae1.com

eastwest2300 · 12-06-2011, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

the12volt is awesome, as is bcae1.com

I'll have to check out bcae1.com

37Z · 12-06-2011, 07:41 PM

I purchased a 8" Alpine SWR-843-D sub (4-ohm version) from SubElectronic for less than $100 shipped. I plan to install it in my custome sub box located in the rear hatch area where the foam piece is located in front of the space tire area.

Although I have not installed it as yet, it has received a lot of attention on the DIYMA web site.

I went with a HERTZ HDP-5 amp from Wicked CAS. No issues as yet and has no unwanted noise.

butdamnbrian · 12-07-2011, 05:55 PM

a few thoughts...

-it could be worth doing some research into which amps need more air circulation and which amps run cooler and function reliably in enclosed spaces. if you're looking to mount the amps in the same space as mine (which is a common place for amps in the z), heat could be an issue. to head off any problems there, my build had a fan mounted with the amps to cool the setup during use. with that said, the arc amps i used never got too hot. i'd recommend them.

-an in-spare sub box won't provide much by way of box volume, but it was plenty space for me. i was lucky to get a stereo integrity bm mk3 slim 12'' that was perfect for the small enclosure space. it provided more than enough bass in my opinion.

-i really liked the arc audio xdi series amplifiers. they offer great performance at a decent price point and the perfect size for the z. i had a 600.1 powering front components, and the 1000.1 powering the sub. really sweet. check those out:

Arc Audio - XDi Amplifiers

finally... surf/search around on diymobileaudio.com. you can find everything you need by way of product reviews, example setups, user experiences, sub/amp combo reviews, etc. you'll get tons more information quickly over there.

gluck with the build, man.

12-05-2011, 10:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 15	Audio setup... need advice Im having trouble deciding which direction to go with my audio setup. Im having a hard time deciding on which sub/amp combo will work best for me. i do listen to alot of rap and rock but I dont want people to hear me 3 streets over, those days are done for me. Im getting a pioneer avic-x930bt very soon and currently have polk db6501s. Ive been considering making a spare tire box out of mdf and either using a 8" or shallow 10" sub. If I make the box, i will make a DIY for it and take lots of pics. Im having a hard time deciding on which sub/amp combo will work best for me. i do listen to alot of rap and rock but I dont want people to hear me 3 streets over, those days are done for me. Heres what ive come up with so far. Please let me know if you have any suggestions and if you know of anything better. I havent heard any of these personally, so im not sure what to expect from each of these. Alpine Type r 8" sub, either 2 or 4 ohm Alpine SWR-843D Component Car Subwoofers at Onlinecarstereo.com Alpine SWR-823D Component Car Subwoofers at Onlinecarstereo.com JL Audio 8w3 JL Audio 8W3v3-4 Component Car Subwoofers at Onlinecarstereo.com Image Dynamics 8" ID V3, either 2 or 4 ohm WoofersEtc.com - ID8 V3 D2 - Image Dynamics 8" ID V3 2 Ohm Subwoofer WoofersEtc.com - ID8 V3 D4 - Image Dynamics 8" ID V3 4 Ohm Subwoofer Kenwood Excelon shallow 10" Kenwood Excelon KFC-XW1000F Component Car Subwoofers at Onlinecarstereo.com If i wanted a cheaper option, i was considering amping the sub, this looks interesting Rockford Fosgate Monoblock 924 Watt Punch Series Boosted Rail Amplifier WoofersEtc.com - PBR300X1 - Rockford Fosgate Monoblock 924 Watt Punch Series Boosted Rail Amplifier or if i ampd my components....... Alpine MRP-M500 WoofersEtc.com - MRP-M500 - Alpine Mono 500W subwoofer amplifier Arc KAR 400.4 WoofersEtc.com - KAR 400.4 - ARC Audio 4 Channel 400 Watt Amplifier JL Audio jx360/4 WoofersEtc.com - JX360/4 - JL Audio 4-Channel 360 Watts Class AB JX Series Full Range Car Amplifier Arc Audio XXD 4080 WoofersEtc.com - XXD 4080 - ARC Audio 4 Channel 480W Class D Amplifier Rockford Fosgate p400 WoofersEtc.com - P400-4 - Rockford Fosgate Punch 4 Ch 400 Watt Amplifier any suggestions would really help. I think im getting started on the box in the next few days, im looking to do this.... 10" sub in spare tire! ..... with a look a little more like this(but simpler) My Custom Build: Focal, Stereo Integrity, Arc, Zapco, Alpine, etc!

12-05-2011, 11:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	ID and alpine combo I would go with. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

12-06-2011, 04:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 38 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	the12volt is awesome, as is bcae1.com __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

12-06-2011, 07:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
37Z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 476 Drives: 370Z MB 6M -sold Rep Power: 263	Sub I purchased a 8" Alpine SWR-843-D sub (4-ohm version) from SubElectronic for less than $100 shipped. I plan to install it in my custome sub box located in the rear hatch area where the foam piece is located in front of the space tire area. Although I have not installed it as yet, it has received a lot of attention on the DIYMA web site. I went with a HERTZ HDP-5 amp from Wicked CAS. No issues as yet and has no unwanted noise.

12-07-2011, 05:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
butdamnbrian Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: bay area, ca Posts: 254 Drives: the ladies wild Rep Power: 15	a few thoughts... -it could be worth doing some research into which amps need more air circulation and which amps run cooler and function reliably in enclosed spaces. if you're looking to mount the amps in the same space as mine (which is a common place for amps in the z), heat could be an issue. to head off any problems there, my build had a fan mounted with the amps to cool the setup during use. with that said, the arc amps i used never got too hot. i'd recommend them. -an in-spare sub box won't provide much by way of box volume, but it was plenty space for me. i was lucky to get a stereo integrity bm mk3 slim 12'' that was perfect for the small enclosure space. it provided more than enough bass in my opinion. -i really liked the arc audio xdi series amplifiers. they offer great performance at a decent price point and the perfect size for the z. i had a 600.1 powering front components, and the 1000.1 powering the sub. really sweet. check those out: Arc Audio - XDi Amplifiers finally... surf/search around on diymobileaudio.com. you can find everything you need by way of product reviews, example setups, user experiences, sub/amp combo reviews, etc. you'll get tons more information quickly over there. gluck with the build, man. __________________ Ex-Build:Alpine W910•Focal Polyglass 165 V30 6.5" Components•Stereo Integrity BM mk. 3•Zapco DSP6-SL•Arc Audio XDi Amps•Nissan Livina Rear Camera•Axxess•Spare Retained•

12-05-2011, 10:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
NickBaragona Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 360 Drives: 40th 370Z Rep Power: 14	I went with a Rockford Fosgate P2D2 10" sub powered by a 300watt RockFord Fosgate amp (can't remember the exact model). It's definitely loud enough for me, just need to find a way to stop the trunk from rattling.

12-06-2011, 10:47 AM	#6 (permalink)
Astrosfan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: houston, TX Posts: 427 Drives: 09 370z PG Sport Rep Power: 15	Are the Polk db6501s going to see that much of a difference if they are amp'd? Also, If i went with the IDs is it possible to get the speaker to 1 ohm? If so, i could use the fosgate amp @ 300watts rms.....

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