Pioneer NAV Died On ME.

WICKED_GRIN · 09-28-2011, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST

And i've had the oposite, every Pioneer i've run has last for years, the oldest i still have working is about 10 years old now. the one i use in my toy truck is about 7 years old. Alpines for me a have normally been crap, starting in the mid 90's, i had one get sent in to get fixed, it had to go back to Alpine, so i bought another alpine to use while it was gone, that one died before my other one was back from getting fixed...how ever i'm on about Alpine number 5 and it's been good, the first one i've had last more then about 6 month.
Its all a matter of luck i think with HU's the main brands are all good, for the most part, it comes down to features and user preferance i think.

^^^ agree………being forced to take statistics and probability in college (required course), I know there is a small, hopefully a very very small chance for failure in ANY manufactured product! Maybe “someone” who has bad luck with one particular product (Pioneer) is just …………someone who is unlucky!!

kenchan · 09-28-2011, 01:58 PM

the biggest factor in Big's case is that HE installed the pioneers for his customers and they all died.

kidding big.

(or am i?

)

pioneers are great, imho. i'd get another one down the road.

WICKED_GRIN · 09-28-2011, 02:17 PM

^^^ Exactly………….I was thinking the same thing!!! lol

WICKED_GRIN · 09-28-2011, 02:21 PM

^^^ Actually………..it does make good business sense……….way to go big

HKYStormFront · 09-28-2011, 03:41 PM

maybe alpines have a larger profit margin?

i keed, i keed

WICKED_GRIN · 09-29-2011, 02:12 PM

^^^ That’s a “BIG” possibility! I just had to say that………….the window was wide open!

bigaudiofanat · 09-29-2011, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

the biggest factor in Big's case is that HE installed the pioneers for his customers and they all died.

kidding big.

(or am i?

)

pioneers are great, imho. i'd get another one down the road.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

^^^ Exactly………….I was thinking the same thing!!! lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

^^^ Actually………..it does make good business sense……….way to go big

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

^^^ That’s a “BIG” possibility! I just had to say that………….the window was wide open!

Hey I just know that I am not the only person who has had trouble with pioneer the OP'er for example. There is a huge thread on pioneer being junk on caraudio.com Last time I looked it was over 20 pages. But hey what do they know there only previous owners of pioneer products.

kenchan · 09-29-2011, 02:49 PM

yah wat do they know big, wat do they know. lol

ive owned kenwood, alpine, sony, jvc, clarion, and pioneer (i think im missing a few brands..). none of them broke down on me.

HKYStormFront · 09-29-2011, 03:15 PM

i'm just messin' with you bud. i think all of the major manufacturers make quality products (alpine, pioneer, kenwood, sony, etc). from that point, when i recommend a head unit to someone it depends on if they have any specific requirements for the unit that others don't and/or the interface

WICKED_GRIN · 09-29-2011, 04:35 PM

^^^ I totally agree………..but I still think the newer Alpines could be a little better!

WICKED_GRIN · 10-01-2011, 10:20 AM

Does anyone have any experience with Pioneer Stage 4? Specifically the DEX-P99RS?

WICKED_GRIN · 10-01-2011, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Hey I just know that I am not the only person who has had trouble with pioneer the OP'er for example. There is a huge thread on pioneer being junk on caraudio.com Last time I looked it was over 20 pages. But hey what do they know there only previous owners of pioneer products.

Can’t seem to find those 20+ pages? Maybe you should post the link so we can see who posted!! Anyone we know?? lol

jpritche · 10-01-2011, 11:16 AM

to the OP: I could have swore i posted this up a few days ago, but anyway. There is a forum called AVIC411.com there is a lot of helpful tips there.

I had an avic f900bt and I made my own themes and what not for it, it was a great headunit for me. Anyway, I had the same problem at one point while tweaking some things. It would reset over and over after the "initial boot"

What you need to do, to reset the firmware is to get it into what is called "test mode" you will need a sd card to do this. Just look on avic411 and look for testmode and how to install new/reset to original firmware. This should fix you up. It was a great forum that I used to be a part of for a long time. Hope this helps!

bigaudiofanat · 10-01-2011, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

Does anyone have any experience with Pioneer Stage 4? Specifically the DEX-P99RS?

Yes I have use the 2 way components and the sub. There pretty good

09-28-2011, 03:41 PM	#20 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	maybe alpines have a larger profit margin? i keed, i keed __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

09-29-2011, 03:15 PM	#24 (permalink)
HKYStormFront A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Greer, SC Posts: 14,954 Drives: 06 Frontier SE 6spd Rep Power: 52	i'm just messin' with you bud. i think all of the major manufacturers make quality products (alpine, pioneer, kenwood, sony, etc). from that point, when i recommend a head unit to someone it depends on if they have any specific requirements for the unit that others don't and/or the interface __________________ Patrick // 06 Frontier 6spd Nismosis // Mods: Uprev Tuned @ Z1 Motorsports: 257whp & 292 ft lbs 09 Pontiac G8 GXP // M6 // Sunroof // Tint... For now

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	the biggest factor in Big's case is that HE installed the pioneers for his customers and they all died. kidding big. (or am i? ) pioneers are great, imho. i'd get another one down the road.

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WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 15	^^^ Exactly………….I was thinking the same thing!!! lol

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WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 15	^^^ That’s a “BIG” possibility! I just had to say that………….the window was wide open!

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	yah wat do they know big, wat do they know. lol ive owned kenwood, alpine, sony, jvc, clarion, and pioneer (i think im missing a few brands..). none of them broke down on me.

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WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 15	^^^ I totally agree………..but I still think the newer Alpines could be a little better!

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WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 15	Does anyone have any experience with Pioneer Stage 4? Specifically the DEX-P99RS?

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jpritche A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Cartersville, Ga Age: 32 Posts: 2,570 Drives: '15 RR, '14 IS250 Rep Power: 31	to the OP: I could have swore i posted this up a few days ago, but anyway. There is a forum called AVIC411.com there is a lot of helpful tips there. I had an avic f900bt and I made my own themes and what not for it, it was a great headunit for me. Anyway, I had the same problem at one point while tweaking some things. It would reset over and over after the "initial boot" What you need to do, to reset the firmware is to get it into what is called "test mode" you will need a sd card to do this. Just look on avic411 and look for testmode and how to install new/reset to original firmware. This should fix you up. It was a great forum that I used to be a part of for a long time. Hope this helps!