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WICKED_GRIN 09-28-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 1333742)
And i've had the oposite, every Pioneer i've run has last for years, the oldest i still have working is about 10 years old now. the one i use in my toy truck is about 7 years old. Alpines for me a have normally been crap, starting in the mid 90's, i had one get sent in to get fixed, it had to go back to Alpine, so i bought another alpine to use while it was gone, that one died before my other one was back from getting fixed...how ever i'm on about Alpine number 5 and it's been good, the first one i've had last more then about 6 month.
Its all a matter of luck i think with HU's the main brands are all good, for the most part, it comes down to features and user preferance i think.




^^^ agree………being forced to take statistics and probability in college (required course), I know there is a small, hopefully a very very small chance for failure in ANY manufactured product! Maybe “someone” who has bad luck with one particular product (Pioneer) is just …………someone who is unlucky!!

kenchan 09-28-2011 12:58 PM

the biggest factor in Big's case is that HE installed the pioneers for his customers and they all died. :D ;) kidding big. :D (or am i? :stirthepot: :icon17: )

pioneers are great, imho. i'd get another one down the road.

WICKED_GRIN 09-28-2011 01:17 PM

^^^ Exactly………….I was thinking the same thing!!! lol

WICKED_GRIN 09-28-2011 01:21 PM

^^^ Actually………..it does make good business sense……….way to go big

HKYStormFront 09-28-2011 02:41 PM

maybe alpines have a larger profit margin? :stirthepot:

i keed, i keed :happydance:

WICKED_GRIN 09-29-2011 01:12 PM

^^^ That’s a “BIG” possibility! I just had to say that………….the window was wide open!

bigaudiofanat 09-29-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1333868)
the biggest factor in Big's case is that HE installed the pioneers for his customers and they all died. :D ;) kidding big. :D (or am i? :stirthepot: :icon17: )

pioneers are great, imho. i'd get another one down the road.

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 1333922)
^^^ Exactly………….I was thinking the same thing!!! lol

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 1333931)
^^^ Actually………..it does make good business sense……….way to go big

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 1335895)
^^^ That’s a “BIG” possibility! I just had to say that………….the window was wide open!



Hey I just know that I am not the only person who has had trouble with pioneer the OP'er for example. There is a huge thread on pioneer being junk on caraudio.com Last time I looked it was over 20 pages. But hey what do they know there only previous owners of pioneer products.

kenchan 09-29-2011 01:49 PM

yah wat do they know big, wat do they know. lol :D

ive owned kenwood, alpine, sony, jvc, clarion, and pioneer (i think im missing a few brands..). none of them broke down on me.

HKYStormFront 09-29-2011 02:15 PM

i'm just messin' with you bud. i think all of the major manufacturers make quality products (alpine, pioneer, kenwood, sony, etc). from that point, when i recommend a head unit to someone it depends on if they have any specific requirements for the unit that others don't and/or the interface

WICKED_GRIN 09-29-2011 03:35 PM

^^^ I totally agree………..but I still think the newer Alpines could be a little better!

WICKED_GRIN 10-01-2011 09:20 AM

Does anyone have any experience with Pioneer Stage 4? Specifically the DEX-P99RS?

WICKED_GRIN 10-01-2011 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 1335961)
Hey I just know that I am not the only person who has had trouble with pioneer the OP'er for example. There is a huge thread on pioneer being junk on caraudio.com Last time I looked it was over 20 pages. But hey what do they know there only previous owners of pioneer products.



Can’t seem to find those 20+ pages? Maybe you should post the link so we can see who posted!! Anyone we know?? lol

jpritche 10-01-2011 10:16 AM

to the OP: I could have swore i posted this up a few days ago, but anyway. There is a forum called AVIC411.com there is a lot of helpful tips there.

I had an avic f900bt and I made my own themes and what not for it, it was a great headunit for me. Anyway, I had the same problem at one point while tweaking some things. It would reset over and over after the "initial boot"

What you need to do, to reset the firmware is to get it into what is called "test mode" you will need a sd card to do this. Just look on avic411 and look for testmode and how to install new/reset to original firmware. This should fix you up. It was a great forum that I used to be a part of for a long time. Hope this helps!

:tiphat:

bigaudiofanat 10-01-2011 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN (Post 1339395)
Does anyone have any experience with Pioneer Stage 4? Specifically the DEX-P99RS?

Yes I have use the 2 way components and the sub. There pretty good


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