2 way, 3 way ???

RockStarKick · 01-28-2011, 02:36 PM

I'm in the market for a component speaker set, 6.5" to be specific and around $220 range. I am a noob about audio and was wondering what the benefit of a 2 way vs 3 way would make. I really did search and came up with noting..

I do plan to power them with an appropriate amp.

kenchan · 01-28-2011, 03:05 PM

blah, at only 200 range get 2way instead of 3 cheezy speakers mounted together for the bestbuy super sale.

RockStarKick · 01-28-2011, 03:38 PM

So if I were to buy the component set that comes with the tweeter. Is that really considered a 2 way ?

metz · 01-28-2011, 03:43 PM

yes. They have 2way and 3 way component sets.
A 2 way is usually a 4.5 to 6.5" and a tweeter and a 3 way is that but with a 4 or 3.5" mid and a different crossover.

RockStarKick · 01-28-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by metz

yes. They have 2way and 3 way component sets.
A 2 way is usually a 4.5 to 6.5" and a tweeter and a 3 way is that but with a 4 or 3.5" mid and a different crossover.

That's just what I was looking for. Thanks !!

kenchan · 01-28-2011, 04:15 PM

to confuse the situation if you get a sub your 2way setup will now become a 3way.

RockStarKick · 01-28-2011, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

to confuse the situation if you get a sub your 2way setup will now become a 3way.

Thanks, Ken !!

What about the tweeters, do those need to be hooked up to an amplifier ? Or will they run off the HU ?

I don't want to run a sub, just the component set.. But 3 way's are fun..LOL

samb03 · 01-29-2011, 01:03 AM

what component set are you looking at? I am in the same boat. I am thinking CDT or Image Dynamics. The reviews say that CDT is very natural sounding, but the ID's have a lot more midbass (rattling change in the ash tray). I am going to run a ID 12in sub so I don't really need the bass but it would be kinda cool to have matching speaker brands.

I am curious about powering the tweets myself. I think the XOver will direct the power accordingly, and if you run a seperate amp channel to the tweeters it is called biamping. I could be wrong but this is my understanding. Maybe somebody will chime in.

Sorry to threat jack, but I just ran across a deal on some CDT gold 642's. To run a 3 way set do you need to install all mids in the doors or could I mount the 4in in the stock location behind the seats?

BalanBro · 01-29-2011, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by samb03

what component set are you looking at? I am in the same boat. I am thinking CDT or Image Dynamics. The reviews say that CDT is very natural sounding, but the ID's have a lot more midbass (rattling change in the ash tray). I am going to run a ID 12in sub so I don't really need the bass but it would be kinda cool to have matching speaker brands.

I am curious about powering the tweets myself. I think the XOver will direct the power accordingly, and if you run a seperate amp channel to the tweeters it is called biamping. I could be wrong but this is my understanding. Maybe somebody will chime in.

Sorry to threat jack, but I just ran across a deal on some CDT gold 642's. To run a 3 way set do you need to install all mids in the doors or could I mount the 4in in the stock location behind the seats?

Component speakers usually sound most accurate when all three drivers are mounted near one another. This is mainly because the distance the sound has to travel to your ear is consistant among all drivers.

A component set with dedicated x-overs will direct power as needed, whether2-way or 3-way. My suggestion is to stick to a good 2-way for ease of install. A 3-way can be better, but it usally more challenging to install properly. You can search other car audio forums to find nice 2-way components.

Oh, and you are right about the bi-amping thing, but keep in mind that this will only work for systems with crossovers designed for that purpose. If it is bi-amp capable, it is typically advertised as such. IMHO, it's not really necessary and will force you to have to separately level match the tweeters with the mids. The x-overs I have in my daily driver are bi-amp capable, but I left them in the single input setting.

RockStarKick · 01-29-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by samb03

what component set are you looking at? I am in the same boat. I am thinking CDT or Image Dynamics. The reviews say that CDT is very natural sounding, but the ID's have a lot more midbass (rattling change in the ash tray). I am going to run a ID 12in sub so I don't really need the bass but it would be kinda cool to have matching speaker brands.

I am curious about powering the tweets myself. I think the XOver will direct the power accordingly, and if you run a seperate amp channel to the tweeters it is called biamping. I could be wrong but this is my understanding. Maybe somebody will chime in.

Sorry to threat jack, but I just ran across a deal on some CDT gold 642's. To run a 3 way set do you need to install all mids in the doors or could I mount the 4in in the stock location behind the seats?

I was thinking some of the Polk MM651UM 6-3/4 Component set.

Those come with a crossover.. So I would just hook the amp up to the crossover and the tweeter and 6-3/4 would be hooked up to the other end of the crossover?

BalanBro · 01-29-2011, 03:08 PM

That looks like a marine component set. I would not go for that. The xover network is in the magnet which means one of two things:

1. Really large mounting depth which may pose a problem hitting the window as it rolls down.
or
2. Really tiny magnet to accomodate the xover components, meaning the speakers are really not that good.

It's probably a combo of the two. All the money on that set is likely going into waterproofing rather than audio quality.

kenchan · 01-29-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RockStarKick

Thanks, Ken !!

What about the tweeters, do those need to be hooked up to an amplifier ? Or will they run off the HU ?

I don't want to run a sub, just the component set.. But 3 way's are fun..LOL

You would run the amp out to your crossover then the tweeter out to your tweeter and woofer out to your woofer ...too easy, huh?

. If you use HU only, then run the woofer speaker out to the cross over and same as above.

bigaudiofanat · 01-29-2011, 07:09 PM

Go with a 2 way setup easier to setup and less modification needed.

RockStarKick · 01-31-2011, 12:39 AM

Ok thanks, I'm beginning to understand..

Any recommendations on a nice component set for around $220 to $250

samb03 · 01-31-2011, 02:13 AM

cdt, image dynamics, moral (their high end stuff is crazy expensive and good, but not sure about their "low end" starting around your budget),DLS, rainbow (top notch and german), diamond audio, hertz, JL audio (I hear good things about them but I have an unwarrented prejustice against this brand), If you can find Focals everybody raves about them. This is start.

You might check out some classifies in car audio forums. I just found a set of 3 way CDT HD 642 golds for $250 shipped. retail1034and sell for 899. they also had CDT HD62's for 170 or obo selling at woofersetc for 380 retail for 599.

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samb03 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: western Oklahoma Posts: 164 Drives: Black Cherry Sport Rep Power: 15	what component set are you looking at? I am in the same boat. I am thinking CDT or Image Dynamics. The reviews say that CDT is very natural sounding, but the ID's have a lot more midbass (rattling change in the ash tray). I am going to run a ID 12in sub so I don't really need the bass but it would be kinda cool to have matching speaker brands. I am curious about powering the tweets myself. I think the XOver will direct the power accordingly, and if you run a seperate amp channel to the tweeters it is called biamping. I could be wrong but this is my understanding. Maybe somebody will chime in. Sorry to threat jack, but I just ran across a deal on some CDT gold 642's. To run a 3 way set do you need to install all mids in the doors or could I mount the 4in in the stock location behind the seats? Last edited by samb03; 01-29-2011 at 01:33 AM.

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BalanBro Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 318 Drives: 40th Anniv. 370Z Rep Power: 1111	That looks like a marine component set. I would not go for that. The xover network is in the magnet which means one of two things: 1. Really large mounting depth which may pose a problem hitting the window as it rolls down. or 2. Really tiny magnet to accomodate the xover components, meaning the speakers are really not that good. It's probably a combo of the two. All the money on that set is likely going into waterproofing rather than audio quality. __________________ 2012 Mercedes C63 AMG P31 Sedan, ROW, aFe, Eurocharged Dyno Tune. 438WHP/415WTQ 2010 SOLD: 40th Anniversary 370z

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bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Go with a 2 way setup easier to setup and less modification needed. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	blah, at only 200 range get 2way instead of 3 cheezy speakers mounted together for the bestbuy super sale.

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metz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 347 Drives: 05 Roush, 2010 40th Rep Power: 15	yes. They have 2way and 3 way component sets. A 2 way is usually a 4.5 to 6.5" and a tweeter and a 3 way is that but with a 4 or 3.5" mid and a different crossover.

01-28-2011, 04:15 PM	#6 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	to confuse the situation if you get a sub your 2way setup will now become a 3way.

01-31-2011, 12:39 AM	#14 (permalink)
RockStarKick Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Posts: 298 Drives: it like a rental Rep Power: 15	Ok thanks, I'm beginning to understand.. Any recommendations on a nice component set for around $220 to $250 __________________ 2013 Mustang GT, 6M, Track Pack & Leather Recaros 2011 Pearl White 6M /Sport Pkg - SOLD

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samb03 Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: western Oklahoma Posts: 164 Drives: Black Cherry Sport Rep Power: 15	cdt, image dynamics, moral (their high end stuff is crazy expensive and good, but not sure about their "low end" starting around your budget),DLS, rainbow (top notch and german), diamond audio, hertz, JL audio (I hear good things about them but I have an unwarrented prejustice against this brand), If you can find Focals everybody raves about them. This is start. You might check out some classifies in car audio forums. I just found a set of 3 way CDT HD 642 golds for $250 shipped. retail1034and sell for 899. they also had CDT HD62's for 170 or obo selling at woofersetc for 380 retail for 599.