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boomboom 12-10-2010 11:42 PM

will 4inch fit in the door?
 
I have some 4inch diamond audio hex series i wanna use for the doors, but don't know if they can be mounted?

jikhead 12-11-2010 12:13 AM

Are you driving a base, sport, or touring?

optiontrader 12-11-2010 01:22 AM

You could probably fab up an adapter plate (or buy one). I doubt it's nothing a little creativity couldn't fix.

I prefer the largest midbass drivers up forward, keeps the bass in front better with a rear mounted sub. But I'm sure it'll work; you'll need to tweak your crossover point for the best fit. Wait a min - are you running a sub? Probably should have asked that first. :p

bigaudiofanat 12-11-2010 07:18 AM

Not sure why your trying to put 4 inch other than you have them. I would spend a bit of money and put 6.5 in there for better mid bass as said above no reason to waste space.

If you still want to than yes you can, you just will have to make custom spacers.

90 ST 12-11-2010 10:52 AM

Unless you are doing a 3-way set i wouldn't bother with 4's upfront.

bigaudiofanat 12-11-2010 11:39 AM

Would be better off doing a 6.5 in the stock location and fiberglass kick panel for the 4 inch if he is doing a 3 way.

boomboom 12-11-2010 03:24 PM

Ya I am doing a 12inch sub in the back. The problem is I have the hex series set with the 4inch and the 6.5 inch, but was told I cant use the 6,5 cause it was an add on to the 4inch set? so i was just gonna use the 4inch since i already have it.

I get so confused about this stuff! So I have the 4inch with the tweeter set and crossovers and I have the 6.5 inch add ons.

If I buy a different 6.5 set what would you guys get? Nothing to crazy but quality.

My amps and sub are memphis and alpine head unit.a;pine not baught yet

boomboom 12-11-2010 06:23 PM

I am thinking of getting the polk mm 6.5 components. look good for the price?

metz 12-11-2010 11:43 PM

You have a 3 way diamond set now then. Why not do the 6.5 in the door and the 4 in the dash and find somewhere for the tweeter?

90 ST 12-12-2010 12:57 AM

Depending on the deck and amps you have you could do a active X-over set up and not use the X overs, then you wont have any problems, they then become just speakers. I'm use what started as a comp set, but pulled the X overs out and am using my deck for the X over.

90 ST 12-12-2010 12:59 AM

I just noticed you don't have the deck yet, get an Alpine with 3 way X over capabilites, as long as you have 5 channles of amplification...

optiontrader 12-12-2010 01:00 AM

You can put the tweeters in the A pillars, but we're talking some custom work.

The Diamonds are nice (so are the Polks you mentioned, but if you've got the Diamonds, I'd use them instead!); since you've got the 6-1/2" midbass and the tweeter, check to see if those drivers are the same used in the set. If so, changing out the crossover will be all that's needed. Unless you VERY sure as to the parameters of the xover used in the 4-1/2" set (xover point, slopes, impedances, etc.), I'd call Diamond first. This way would save you the most $$$ and get you kick-*** sound in the end.

optiontrader 12-12-2010 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 847822)
Depending on the deck and amps you have you could do a active X-over set up and not use the X overs, then you wont have any problems, they then become just speakers. I'm use what started as a comp set, but pulled the X overs out and am using my deck for the X over.

There's an even better idea in going active, but you'll need to upgrade add an active crossover. Those Diamonds would sing with separate amp channels drivin' em!

90 ST 12-12-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by optiontrader (Post 847825)
There's an even better idea in going active, but you'll need to upgrade add an active crossover. Those Diamonds would sing with separate amp channels drivin' em!

Thats the thing if he needs a deck he can get one with a built in 3 way active, i have a Alpine 9887 with one and it works great, but you'd have to get the new model, which i've heard is not as nice...

boomboom 12-12-2010 01:28 AM

I was gonna get the new alpine 117 cause i can run my system active, therefore not needing the crossovers for the 6.5s and the 4,s.

I have a 4 channel Memphis amp so your saying run the 6.5 and the 4inch with that amp? Run the tweeters from the deck and cross all them with the deck?

its this amp:
16-MA3004 - Memphis 75 x 4 Class AB Full Range Marine Amplifier

And this amp for my subs:
16-MAD1000 - Memphis 1100 x 1 Class D Marine Subwoofer Amplifier

heres the 6.5 add ons:
S6.0MX3 - Diamond Audio 6" 3 Way Upgrade System

heres the 4inch set:
DIAMOND AUDIO HEX S400A NEW PRO 4" COMPONENT SPEAKERS on eBay!

So put the 4inch in the dash, 6.5 in the doors and find a spot for the tweets and don't use any of the crossovers, use the one with the 117 deck?

boomboom 12-12-2010 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 847828)
Thats the thing if he needs a deck he can get one with a built in 3 way active, i have a Alpine 9887 with one and it works great, but you'd have to get the new model, which i've heard is not as nice...

I have been trying to get the 9887 but everyones out of stock! Will the 117 work?

bigaudiofanat 12-12-2010 08:28 AM

The 9887 is what I have and is a great unit the 117 can so it as well but I think the 9887 would do a better job. You will however need the H100 to go active with the 117 but I think it would be a newer better choice.

90 ST 12-12-2010 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboom (Post 847842)
I was gonna get the new alpine 117 cause i can run my system active, therefore not needing the crossovers for the 6.5s and the 4,s.

I have a 4 channel Memphis amp so your saying run the 6.5 and the 4inch with that amp? Run the tweeters from the deck and cross all them with the deck?

its this amp:
16-MA3004 - Memphis 75 x 4 Class AB Full Range Marine Amplifier

And this amp for my subs:
16-MAD1000 - Memphis 1100 x 1 Class D Marine Subwoofer Amplifier

heres the 6.5 add ons:
S6.0MX3 - Diamond Audio 6" 3 Way Upgrade System

heres the 4inch set:
DIAMOND AUDIO HEX S400A NEW PRO 4" COMPONENT SPEAKERS on eBay!

So put the 4inch in the dash, 6.5 in the doors and find a spot for the tweets and don't use any of the crossovers, use the one with the 117 deck?

What you would do is leave the 4's out, use the amp to run the 6.5 and the tweets, and then your sub amp stays as the sub amp. your deck with do all the Xing over.

90 ST 12-12-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 847925)
The 9887 is what I have and is a great unit the 117 can so it as well but I think the 9887 would do a better job. You will however need the H100 to go active with the 117 but I think it would be a newer better choice.

I'm not 100% that you need the Imprint unit to go active, just to do a full tune, which i've had mixed respondses from Alpine dealers.

boomboom 12-12-2010 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 848015)
What you would do is leave the 4's out, use the amp to run the 6.5 and the tweets, and then your sub amp stays as the sub amp. your deck with do all the Xing over.

I don't use the 4inch? Don't I need those to get a full sound? Like someone said 4inch in the dash 6.5 inch the doors and tweets in the pillers?

Sounds like it might just be easier to get the polk sr5250,s and run that set. The 6.5 are discontinued now.I can sell the diamond 4inch and 6.5 inch, use that money to get the polks.then the amp can run the tweeters and the mids and the system should be full.

bigaudiofanat 12-12-2010 08:42 PM

The sr's are great I am thinking of running them in my next car when i get it. I would just run them at full as there crossovers are pretty well built.

boomboom 12-12-2010 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 848671)
The sr's are great I am thinking of running them in my next car when i get it. I would just run them at full as there crossovers are pretty well built.

What do you mean at full? ha sorry i am kinda new to this. I think you mean use the crossovers that come with them correct?

90 ST 12-12-2010 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boomboom (Post 848654)
I don't use the 4inch? Don't I need those to get a full sound? Like someone said 4inch in the dash 6.5 inch the doors and tweets in the pillers?

Sounds like it might just be easier to get the polk sr5250,s and run that set. The 6.5 are discontinued now.I can sell the diamond 4inch and 6.5 inch, use that money to get the polks.then the amp can run the tweeters and the mids and the system should be full.

It would be no different then haveing a 6.5" set to begin with, the set up you have just has different X overs, which you wouldn't be using.

boomboom 12-13-2010 12:55 AM

So I could use the diamond 6.5 and they would be like using the polk 6.5,s? The polks are 2 way i thought the diamonds weren't.

90 ST 12-13-2010 02:31 AM

Speakers are speakers in this case, we, the company i work for, have a 6.5" add on mid bass also but it's the same 6.5 add on as our 6.5 set, it's just a different X over.

boomboom 12-13-2010 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 848945)
Speakers are speakers in this case, we, the company i work for, have a 6.5" add on mid bass also but it's the same 6.5 add on as our 6.5 set, it's just a different X over.

oh i see.Maybe i can just use the crossover from the 4inch set if i decide to not go active. I am not real good at this stuff that's the only reason I wouldn't go active.

90 ST 12-13-2010 02:55 PM

The Xover points with the 4" xover will be different then with a 6.5" set, thus needing to go active with what you have.

bigaudiofanat 12-13-2010 04:39 PM

Using a crossover from one set of speakers on another set is a bad idea. You can damage the tweeters and or woofers if they can not handle the sam frequencies as the old set.


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