Zenclosures Upfire Vs Standard
 

I have seen other posts as what people think the differences are, but I was wondering has anyone actually heard both to have a side by side comparison? I see both having its pros and cons.

Upfire
Pros:
Not standard. Better look???
Do not have to worry about items in the hatch hitting the speakers or grilles.

Cons:
I am not sure what they are. Maybe too loud right behind my head. Maybe sound quality not as good? Don't know. That's where the comparison would come in handy.

Standard
Pros:
Better sound quality? Once again, need a comparison.

Cons:
Speakers or grilles could be damaged by items in hatch.

Really, my main concern is sound quality. I can deal with other cons, but if I knew which one sounded better or if they were at least equal I would feel better about a decision.

I would prefer to have the upfire, but not if I will sacrifice sound quality.

Also, I was wondering where everyone has placed their amps when using one of these enclosures.

Standard would be a bit louder and give the sub more area to work with and reflect the sound forward towards the front instead of up and down.

Go with the two 12's configuration this is only available in upfire I think!

I can tell you from experience that I have tried both upfire and rear fire and did not really notice any difference in performance or loudness. Sub options is the only thing I would be thinking about with the up vs rear fire.

If I were to buy a Zenclosure again I would buy the upfire dual 12's and blow the windows out!!!

Is there enough air space for 2 of them tho? I know there is a box for two of them but 1 might sound louder since it has the extra space to use? maybe i am wrong i am just guessing

Did you hear one sub verses two? if so which sounded better

There is more than enough air space in the upfire for 2 decent 12's, I would never waste that much trunk space with 1 sub.

I have tried my two 10's in both rear and upfire, no real difference noted it blows your head off either way.

good to know thank you for the info.

I see no reason. To go with two 12's ask around people are happy with 1 . also they do come in rear firing

I thought about two 12s, but the box doesn't have enough volume for the subs I would use.

Two 12's only in upfire configuration with a Zenclosure, look it up if you like. The air space is on the small side if you have a specific sub in mind, the new shallow subs would work fine though.

If your into big bass then going with two 12's would be a normal thing to do, I have two 10's and think about upgrading.

Some people just don't understand.

I do know about the Zenclosurs upfire holding 12's. That is what I originally wanted. But, like I said the subs I would use need more volume. Never used a shallow sub. How, does the sound compare?

Lots of people run one shallow mount 12 in the spare tire enclosure. I have not used a shallow mount sub to comment on sound, that said you could use two 12" alpine type r's in the Zenclosure. You would be right at the bottom end of the required volume but it's in spec from Alpine, or build a custom box which you would be much happier with anyway that's what I did.

I am going to use Image dynamics Q12 in mine. I still have to scrape the money together. I already have the sub. It is rated for .6-1.0 ci. It is more of an SQ than an SPL sub though. I like it that way. It can keep up with any speed metal that I throw at it but I hear they aren't that hot when it comes to rap.

The only experience that I have with shallow subs is the Rockford P3 12 shallows. My buddy put a couple behind the rear seat of his 4door powerstroke. It doesn't sound bad but they aren't as powerful(rich)sounding as a standard sub. He isn't happy with them but he is used to 15's. Now he is kicking himself for not cutting the seat frame and makeing room for "real" speakers.

Most of the M-class memphis will fit 2 12's as well

nO, i believe if you play with the pull down's on their website, you can pick a 1 10 inch upfire too, which is what I might be getting.. I didn't realize this myself at first, the site is badly programmed. (I know much more about computer programming than sound systems) :tiphat:

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