The Kenwood 7140, I wanted it!

antennahead · 04-19-2009, 12:01 AM

[QUOTE=Arizona Z;58965]More Pics...

Attachment 1615

How hard was it to remove the interior light pod at the front of the headliner? Is this where you mounted the bluetooth microphone? On our cars with the factory bluetooth this is where the mic is, the 3 small slits next to the light. I like a stealth mic install, not clipped on the visor.

John

Arizona Z · 04-19-2009, 12:59 AM

Sadly, most of the sales guys are misinformed as I found out. I called Kenwood today because I could not get the SMS to function. Kenwood said that the SMS will NOT function with the iPhone. As a mater of fact, they said it functions with few phones. So far thats been my big disappoitment. But the 7140 is a very slick unit. I love it, very cool.

Arizona Z · 04-19-2009, 01:35 AM

antennahead;

To tell ya the truth, it looked pretty easy.... But, I was looking at a guy who knew what he was doing, and had all the right tools. I do know this, I'm damn glad I had him do it. The job was about 6 and half hours. With MANY ways to "Screw the Pooch" along the way. If I had attempted it, it would have taken 2 days.... And, "Sorry Pooch!"

One thing we learned, the SAT/NAV Antenna on the roof just would not do the XM Radio. As much as he tried, no go. Thats why if you look hard (Bad Pics) you can see where I (he) mounted both XM and GPS antennas next to both tweaters. It looks good. The Bose system has come alive with the 7140!

A.Z.

antennahead · 04-19-2009, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona Z

antennahead;

To tell ya the truth, it looked pretty easy.... But, I was looking at a guy who knew what he was doing, and had all the right tools. I do know this, I'm damn glad I had him do it. The job was about 6 and half hours. With MANY ways to "Screw the Pooch" along the way. If I had attempted it, it would have taken 2 days.... And, "Sorry Pooch!"

One thing we learned, the SAT/NAV Antenna on the roof just would not do the XM Radio. As much as he tried, no go. Thats why if you look hard (Bad Pics) you can see where I (he) mounted both XM and GPS antennas next to both tweaters. It looks good. The Bose system has come alive with the 7140!

A.Z.

Did you mount your bluetooth microphone in that location?

John

Arizona Z · 04-19-2009, 01:53 AM

The Blue Tooth Mic. is mounted where the stock Mic. was (The stock one can not be used) If I could turn back time, I would have tested the Mic both in the light assembly, and out. I used his phone to call my car to see how it sounded. I could tell he was on a hands free, but it sounded good. In retrospect, I do wish I would have tested the Mic both ways. The system is built up from the outside in... Cam, Mic, XM, and Steering, then the head unit. Testing the Mic. locations is an after thought.

antennahead · 04-19-2009, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona Z

The Blue Tooth Mic. is mounted where the stock Mic. was (The stock one can not be used) If I could turn back time, I would have tested the Mic both in the light assembly, and out. I used his phone to call my car to see how it sounded. I could tell he was on a hands free, but it sounded good. In retrospect, I do wish I would have tested the Mic both ways. The system is built up from the outside in... Cam, Mic, XM, and Steering, then the head unit. Testing the Mic. locations is an after thought.

So even though you didn't test it in other locations, it still sounded ok in the stock location. Do people complain when you talk hands free using the kenwoods bluetooth?

john

Arizona Z · 04-19-2009, 02:32 AM

John;

The stock Mic. sounded pretty good from what others told me. The new Mic. sounds good also. (Not like talking in an echo chamber) I'm being critical here, the 7140 has a volume adjustment for the mic. and overall sounds good. What I guess I'm trying to say is, expecting a hands free mic. to stack up to a phone mic. on a hand set is very hard. We did figure out the if you talk in a regular tone it sounded better than when you try and raise you voice. I'm going to turn the mic. volume up a little more, and talk at a normal level. But again, it sounds good now. I just still think I can tweak a little more. Hope that helps.

A.Z.

antennahead · 04-19-2009, 02:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona Z

John;

The stock Mic. sounded pretty good from what others told me. The new Mic. sounds good also. (Not like talking in an echo chamber) I'm being critical here, the 7140 has a volume adjustment for the mic. and overall sounds good. What I guess I'm trying to say is, expecting a hands free mic. to stack up to a phone mic. on a hand set is very hard. We did figure out the if you talk in a regular tone it sounded better than when you try and raise you voice. I'm going to turn the mic. volume up a little more, and talk at a normal level. But again, it sounds good now. I just still think I can tweak a little more. Hope that helps.

A.Z.

Thanks man, I'm still trying to decide what unit to put in the Z. I never use nav, so thats not too important to me, and our company Blackberrys have GPS anyway. I know I want a DVD touchscreen. A few models now put the microphone built into the face of the unit....... a nice feature, but if I go with one that has an external mic, the stealth install, like you did, is important to me..... so thanks for the heads up on the sound quality installed in the factory location!

John

arcticreaver · 04-19-2009, 03:51 AM

this is crazy. congrats and rep coming for all those pics. question - steering wheel controls, are they flawless or is there some lag? also, regarding the rear camera, did you guys just drill a hole in the back?

Arizona Z · 04-19-2009, 04:57 AM

IMG_0070.jpg
No need to drill through the body, pointing to a grommet.
IMG_0071.jpg
Had to drill through the plastic rear for the camera wire.

Steering: Volume up, Volume down, Source, Mute. Normal Operation.

roptics · 04-19-2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Yea I ordered the 5140 for my Z last week. It does the text thing for the iphone. Can't wait.

I also got the Ipod kit. Waiting on the XM and Bluetooth and backup camera till I have more funds.

Hello,

I know the 7140 comes with the SMS but I don't think the DNX5140 does. Let me because that would be great.

May not matter because it doesn't look like it works with the Iphone anyway.

NIZMOZ · 04-19-2009, 12:36 PM

I read reviews from others that it did. Looks to me like it does.

http://www.crutchfield.ca/ProductDet...0&Show=ExtInfo

Bluetooth Ready: The unit is Bluetooth compatible using the optional Kenwood KCA-BT200 Bluetooth adapter. Using KCA-BT200 and the adapter's supplied microphone you can make and answer phone calls from the Kenwood headunit as well as listen to audio files stored on a Bluetooth enabled audio player through your car audio system. You can make calls from your cell-phone using the DNX5140 by entering a phone number from the headunit's on-screen keypad, registering up to six phone number presets, from your downloaded Phonebook information or from an outgoing/incoming call list. This unit all supports Voice Recognition if your mobile-phone is Voice Recognition compatible. The headunit can support up to 35 voices and also supports Key Word Voice Recognition to select phone number category. In addition, the unit features SMS (Short Message Service) so you can send a small text message from your mobile phone using the DNX5140. When your cell-phone is called, the DNX5140 is paused and muted automatically. You are able to register up to five compatible Bluetooth cell phones but only one compatible Bluetooth cell phone can be connected when using the KCA-BT200 adapter. Visit Kenwood.com for a complete list of compatible Bluetooth enabled phones.

Arizona Z · 04-19-2009, 01:15 PM

"I read reviews from others that it did. Looks to me like it does."

NIZMOZ;

I would call 800-536-9663, thats Kenwood Tech. Support and ask about the 5140, and make sure you can SMS from it with an iPhone. Yesterday, Scott From Tech. Support told me "NOPE" on the 7140.

A.Z.

NIZMOZ · 04-19-2009, 04:15 PM

The iphone might be the problem but not with other phones. The unit at least supports it.

Oh well, not a deal breaker for me. I still love all the features this thing has.

Arizona Z · 04-19-2009, 07:53 PM

OK Guys, some parting shots of the 7140 install, it was fun!

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DVD shot

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DVD shot

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Rear CAM shot, Looks much better! I guess it's not DVD quality

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Ejecting

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Cam Location

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A BEAUTY of a morning in Arizona today!

Good Luck with your installs! (It's worth it! ;-)

04-19-2009, 04:57 AM	#25 (permalink)
Arizona Z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370Z 7AT T/S Rep Power: 16	IMG_0070.jpg No need to drill through the body, pointing to a grommet. IMG_0071.jpg Had to drill through the plastic rear for the camera wire. Steering: Volume up, Volume down, Source, Mute. Normal Operation. Last edited by Arizona Z; 04-19-2009 at 05:06 AM.

04-19-2009, 12:36 PM	#27 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	I read reviews from others that it did. Looks to me like it does. http://www.crutchfield.ca/ProductDet...0&Show=ExtInfo Bluetooth Ready: The unit is Bluetooth compatible using the optional Kenwood KCA-BT200 Bluetooth adapter. Using KCA-BT200 and the adapter's supplied microphone you can make and answer phone calls from the Kenwood headunit as well as listen to audio files stored on a Bluetooth enabled audio player through your car audio system. You can make calls from your cell-phone using the DNX5140 by entering a phone number from the headunit's on-screen keypad, registering up to six phone number presets, from your downloaded Phonebook information or from an outgoing/incoming call list. This unit all supports Voice Recognition if your mobile-phone is Voice Recognition compatible. The headunit can support up to 35 voices and also supports Key Word Voice Recognition to select phone number category. In addition, the unit features SMS (Short Message Service) so you can send a small text message from your mobile phone using the DNX5140. When your cell-phone is called, the DNX5140 is paused and muted automatically. You are able to register up to five compatible Bluetooth cell phones but only one compatible Bluetooth cell phone can be connected when using the KCA-BT200 adapter. Visit Kenwood.com for a complete list of compatible Bluetooth enabled phones. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC Last edited by NIZMOZ; 04-19-2009 at 12:38 PM.

04-19-2009, 04:15 PM	#29 (permalink)
NIZMOZ Track Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 634 Drives: 07 NISMO 350Z SA M6 Rep Power: 491	The iphone might be the problem but not with other phones. The unit at least supports it. Oh well, not a deal breaker for me. I still love all the features this thing has. __________________ SOLD: 2007 NISMO 350Z #0044 Silver Alloy New DD: 2010 Titan Pro4X CC

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04-19-2009, 12:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
antennahead A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 15,181 Drives: '07 Z4 "M" Roadster Rep Power: 57	[QUOTE=Arizona Z;58965]More Pics... Attachment 1615 How hard was it to remove the interior light pod at the front of the headliner? Is this where you mounted the bluetooth microphone? On our cars with the factory bluetooth this is where the mic is, the 3 small slits next to the light. I like a stealth mic install, not clipped on the visor. John

04-19-2009, 12:59 AM	#17 (permalink)
Arizona Z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370Z 7AT T/S Rep Power: 16	Sadly, most of the sales guys are misinformed as I found out. I called Kenwood today because I could not get the SMS to function. Kenwood said that the SMS will NOT function with the iPhone. As a mater of fact, they said it functions with few phones. So far thats been my big disappoitment. But the 7140 is a very slick unit. I love it, very cool.

04-19-2009, 01:35 AM	#18 (permalink)
Arizona Z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370Z 7AT T/S Rep Power: 16	antennahead; To tell ya the truth, it looked pretty easy.... But, I was looking at a guy who knew what he was doing, and had all the right tools. I do know this, I'm damn glad I had him do it. The job was about 6 and half hours. With MANY ways to "Screw the Pooch" along the way. If I had attempted it, it would have taken 2 days.... And, "Sorry Pooch!" One thing we learned, the SAT/NAV Antenna on the roof just would not do the XM Radio. As much as he tried, no go. Thats why if you look hard (Bad Pics) you can see where I (he) mounted both XM and GPS antennas next to both tweaters. It looks good. The Bose system has come alive with the 7140! A.Z.

04-19-2009, 01:53 AM	#20 (permalink)
Arizona Z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370Z 7AT T/S Rep Power: 16	The Blue Tooth Mic. is mounted where the stock Mic. was (The stock one can not be used) If I could turn back time, I would have tested the Mic both in the light assembly, and out. I used his phone to call my car to see how it sounded. I could tell he was on a hands free, but it sounded good. In retrospect, I do wish I would have tested the Mic both ways. The system is built up from the outside in... Cam, Mic, XM, and Steering, then the head unit. Testing the Mic. locations is an after thought.

04-19-2009, 02:32 AM	#22 (permalink)
Arizona Z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370Z 7AT T/S Rep Power: 16	John; The stock Mic. sounded pretty good from what others told me. The new Mic. sounds good also. (Not like talking in an echo chamber) I'm being critical here, the 7140 has a volume adjustment for the mic. and overall sounds good. What I guess I'm trying to say is, expecting a hands free mic. to stack up to a phone mic. on a hand set is very hard. We did figure out the if you talk in a regular tone it sounded better than when you try and raise you voice. I'm going to turn the mic. volume up a little more, and talk at a normal level. But again, it sounds good now. I just still think I can tweak a little more. Hope that helps. A.Z.

04-19-2009, 03:51 AM	#24 (permalink)
arcticreaver Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Arcadia, CA Posts: 769 Drives: 2009 Z34 7AT PG Rep Power: 924	this is crazy. congrats and rep coming for all those pics. question - steering wheel controls, are they flawless or is there some lag? also, regarding the rear camera, did you guys just drill a hole in the back?

04-19-2009, 01:15 PM	#28 (permalink)
Arizona Z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370Z 7AT T/S Rep Power: 16	"I read reviews from others that it did. Looks to me like it does." NIZMOZ; I would call 800-536-9663, thats Kenwood Tech. Support and ask about the 5140, and make sure you can SMS from it with an iPhone. Yesterday, Scott From Tech. Support told me "NOPE" on the 7140. A.Z.

04-19-2009, 07:53 PM	#30 (permalink)
Arizona Z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ. Posts: 42 Drives: 2009 370Z 7AT T/S Rep Power: 16	OK Guys, some parting shots of the 7140 install, it was fun! IMG_0158.jpg DVD shot IMG_0162.jpg DVD shot IMG_0159.jpg Rear CAM shot, Looks much better! I guess it's not DVD quality IMG_0164.jpg Ejecting IMG_0165.jpg Cam Location IMG_0173.jpg A BEAUTY of a morning in Arizona today! Good Luck with your installs! (It's worth it! ;-)