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Kilted Leo 04-11-2011 10:33 AM

Back up camera
 
I am looking for a great deal for a back up camera for my 2009 Touring with Nav. Can anyone tell me where I can look?:hello:

kenchan 04-11-2011 11:29 AM

audio section, i think.

khameleon 04-14-2011 05:16 AM

CMOS camera that fits perfectly
 
I just bought a camera that replaces the right licence plate light. It fits perfectly and is listed as a backup camera for a Nissan Livina. It fits the 370Z as if it was made for it. I purchased mine here:

Color CMOS/CCD Car Rear View Camera for Nissan Livina - Tmart.com

I found the video quite good, and will be returning my Boyo VTL 422C, as I felt it wasn't as good as this particular unit.

It is about 1/4 the price to boot!

butdamnbrian 04-14-2011 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by khameleon (Post 1053162)
I just bought a camera that replaces the right licence plate light. It fits perfectly and is listed as a backup camera for a Nissan Livina. It fits the 370Z as if it was made for it. I purchased mine here:

Color CMOS/CCD Car Rear View Camera for Nissan Livina - Tmart.com

I found the video quite good, and will be returning my Boyo VTL 422C, as I felt it wasn't as good as this particular unit.

It is about 1/4 the price to boot!

update us when you get this piece! i'd love to hear how it does for you..

RedBullRR 04-14-2011 03:28 PM

Interested in knowing more about this. I wanted to get one and this price is fkn amazing. Let me know how well this works for you and if you can put up a pic of it in action.

khameleon 04-14-2011 03:28 PM

I got it a couple of days ago, and tried it out on my TV. It looked good. I put it in my Z yesterday and it fit perfectly. I haven't got my Kenwood 9960 installed yet, but I see no reason it wouln't work fine. As I said, the video looked better than my Boyo camera I had bought earlier. This one was less grainy in low light than the Boyo. I'll update when I get the head installed.

RedBullRR 04-14-2011 04:02 PM

Just ordered one from this website. Hooking it up to my Kenwood DNX6160. For under 20 bucks I dont see what I got to loose.

butdamnbrian 04-15-2011 12:15 AM

i think i just may do the same...

RedBullRR 04-15-2011 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by khameleon (Post 1054026)
I got it a couple of days ago, and tried it out on my TV. It looked good. I put it in my Z yesterday and it fit perfectly. I haven't got my Kenwood 9960 installed yet, but I see no reason it wouln't work fine. As I said, the video looked better than my Boyo camera I had bought earlier. This one was less grainy in low light than the Boyo. I'll update when I get the head installed.

Can you post of a pic of it installed in the license plate area?

wheee! 04-15-2011 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kilted Leo (Post 1046624)
I am looking for a great deal for a back up camera for my 2009 Touring with Nav. Can anyone tell me where I can look?:hello:

Check out NavTool for your 2009 head unit. It will make it an easier install...

chops 04-15-2011 05:49 PM

the backup camera posted above is similar to the one that i had manufactured

i was looking to see if there was interest in getting some more made, but there was only 1 or 2 other peoples interested, and it wasnt worth the cost. i paid almost ~100 dollars to have my backup camera customized with a 1/4" Sony NTSC CCD Sensor and gridlines. it was one of the greatest investments ever. the red section in the camera shows that i have less than a foot of space and has been great to judge backing distances.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...i/IMG_0059.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v404/chopsu3i/1.jpg

khameleon 04-15-2011 06:16 PM

The camera looks just like the one Chops posted. Mine also has some grid lines for distance, but they are blue in color. I'm out of town at the moment, but will post a picture of it when I get home.

jayl 04-16-2011 11:46 AM

this looks like a good option... can you control it from your 9960? like how you can control the kenwood cmos 300?

Also when you post pic's can you also post a pic of the camera installed please?

Thanks,

takjak2 04-16-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by khameleon (Post 1055989)
The camera looks just like the one Chops posted. Mine also has some grid lines for distance, but they are blue in color. I'm out of town at the moment, but will post a picture of it when I get home.

Very interested to see the lines and how it looks in low light.

I have the same HU as Chops. Did you do your own install and cable routing? How troublesome was it?

Paul_S 04-16-2011 01:00 PM

Today I installed this one:

http://forums.nissansportz.com/uploa...5_77_11298.jpg

As you can see it just replaces one of the number plate lights so there is no need to cut or drill anything.

This is what the view looks like:

http://forums.nissansportz.com/uploa...5_77_50533.jpg

It was on ebay and delivered to my door for £19. I'm happy with the result :)

khameleon 04-17-2011 11:41 AM

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Here of some pictures of the camera. The first is a shot from underneath showing the camera replacing the right license plate illuminator.
The second is a closeup from the rear. The third is a shot from the back, and the forth is a picture of the license plate illuminator that it replaces. You can see the clips on this piece are identical to the camera, so it's easy to replace. No hole had to be drilled in the car as the camera wires can enter thje trunk area from pre-existing channels in the frame. Hope this clarifies your questions.....
The weather here in Canada is presently cold and snowy, so I'm not going to put in my Kenwood 9960 until it warms up a bit. I don't want to snap any cold plastic pieces. I did try the camera in the house, and the automatic aperature worked fine, but in very low light, the picture was grainy, but still better than the $80 Boyo license plate camera I had purchased earlier. For $18 delivered, in my opinion, it's a no brainer.
It is a straight CMOS camera with some blue grid lines as well as some numbers from 10-50, in increments of 10....It probably just gives an idea of how close an object is, and not absolute distances. It's not controllable like the Kenwood CMOS300 which is a $300 US camera. (for the fellow that asked).

Svre46 04-17-2011 02:40 PM

Here is a link for the one I purchased. Works great. Is quite similar and does illuminate ok at night with the rear lights and what not. Looks great during the day. Mine was missing the power line but I just cut the connector off and soldered leads on anyway.

NISSAN Livina Car Backup Reverse Rear View Camera | eBay


http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMAG0065-2.jpg

khameleon 04-17-2011 03:34 PM

Hey Svre46
I looked at your unit as well but chose mine for a couple or reasons. I wasn't sure if it would fit so went for a cheaper unit, and the one I got was completely clear on one side, so I thought it might do a better job of illuminating the license plate. After installing mine, I think we could assume any of these cameras made for the Nissan Livina will fit our 370Zs. If one of these vendors made a CCD version, it would probably be a better unit. I haven't found any though.
Having said that, I'm happy with what I have, as it's only for seeing where the heck you are going when backing up. Without the camera, your are really in the dark!

Svre46 04-17-2011 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by khameleon (Post 1058420)
Hey Svre46
I looked at your unit as well but chose mine for a couple or reasons. I wasn't sure if it would fit so went for a cheaper unit, and the one I got was completely clear on one side, so I thought it might do a better job of illuminating the license plate. After installing mine, I think we could assume any of these cameras made for the Nissan Livina will fit our 370Zs. If one of these vendors made a CCD version, it would probably be a better unit. I haven't found any though.
Having said that, I'm happy with what I have, as it's only for seeing where the heck you are going when backing up. Without the camera, your are really in the dark!

Mine actually looks identical to yours from the outside. I just snapped some pics sorry if they are a bit dark. Before I ordered mine I took a micrometer to measure my light just to be sure. The ones they sell online for the “370z” seemed to be sold for a premium. I decided there had to be other Nissan models with the same size light. I don’t think I could be much happier with the end result. It works as good as some other "quality" cameras and has the OEM look to it.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...IMAG0100-1.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...3/IMAG0104.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...3/IMAG0102.jpg

takjak2 04-17-2011 11:44 PM

This one claims to be CCD and the housing looks to be the same.
CCD Auto Camera for Nissan Livina/Geniss/GT-R products, buy CCD Auto Camera for Nissan Livina/Geniss/GT-R products from alibaba.com

Strait from China, they are selling in quantities of 100+. This might be an opportunity for a forum sponsor to retail for the Zs. At $30 plus shipping you could fill a niche and make a profit. Hint hint.

khameleon 04-18-2011 07:22 AM

Here's a whole list of similar cameras. Some CCD, some CMOS. They all look like they can work. Some vendors will sell you 1 as a sample....I mean ...who would buy 100 if you didn't get a chance to test it first?

Camera Livina-Camera Livina Manufacturers, Suppliers and Exporters on Alibaba.com

It's nice to have so many options.

butdamnbrian 04-19-2011 01:26 AM

thanks for the info and taking the time to snap pictures fellas!

Red__Zed 04-19-2011 09:56 AM

pretty clean installs. Looks good.

khameleon 04-22-2011 01:04 PM

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Here's a picture from the $18 camera. Works great.
It would be interesting to compare it to a CCD version....
The screen is showing quite a bit of reflection as the picture was taken in the daylight, but I think you can get an idea of the image quality.

jayl 04-27-2011 05:59 AM

thanks, did you get yours from tmart? if so how long did it take in shipping ? also did it have all wires needed to connect this to the 9960 ?

RedBullRR 04-27-2011 11:13 AM

Got my camera and mounted from TMart install was a breeze. However I will say this. During the day it looks great at night you cant see jack $hit.

Svre46 04-27-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1076616)
Got my camera and mounted from TMart install was a breeze. However I will say this. During the day it looks great at night you cant see jack $hit.

The one I posted from eBay does not look bad at night. The backup lights and plate lights seem to illuminate it decently. The only issue I had was the picture had a slight bit of graininess to it at night since it was dark but does not look that bad. I will try and take a pic tonight of how it looks in the dark.

jayl 04-27-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBullRR (Post 1076616)
Got my camera and mounted from TMart install was a breeze. However I will say this. During the day it looks great at night you cant see jack $hit.

thanks, how long did it take them to ship ?

khameleon 04-27-2011 10:27 PM

It took about 3 weeks to Canada. Interestingly, it was shipped from New York, but the web site was for China. I haven't checked it at night yet, but when testing in the house under low light, it was grainy. As I mentioned earlier, it was not as grainy as my $75 Boyo CMOS camera.

jayl 05-05-2011 03:15 PM

someone give me an idea of where does the back of the license place light is? how can i get to it from the trunk..

I cant figure out how to get the wires from the camera to the trunkkkkkk

thanks.

jayl 05-05-2011 05:49 PM

got it with the help of ken.

jayl 05-06-2011 12:40 AM

so I have 3 wires total from this camera...

blk goes to ground.. I extended the red with another 22AWG wire and its connected to contant power...and one rca will connect to the rca port on the NAV.

I am trying to understand how does the nav know when to switch the input to the camera?

Svre46 05-06-2011 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jayl (Post 1093300)
so I have 3 wires total from this camera...

blk goes to ground.. I extended the red with another 22AWG wire and its connected to contant power...and one rca will connect to the rca port on the NAV.

I am trying to understand how does the nav know when to switch the input to the camera?

Jay1

You want to connect the camera to your positive reverse light wire so that it is ONLY on when you are in reverse. You will then parallel + or - trigger to your radio. It should have a wire for reverse input. Mine is a pioneer and they let you do either a positive or negative trigger. I set it to positive and just paralleled another wire from my reverse lights where the camera's positive lead connected on the tail light harness.

jayl 05-06-2011 10:57 AM

well I wanted the ability to power on the camera even when the car is not in reverse hence connecting to a constant source.. just not sure how it will detect reverse gear..

Svre46 05-06-2011 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 1093885)
well I wanted the ability to power on the camera even when the car is not in reverse hence connecting to a constant source.. just not sure how it will detect reverse gear..

Ok I understand. I just think it would make it "burn out" faster by being constantly on. Take a wire and tap it into the reverse lights then (positive) and run a lead up to the radio with that RCA you have for video. You should have a reverse trigger wire on the back of the head unit. Connect the lead you ran to the wire off the head unit.

takjak2 05-06-2011 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svre46 (Post 1093948)
I just think it would make it "burn out" faster by being constantly on.

I tried to tackle this misconception in another thread. It turns out that some manufacturers recommend against installing in an always-on configuration in their instructions. However, there is no technical reason for the sensors to fail electrically over time, and while there is still no evidence of one actually burning out there are numerous people reporting long lifespans.

I think the best comparison is to CCTV security cameras that will run fine 24/7/365 for years.

jayl 05-08-2011 10:03 AM

Got the camera installed (always on option) very good for $20 the picture was grainy at night but I do not see are issues with it knowing I paid 20 for it!!

I am thinking of installing a switch in place of the 3 dummy switches... that will kill the constant power and the reverse sensor so I can control always on / off option..

Horsie 05-11-2011 04:11 AM

So.. some questions.

1. is this camera working with HDD navigation unit?
2. Where is the video IN connector?
3. It switches on automatically in reverse (also on the LCD), or do I have to press manually AUX?
4. There are any install instructions for this?

Bruche 05-11-2011 06:21 AM

YouTube has some videos - even a couple to do a bypass so you can use the camera while not in reverse. They come so that they will auto on the camera when you put in reverse and turn off the camera when taken out of reverse.

My Z has the camera view in the rearview mirror. It is smaller than on a nav but works well.

Good luck.

Kingbaby 05-11-2011 06:26 AM

I've had the CMOS/CCD backup cam for quite sometime now...works like a charm. I advise however getting LED reverse lights to help brighten the area for view by the camera

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayl (Post 1093885)
well I wanted the ability to power on the camera even when the car is not in reverse hence connecting to a constant source.. just not sure how it will detect reverse gear..

This is how I have mines setup. It doesn't turn on when in reverse I have to turn it on. I only use it to verify how much space I have left. So I park as normal but not all the way then turn it on to complete backing up.

Great for unfamiliar park jobs!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Svre46 (Post 1093948)
Ok I understand. I just think it would make it "burn out" faster by being constantly on. Take a wire and tap it into the reverse lights then (positive) and run a lead up to the radio with that RCA you have for video. You should have a reverse trigger wire on the back of the head unit. Connect the lead you ran to the wire off the head unit.

Everones speculates about it burning out and it may very well burn out quicker being on all the time. It's not a factory piec so it's your money being spent to purschase a new one. I say don't do it, and follow whats quoted!


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