Rear Speaker Panel Removal with pics

Juleous · 02-11-2011, 02:35 PM

I wanted to document the process to remove the rear panels for the speaker replacement or install, this is not meant to be a debate on who likes rear speakers and who doesn't. I just wanted to clearly document the process for those want to do it, and trust me it's way easier than you might think.

First thing is you need the Scosche Panel tool, cheap from Wal-mart. Remove the 3 rear hatch panels as been documented many times before. Pop out the top pillar cap, remove the door sill and that's all you have to take out.

The rear panel then just pops right out, it's a tight one so you have to work it. I started at the top and worked down to the door which was easiest. The small carpeted panels behind the seats were the hardest part, give a good pull on the speaker panel and the carpet panel will pop out.

Here are the pics.

This is with the top cap removed and the door sill removed, rear panel is ready to come out.

Now the rear panel is loose, just pull it straight out the back and it's out.

Here is the space without the rear panel, notice I did not remove everything in the car to get this out.

Speakers mounted, a little trim required nothing major.

My experience with this mod was I speant more time researching how to do it, then I actually spent doing the job.

For those that have their rear hatch areas apart for what ever reason, take the 2 hours total time to complete this mod.

RockStarKick · 02-11-2011, 03:20 PM

+1 rep... Good job, just a couple of questions now..

What size speaker can fit that ? Mounting depth and diameter ?
What did you have to trim ?
Was there any wiring there from factory ?
Does that help or hurt the sound quality..? I know that subject has been
debated some, just curious..

Thanks..

bigaudiofanat · 02-11-2011, 03:58 PM

No stock wiring to the rear speakers on the base system. You would have to run two wires to the front and clip 4 wires in total into the stock wiring harness in order for this to work with a stock head unit. IMO and some others rear speakers harm the good sound stage of a small car.

RockStarKick · 02-11-2011, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

No stock wiring to the rear speakers on the base system. You would have to run two wires to the front and clip 4 wires in total into the stock wiring harness in order for this to work with a stock head unit. IMO and some others rear speakers harm the good sound stage of a small car.

Thanks,

IMHO, I feel like something is missing in the audio, I know the stock system
sucks and I also have a 08 Acura TL with surround sound. So maybe that is
what I'm expecting...

Juleous · 02-11-2011, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockStarKick

+1 rep... Good job, just a couple of questions now..

What size speaker can fit that ? Mounting depth and diameter ?
What did you have to trim ?
Was there any wiring there from factory ?
Does that help or hurt the sound quality..? I know that subject has been
debated some, just curious..

Thanks..

I used the Boston S35 fits tight 1"11/16 depth 3"3/16 cut out.

There is no room behind the speaker, I had to trim the stock mounting screw tabs on the back of the panel, for the cutout of the speaker to sit flush to the panel speaker grill opening. It was just plastic, I have a touring without Blows now, and there was a stock wire but I ran a new one anyway.

When I listened to the Bose I always had some rear fill going on, with an upgraded system I don't expect it to get any worse.

Funny thing with music is it's totally subjective to the listener, maybe most say no rear speakers. This post was for those few that want some rear fill, don't knock it till you try it.

RockStarKick · 02-11-2011, 04:40 PM

Thanks, for the reply, I'm considering this as well..

turbodog · 02-14-2011, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

No stock wiring to the rear speakers on the base system. You would have to run two wires to the front and clip 4 wires in total into the stock wiring harness in order for this to work with a stock head unit. IMO and some others rear speakers harm the good sound stage of a small car.

Remember, if doing this with a stock base HU, the rear channels ARE available from the HU, just need to add pins to the vehicle connector. This way the fader can be used to control the amount of rear fill desired. I suspect just wiring them into the stock HU front channel would yield less than wonderful results.... and the parallel connection of 3 sets of speakers might result in dangerously low impedance presented to the HU power amp.

RockStarKick · 02-14-2011, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbodog

Remember, if doing this with a stock base HU, the rear channels ARE available from the HU, just need to add pins to the vehicle connector. This way the fader can be used to control the amount of rear fill desired. I suspect just wiring them into the stock HU front channel would yield less than wonderful results.... and the parallel connection of 3 sets of speakers might result in dangerously low impedance presented to the HU power amp.

Right.. I would not consider hooking up any more speakers to the already weak
base HU..

bigaudiofanat · 02-14-2011, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

No stock wiring to the rear speakers on the base system. You would have to run two wires to the front and clip 4 wires in total into the stock wiring harness in order for this to work with a stock head unit. IMO and some others rear speakers harm the good sound stage of a small car.

Right as I said in my post that would be needed in order to plug in new speakers.

The head unit can do 4 speakers it is the same one they use in the nissan trucks I just do not see rear speakers doing any good in a small car like the z.

Juleous · 02-14-2011, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Right as I said in my post that would be needed in order to plug in new speakers.

The head unit can do 4 speakers it is the same one they use in the nissan trucks I just do not see rear speakers doing any good in a small car like the z.

Saying that would mean that you have never heard decent rears in a Z?

bigaudiofanat · 02-14-2011, 08:17 PM

Nope I do not care what they are even in my civic I do not have rears simply because it ruins the quality of a 2 channel setup and ruins your sound stage.

Juleous · 02-14-2011, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Nope I do not care what they are even in my civic I do not have rears simply because it ruins the quality of a 2 channel setup and ruins your sound stage.

"Your like a blind man trying to pick out his favorite porno"

pg6speed · 02-14-2011, 09:38 PM

bigaudiofanat · 02-14-2011, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juleous

"Your like a blind man trying to pick out his favorite porno"

And you a guy that makes pointless comments about someones choice and opinion. See the light man rear speakers are bad.

Juleous · 02-15-2011, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

And you a guy that makes pointless comments about someones choice and opinion. See the light man rear speakers are bad.

Not sure why your even posting in a thread that odviously is for those of us that enjoy a little rear fill.

02-11-2011, 02:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
Juleous Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nowhere Posts: 335 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 15	Rear Speaker Panel Removal with pics I wanted to document the process to remove the rear panels for the speaker replacement or install, this is not meant to be a debate on who likes rear speakers and who doesn't. I just wanted to clearly document the process for those want to do it, and trust me it's way easier than you might think. First thing is you need the Scosche Panel tool, cheap from Wal-mart. Remove the 3 rear hatch panels as been documented many times before. Pop out the top pillar cap, remove the door sill and that's all you have to take out. The rear panel then just pops right out, it's a tight one so you have to work it. I started at the top and worked down to the door which was easiest. The small carpeted panels behind the seats were the hardest part, give a good pull on the speaker panel and the carpet panel will pop out. Here are the pics. This is with the top cap removed and the door sill removed, rear panel is ready to come out. Now the rear panel is loose, just pull it straight out the back and it's out. Here is the space without the rear panel, notice I did not remove everything in the car to get this out. Speakers mounted, a little trim required nothing major. My experience with this mod was I speant more time researching how to do it, then I actually spent doing the job. For those that have their rear hatch areas apart for what ever reason, take the 2 hours total time to complete this mod. shayandude likes this.

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RockStarKick Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 298 Drives: it like a rental Rep Power: 14	+1 rep... Good job, just a couple of questions now.. What size speaker can fit that ? Mounting depth and diameter ? What did you have to trim ? Was there any wiring there from factory ? Does that help or hurt the sound quality..? I know that subject has been debated some, just curious.. Thanks.. __________________ 2013 Mustang GT, 6M, Track Pack & Leather Recaros 2011 Pearl White 6M /Sport Pkg - SOLD

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bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	No stock wiring to the rear speakers on the base system. You would have to run two wires to the front and clip 4 wires in total into the stock wiring harness in order for this to work with a stock head unit. IMO and some others rear speakers harm the good sound stage of a small car. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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RockStarKick Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 298 Drives: it like a rental Rep Power: 14	Thanks, for the reply, I'm considering this as well.. __________________ 2013 Mustang GT, 6M, Track Pack & Leather Recaros 2011 Pearl White 6M /Sport Pkg - SOLD

02-14-2011, 08:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Nope I do not care what they are even in my civic I do not have rears simply because it ruins the quality of a 2 channel setup and ruins your sound stage. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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