Steering Wheel Control Wiring

bigaudiofanat · 08-23-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConchZ2

It's included with the kit.

47ohm is (yel/vio/blk)
150 ohm is (brn/grn/brn)

Darn I never saw them when I went to install one.

Ubunoir · 08-29-2009, 11:52 AM

Those who got it to work... did you cut the brown loop on the SWI or not? There's a conflict between the info at the top of this thread (which says to cut the loop), and the instructions at Pac-audio's web site (says not to cut the loop).

I wasn't able to get mine to work. I did NOT cut the brown loop. I'm about to go back out to the garage and check my wiring. If everything else looks good, all I can think of is to cut the loop and see if it works.

bigaudiofanat · 08-29-2009, 11:53 AM

Do not cut from what I have understood.

Ubunoir · 08-29-2009, 04:15 PM

Thanks. I got it to work. Do not cut the brown loop.

For anyone who attempted this and it didn't work, I discovered that the instructions at the top of this thread are slightly off, as were the instructions on the manufacturer's web site as of last week. As of now, they've corrected them and they worked (for me).

I thought I was loosing my mind when I read the manufacturer's instructions at their web site this morning and they were different than what I remembered reading last week. Luckily I'd printed them out last week and they are definately different. I'm not insane.

Ok, maybe a little.

Liquid_G · 09-24-2009, 03:31 PM

so the blue/yellow wire.. the instructions on pac-audio's website dont say what to do with that.. does that get hooked up to the blue/yellow wire on the kenwood plug or not?

kenchan · 09-24-2009, 04:05 PM

unless the instructions on your pac states to use otherwise, just leave it taped up. i think there were only 3 wires on my setup that i used... and 2 resistors.

and left the loop as is.

Liquid_G · 09-24-2009, 06:33 PM

actually I did find where in the instructions you have to connect that wire.. if you dont there's nothing that tells the headunit what buttons you are pressing.. also the printed instructions say that is specifically the Kenwood remote control wire.

now a different problem..

after hooking it up and programming it..when i press track up, it raises the volume, and "source" lowers the volume... volume up/down buttons work fine, as does track down..
i've got everything connected correctly and cleared/programmed that thing 5 times now... idk what the deal is..

btw i'm using pac swi-jack and kenwood dnx6140

any ideas?

Liquid_G · 09-24-2009, 08:49 PM

FIgured it out... I had the wires from pin 6 and pin 16 in the factory harness touching before the resistors..
Since the resistors both go to the white wire of the pac adaptor after the resistor i didnt think it mattered, apparently it does..

G Fo12ce · 11-05-2009, 11:44 AM

This sticky is great and really caught my attention as a new head unit is high on the upgrade list for me.

I just wanted to add something basic to this post for newbs like me. It's probably common knowledge to some advanced users but I never installed this type of thing so I wasn't well informed on it.

Not having used any PAC products before I thought SWI-"JACK" was their only steering control module or generic term. That's all everyone was talking about here. So I started searching the forums to see if it would work with the Pioneer I was looking at. After some searching here and on Crutchfield I found it's not compatible

. SWI-JACK works for JVC, Alpine, Clarion, Kenwood. What I didn't realize until recently was they make other modules for other stereos lol. Link is here:
Pac-audio.com Products | iPod Integration for your car and More by Pac-Audio - Connecting you to the future

SWI-JACK = JVC, Alpine, Clarion, Kenwood Radios
SWI-ECL2 = Eclipse Radios
SWI-PS = Pioneer, Sony (& according to Crutchfield Jenson) Radios

There's a universal and some others there too.

Link to my original post about it to consolidate the info:
Steering wheel control with Pioneer?

casper370z · 01-28-2010, 02:41 PM

Are the delays from the steering wheel input controls still an issue? I am seeing lot of people having this issue.

I would think someone could make a custom module relatively cheap as long as we know the following:

1) output current/voltage for each signal (370z base model: source, select up, select down, volume up and volume down)
2) number of input signals, input current/voltage and input signal combination(corresponding to each function) for each manufacturer

a simple circuit to accommodate above signals should be relatively easy and very responsive.

this is based on my assumption. please correct me if am wrong. i would be delighted to see something other than PAC-SWI used on the 370z. if the darn things doesn't work right then we shouldn't use it at all. i just would like to have something that i allows me to use the existing SW controls without all the nuances.

i found additional information from a different forum that may help those of us who's looking for a better solution than SWI-JACK. It'd be some work but those of us who's familiar with electronics should be able to implement this.

http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/inpu...e-control.html

update:
found additional info on building your own SWI with no delays.
http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/inpu...ol-pinout.html

TreeSemdyZee · 03-14-2010, 11:36 AM

I have a dumb question. Everyone keeps talking about connecting the resistors at pin "such-and-such", but my question is, how do you connect them? Are you tapping them into the factory wires or are you inserting them through the empty Scosche holes into the factory harness? I haven't been able to find any specific instructions, just general "connect here".

simota1 · 03-17-2010, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TreeSemdyZee

I have a dumb question. Everyone keeps talking about connecting the resistors at pin "such-and-such", but my question is, how do you connect them? Are you tapping them into the factory wires or are you inserting them through the empty Scosche holes into the factory harness? I haven't been able to find any specific instructions, just general "connect here".

yes that is the same question i was going to ask

how do you connect it?

WICKED_GRIN · 03-17-2010, 05:35 PM

^^ solder then shrink wrap

WICKED_GRIN · 03-17-2010, 05:37 PM

^^ using additional wire between the desired connection

TreeSemdyZee · 03-23-2010, 09:05 PM

OK guys, I think I screwed up on the SWI-JACK. I've got all of the resistors connected, etc. My question is on the other end of the unit. I hooked the blue/yellow wire on the SWI-JACK to the blue/yellow wire on my DNX8120. Where does the black wire with the plug go? Did I do a major screwup by cutting the "plug" off of my DNX8120?

I'm in dire need of help because I was planning on installing this on the weekend.

Thanks.

08-29-2009, 11:53 AM	#18 (permalink)
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01-28-2010, 02:41 PM	#25 (permalink)
casper370z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Atlanta Posts: 8 Drives: 09 370Z PG 6M w/ Spt Rep Power: 16	Are the delays from the steering wheel input controls still an issue? I am seeing lot of people having this issue. I would think someone could make a custom module relatively cheap as long as we know the following: 1) output current/voltage for each signal (370z base model: source, select up, select down, volume up and volume down) 2) number of input signals, input current/voltage and input signal combination(corresponding to each function) for each manufacturer a simple circuit to accommodate above signals should be relatively easy and very responsive. this is based on my assumption. please correct me if am wrong. i would be delighted to see something other than PAC-SWI used on the 370z. if the darn things doesn't work right then we shouldn't use it at all. i just would like to have something that i allows me to use the existing SW controls without all the nuances. i found additional information from a different forum that may help those of us who's looking for a better solution than SWI-JACK. It'd be some work but those of us who's familiar with electronics should be able to implement this. http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/inpu...e-control.html update: found additional info on building your own SWI with no delays. http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/inpu...ol-pinout.html Last edited by casper370z; 02-03-2010 at 03:21 PM. Reason: addtional info

03-23-2010, 09:05 PM	#30 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	Helllllpppp!!! OK guys, I think I screwed up on the SWI-JACK. I've got all of the resistors connected, etc. My question is on the other end of the unit. I hooked the blue/yellow wire on the SWI-JACK to the blue/yellow wire on my DNX8120. Where does the black wire with the plug go? Did I do a major screwup by cutting the "plug" off of my DNX8120? I'm in dire need of help because I was planning on installing this on the weekend. Thanks.

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08-29-2009, 11:52 AM	#17 (permalink)
Ubunoir Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Claymont, DE Posts: 19 Drives: '99 MX-5 & '09 370z Rep Power: 16	Those who got it to work... did you cut the brown loop on the SWI or not? There's a conflict between the info at the top of this thread (which says to cut the loop), and the instructions at Pac-audio's web site (says not to cut the loop). I wasn't able to get mine to work. I did NOT cut the brown loop. I'm about to go back out to the garage and check my wiring. If everything else looks good, all I can think of is to cut the loop and see if it works.

08-29-2009, 04:15 PM	#19 (permalink)
Ubunoir Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Claymont, DE Posts: 19 Drives: '99 MX-5 & '09 370z Rep Power: 16	Thanks. I got it to work. Do not cut the brown loop. For anyone who attempted this and it didn't work, I discovered that the instructions at the top of this thread are slightly off, as were the instructions on the manufacturer's web site as of last week. As of now, they've corrected them and they worked (for me). I thought I was loosing my mind when I read the manufacturer's instructions at their web site this morning and they were different than what I remembered reading last week. Luckily I'd printed them out last week and they are definately different. I'm not insane. Ok, maybe a little.

09-24-2009, 03:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
Liquid_G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,439 Drives: 09 370z Supercharged Rep Power: 44	so the blue/yellow wire.. the instructions on pac-audio's website dont say what to do with that.. does that get hooked up to the blue/yellow wire on the kenwood plug or not?

09-24-2009, 04:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	unless the instructions on your pac states to use otherwise, just leave it taped up. i think there were only 3 wires on my setup that i used... and 2 resistors. and left the loop as is.

09-24-2009, 06:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
Liquid_G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,439 Drives: 09 370z Supercharged Rep Power: 44	actually I did find where in the instructions you have to connect that wire.. if you dont there's nothing that tells the headunit what buttons you are pressing.. also the printed instructions say that is specifically the Kenwood remote control wire. now a different problem.. after hooking it up and programming it..when i press track up, it raises the volume, and "source" lowers the volume... volume up/down buttons work fine, as does track down.. i've got everything connected correctly and cleared/programmed that thing 5 times now... idk what the deal is.. btw i'm using pac swi-jack and kenwood dnx6140 any ideas?

09-24-2009, 08:49 PM	#23 (permalink)
Liquid_G A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Chicago Burbs Posts: 1,439 Drives: 09 370z Supercharged Rep Power: 44	FIgured it out... I had the wires from pin 6 and pin 16 in the factory harness touching before the resistors.. Since the resistors both go to the white wire of the pac adaptor after the resistor i didnt think it mattered, apparently it does..

11-05-2009, 11:44 AM	#24 (permalink)
G Fo12ce Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 996 Drives: Sold! Rep Power: 52	This sticky is great and really caught my attention as a new head unit is high on the upgrade list for me. I just wanted to add something basic to this post for newbs like me. It's probably common knowledge to some advanced users but I never installed this type of thing so I wasn't well informed on it. Not having used any PAC products before I thought SWI-"JACK" was their only steering control module or generic term. That's all everyone was talking about here. So I started searching the forums to see if it would work with the Pioneer I was looking at. After some searching here and on Crutchfield I found it's not compatible . SWI-JACK works for JVC, Alpine, Clarion, Kenwood. What I didn't realize until recently was they make other modules for other stereos lol. Link is here: Pac-audio.com Products \| iPod Integration for your car and More by Pac-Audio - Connecting you to the future SWI-JACK = JVC, Alpine, Clarion, Kenwood Radios SWI-ECL2 = Eclipse Radios SWI-PS = Pioneer, Sony (& according to Crutchfield Jenson) Radios There's a universal and some others there too. Link to my original post about it to consolidate the info: Steering wheel control with Pioneer?

03-14-2010, 11:36 AM	#26 (permalink)
TreeSemdyZee Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Kentuck-IANA Age: 60 Posts: 4,885 Drives: '09 370 & ‘14 Juke Rep Power: 27409	I have a dumb question. Everyone keeps talking about connecting the resistors at pin "such-and-such", but my question is, how do you connect them? Are you tapping them into the factory wires or are you inserting them through the empty Scosche holes into the factory harness? I haven't been able to find any specific instructions, just general "connect here".

03-17-2010, 05:35 PM	#28 (permalink)
WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 16	^^ solder then shrink wrap

03-17-2010, 05:37 PM	#29 (permalink)
WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 16	^^ using additional wire between the desired connection