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bradcc 11-14-2010 04:35 PM

Aftermarket speakers that fit on the door w/o drilling
 
hey guys,

not very impressed with the stock(base) audio system. However, I'd like to replace the speakers and try to make it sound a bit better. I'm looking for a pair of speakers that I can do a straight swap with the stock speakers w/o any drilling or modification. Do these speakers exist? If so, what brand/models are out there with a decent sound quality? I am a n00b when it comes to car audio.. any help is appreciated!

2fast4thelaw 11-14-2010 05:51 PM

Any 6-1/2 Speaker will fit with little to no modification, however you need to get some 3/4" speaker rings that bolt into the stock speaker holes. These can be easily found on fleabay. The extra 3/4" depth will allow large basket drivers to drop right in without obstructing anything or hitting the inside of the door. I would use the stock tweeter location as it is also easy to fit tweeters in the dash without cutting or modifying the factory opening.

In your case a speaker upgrade can be easily done in a couple of hours.

Dubro 11-16-2010 06:56 PM

Will Polk Audio DB6501's fit without the 3/4" spacer in a 2010 Nismo? And by the way they are on sale today for 55.00 at Amazon. I bought them last month for 110.00 and thought I got a good deal!

bigaudiofanat 11-16-2010 07:20 PM

The polk db's will fit WITHOUT a spacer ring direct fit and even use the same holes using the adapter ring that comes with the polks.

The only thing you will have to make or cut up is the tweeter bracket. Also I highly recommend running new wires from the crossover to the new speakers.

sonic370 11-16-2010 08:04 PM

had jbl's put in mine stock size went with component's compared to the stock speakers the sound is well improved..............

still the hu is very weak still need to change it but can't find a decent one at a good price... deal breaker it's got to be DD, and bluetooth ready for hand free calls any ideas??

jikhead 11-17-2010 03:46 AM

If you have a Touring model, I can make you my spacers for $40 and you can use any speaker you wish.

http://www.the370z.com/audio-video/1...ing-model.html

bigaudiofanat 11-17-2010 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 812207)
had jbl's put in mine stock size went with component's compared to the stock speakers the sound is well improved..............

still the hu is very weak still need to change it but can't find a decent one at a good price... deal breaker it's got to be DD, and bluetooth ready for hand free calls any ideas??

How about this one if you do not want nav. I have been recomending this one to a few people.

iXA-W404 - Alpine 2-DIN 4.3-inch QVGA Touchscreen iPhone Compatible Car Reciever

And than if you want a good amount of power to go to your new speakers. Just plug an play this.

http://www.woofersetc.com/p8323/KTP4...Power-Pack.htm

bradcc 11-17-2010 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 812207)
had jbl's put in mine stock size went with component's compared to the stock speakers the sound is well improved..............

still the hu is very weak still need to change it but can't find a decent one at a good price... deal breaker it's got to be DD, and bluetooth ready for hand free calls any ideas??

did you lose a lot of bass running the jbl's with stock HU? that's the only thing stopping me from getting new speakers.. would you still have gotten new speakers knowing that you'll never change your HU?

i've been thinking about putting in new HU + new speakers.. but just last night my car alarm went off.. so not so sure about new HU anymore :mad:

sonic370 11-17-2010 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bradcc (Post 812639)
did you lose a lot of bass running the jbl's with stock HU? that's the only thing stopping me from getting new speakers.. would you still have gotten new speakers knowing that you'll never change your HU?

i've been thinking about putting in new HU + new speakers.. but just last night my car alarm went off.. so not so sure about new HU anymore :mad:

no i didn't lose any bass at all it improved.. yes i would have still gotten new speakers knowing i would not change out the HU. (have you seen the stock speakers)!!!! they are a joke.. the only reason i want a new HU is for bluetooth,phone etc and a little more head room for the over all sound..

sonic370 11-17-2010 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 812480)
How about this one if you do not want nav. I have been recomending this one to a few people.

iXA-W404 - Alpine 2-DIN 4.3-inch QVGA Touchscreen iPhone Compatible Car Reciever

And than if you want a good amount of power to go to your new speakers. Just plug an play this.

KTP-445 - Alpine Head Unit 4-Channel Power Pack

thanks for the info Big but it doesn't play cd's... to me for some reason a cd can sound better than songs i download from itunes,even when i burn the same song

bradcc 11-17-2010 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 813330)
no i didn't lose any bass at all it improved.. yes i would have still gotten new speakers knowing i would not change out the HU. (have you seen the stock speakers)!!!! they are a joke.. the only reason i want a new HU is for bluetooth,phone etc and a little more head room for the over all sound..


ummmm.. this is tempting :yum:... what model of jbl speakers you got?

bradcc 11-21-2010 01:45 PM

anyone knows if Polk MM651 will fit into the door depth-wise?

I've seen from other forums that the MM651's will give you more bass over the DB651's when running on stock HU. Anyone had experience with these? The MM's cost $60 more .. do they sound better enough over the DB's to justify the additional $$?

thx!

ced 01-15-2011 02:22 AM

thanks guys been very helpful

tjaartk 07-29-2011 04:55 AM

Hi Guys, will I be able to fit DLS UP6i's or UP5's into the door of the 370 - with spacers of course?

bigaudiofanat 07-29-2011 07:39 AM

Probably, I mean I fit a set of ID CXS in the openings with spacers.

tjaartk 07-30-2011 07:06 AM

Hey dude,

I have attached a picture for you. You 6 x 9 and 85mm mounting depth to play with. If you want to fit a 6.5 inch mid, you can easily make an adapter our of superwood to fit into the standard enclosure, which you bolt and seal to the enclosure (use polyutherane - the stuff they use for windscreen's), and then you bolt the speaker into the superwood spacer/cut-out.

I am fitting Focal Power 165 KR2's. My mounting depth is 70mm for the speaker. I am mounting them 6mm deeper than the standard Bose speaker, so that I have more space between the speaker and the speaker cover - The Focals move a bit more. And you know how it goes.... I like to move it move it

Everybody..............(chorus)

He likes to move it move it..:nutswinger:

bigaudiofanat 07-30-2011 08:09 AM

Just make sure if this is a bose system to run new speaker wire and use a new amp else you can blow the bose amp because of the ohms ratings.

tjaartk 07-30-2011 09:04 AM

Thanks Mate, should be OK - the focals are also 2 ohms

moto_italia 07-30-2011 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjaartk (Post 1237404)
Thanks Mate, should be OK - the focals are also 2 ohms

So is your system the Bose, or the standard?

And if it's the Bose, I'm confused about replacing the Bose speakers without using a signal processor like the MTX re-Q or JL Cleansweep, combined with a new amp.

I thought you couldn't just replace the Bose speakers with aftermarket speakers because the Bose amps' output impedance started out at 4 ohms and dipped verrrrrry low across the frequency spectrum, and any aftermarket speaker would cause the Bose amp to clip early and burn out fast.

So, can you just replace the Bose speakers with 2 ohm aftermarket speakers and make no other changes?

bigaudiofanat 07-30-2011 11:40 AM

You can not or should not just replace the speakers of the bose system. As I said before the first reason is the OHMS second even if you match that you are still getting two separate signals from the bose amp one for highs one for lows so you can not just use your new crossover that comes with the new speakers. Also on top of this even if you were to use it that way your bose system is removing a lot of freq that your new speakers CAN reproduce.

So simply put if you want to replace bose speakers get a re-q5 a new amp run new wires to your new speakers from that amp. You are going to save a lot of time and aggravation that way.

In a word Moto, NO

tjaartk 07-31-2011 12:16 PM

I have the bose system - being replaced with Sony DD DVD, focal K power speakers with Focal amp, a JL 13 W5 sub and JL XD600/1 amp. Just still looking for a double din radio front panel to replace the Bose front panel.

Just the upgrade to a good 2 ohm speaker is already a big improvement over the bose speaker. In comparison the Bose speaker sounds muted. I did a test run with just the focal 2 ohms in, no other changes, and the difference is impressive. Of course no where near as impressive as driving the focals with a decent amp. I did it just to be able to compare...

As everyone says - the bose speakers really aren't very good.

If you are going to the trouble to change the speakers, rather do it properly - dynamat behind the speaker, dynamat the whole inner of the door, pull through decent wires, drive it with a decent amp, and change the head unit while you are about it. A decent system is going to set you back about $3000

But hey, we like to move it..:roflpuke2:

bigaudiofanat 07-31-2011 12:29 PM

A decent sound system 3k? I do not think so. A nice kenwood head unit and a set of polk db's will set you back maybe 1k add a sub and amp and your looking at around 1500. 3k for above mid range system. If you want serious than 6-8k

tjaartk 08-01-2011 07:19 AM

Wow things must be expensive in the US

I will convert currency to US $ for you:

Sony XAV - 70BT double din DVD $735
Focal K Power 165 KR2's $475
Focal FP 2.75 amp $360
JL 13TW53 Sub

tjaartk 08-01-2011 07:23 AM

Wow things must be expensive in the US

I will convert currency to US $ for you:

Sony XAV - 70BT double din DVD $735
Focal K Power 165 KR2's $475
Focal FP 2.75 amp $360
JL 13TW53 Sub $600
JL XD 600/1 amp $540
Sub enclosure $300

That gives $ 3 010

And this gives pretty good SQ for the average guy.

Hows my maths?

bigaudiofanat 08-01-2011 08:34 AM

You math is fine and focal is good, I would not go with sony for a head unit or anything else ever sense there "xplod" line. I would also just not pair them with Jl stuff. I would for a serious install look at Hertz, audioson, zapco, and rainbow. Also focal has different models for how much you want to spend. If you want higher end focals your going to have to spend more. Also do not forget install and labor.

However getting back to the subject at hand you should always run new wires with new speakers. And run a new amp and processor with a bose system to get the best sound out of your new speakers.

wilken370Z 05-27-2014 12:33 PM

Hey guys I know it's prob been said but I am curious if the Polk Audio DB6501's will fit in a 09 base 370z, I know it's been said it'll fit in a 10 nismo but I already bought kicker 6x9s thinking they were right, come to find out I have 6.5" in doors even though my title says its a touring :/ so 1) I need to sell my 6x9s and 2) I want to get some nice aftermarket ones that will fit in with no extra money needing spend for spacers or brackets or anything please!


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