Rear view camera(s)

turbodog · 10-25-2010, 10:41 AM

I don't feel a need for a back-up camera. I do, however, feel side-looking cameras would be very useful. I cannot see if a car is coming when I am backing out of a parking space, until I am way out into the aisle. The rear pillars just completely block the view. Anyone else have this paranoia that they're at risk when backing out of a parking space? Anyone tried side-firing camera(s)? Anyone know of a compact switch to allow selection of the (left-looking, right-looking) cameras (baseband video, I presume?)?

Jeffblue · 10-25-2010, 11:23 AM

I know on the JDM version there is a side view camera option as well as the rear view camera. DeLRo posted some screen shots of how to get to this diagnostic menu, and within that menu allows you to choose 'no camera', rear view camera' or rear and side view camera, so i presume that it is possible. we've got a bunch of people working on getting hte rear view camera for us 09 and 10 guys set in motion, and i know i would, and i assume some others would definitely be interested in getting the side view option as well.

the instructions below are for a 2010, so i'm not sure if you can access the same menu on the '09s. are you an 09 or 10?

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Originally Posted by turbodog

I don't feel a need for a back-up camera. I do, however, feel side-looking cameras would be very useful. I cannot see if a car is coming when I am backing out of a parking space, until I am way out into the aisle. The rear pillars just completely block the view. Anyone else have this paranoia that they're at risk when backing out of a parking space? Anyone tried side-firing camera(s)? Anyone know of a compact switch to allow selection of the (left-looking, right-looking) cameras (baseband video, I presume?)?

do you have an '09 or '10. i know in the JDM camera, from some of the spyshots (i'm looking for them now) you could view the side and rearview cameras. There is a diagnostic menu here: which allows you to set the car to use a rear view camera. one of hte options is

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Originally Posted by DeLRo

Sorry for the late response Jeffblue. I didn't see the first time you asked. PontualZ is correct for the most part. Although I think you can do it with the starter in the ON position or with the engine running. Turn off your radio, hold down setting button and turn volume control counter-clockwise about 3-4 full turns until the screen changes. You will be taken to a diagnostics screen where you can access numerous features.

Here are the camera adjustments....

Once you make changes just turn your radio back on and the system will reboot with the new settings.
If you turned the camera settings to on, then after you reboot and shift into reverse you will see this screen.

I'm currently working with someone who is assisting me in creating a harness to plug in without any mods to the current wiring. As soon as I test it I will get a DIY going and talk to the guy to see if he's interested in producing a few kits to make it easier on everyone. From the work I've seen it'll be as good as OEM with no additional drilling, wiring, or soldering. Just plug-n-play and quite possibly for 1/2 the $$$ from the factory.

turbodog · 10-25-2010, 12:01 PM

I have a 2010, but with a base stereo. I will, someday, be changing the HU to one with camera capability. While I may find one with multiple camera inputs, I may not want to go that high end. Plus, if switching cameras involve more than 1 or 2 button (touch-screen) pushes, I don't think I'd find it practical. So, I was thinking of a single camera input, hopefully activated by selecting reverse gear. Then a switch on the center console to quickly select left or right cameras. A split view screen would be a nice alternative.

But, I am also curious if anyone has actually mounted side view cameras. Where? Have pics of the install?

Thanks!

Jeffblue · 10-25-2010, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by turbodog

I have a 2010, but with a base stereo. I will, someday, be changing the HU to one with camera capability. While I may find one with multiple camera inputs, I may not want to go that high end. Plus, if switching cameras involve more than 1 or 2 button (touch-screen) pushes, I don't think I'd find it practical. So, I was thinking of a single camera input, hopefully activated by selecting reverse gear. Then a switch on the center console to quickly select left or right cameras. A split view screen would be a nice alternative.

But, I am also curious if anyone has actually mounted side view cameras. Where? Have pics of the install?

Thanks!

oh, you have many more options if you go with an aftermarket HU. i'm sure if you do some research you can find something. are you looking for something from the side view mirrors back, ore more like something from the tail lights out to the side?

kenchan · 10-25-2010, 12:14 PM

maybe put a strobe in your JDM fog lamp relayed to your reverse lamp so that people know something's flashing while they drive down the aisle and you backing out... im sure radioshack sells strobe circuits.

bigaudiofanat · 10-25-2010, 12:14 PM

One thing about what you want to do, you will probably have to have a input setup for each camera. I do not think the aftermarket head units can do split screen.

kenchan · 10-25-2010, 12:18 PM

maybe get a school bus extended STOP sign arm...

running out of ideas...

turbodog · 10-25-2010, 03:20 PM

A tail-light install sounds interesting. Side view mirrors are too far forward to help with my (perceived) problem. Drilling holes in the hatch or sail panels would not be my preference (to put it mildly!). Something hanging out the back by the rear license plate is the default, but I'm hoping for something a little more elegant. Hmm, maybe built into a rear spoiler....

I've worked with some production equipment that used a dual prism setup to achieve split vision with one camera.... I'll have to look thru our equipment bone pile

The problem with any warning device is... how to put it... people here are too stupid, self-absorbed, distracted... you name it. They'll be texting away, run into you, then swear it was your fault (hard to dispute if you're backing out of a parking space). If you don't have these problems where you live, then color me jealous!

Jeffblue · 10-25-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by turbodog

A tail-light install sounds interesting. Side view mirrors are too far forward to help with my (perceived) problem. Drilling holes in the hatch or sail panels would not be my preference (to put it mildly!). Something hanging out the back by the rear license plate is the default, but I'm hoping for something a little more elegant.

The problem with any warning device is... how to put it... people here are too stupid, self-absorbed, distracted... you name it. They'll be texting away, run into you, then swear it was your fault (hard to dispute if you're backing out of a parking space). If you don't have these problems where you live, then color me jealous!

most of the rear view cameras are wide angle lenses and allow you to see exactly the angle that you are talking about. sounds like a rear view camera is exactly what you need.

turbodog · 10-25-2010, 03:31 PM

Ah. Time to search for some back-up camera screenshots. Thanks! I didn't think they would have a wide enough FOV, but should have checked first...

Jeffblue · 10-25-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by turbodog

Ah. Time to search for some back-up camera screenshots. Thanks! I didn't think they would have a wide enough FOV, but should have checked first...

yea check out AK's thread. or get in touch with bigaudiofanat. he's done a bunch of installs for cameras and aftermarket headunits and could probably recommend something.

kenchan · 10-25-2010, 04:01 PM

it could be pretty difficult to get the promiximity looking through the small screen because you dont have much reference points in the shot. you'll be able to tell if there's a car coming or not, but how far.... kinda difficult.

you might end up waiting when you could've pulled out.

shumby · 10-25-2010, 04:14 PM

Any of you guys look at hooking up the Navtool to get a backup cam?

Jeffblue · 10-25-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shumby

Any of you guys look at hooking up the Navtool to get a backup cam?

it seems like the perfect solution for '09 guys and is only 300ish. its plug and play. but for 2010's its not plug and play, and it costs 500 dollars

shumby · 10-25-2010, 04:52 PM

sorry did not know it was different for 2010. I installed it in my 2009 G37 and it works perfect. I used it for my HKS Camp 2 Display. But it has 2 inputs. And FYI navtool's bay store is about $100 cheaper

10-25-2010, 10:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
turbodog Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 129 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 15	Rear view camera(s) I don't feel a need for a back-up camera. I do, however, feel side-looking cameras would be very useful. I cannot see if a car is coming when I am backing out of a parking space, until I am way out into the aisle. The rear pillars just completely block the view. Anyone else have this paranoia that they're at risk when backing out of a parking space? Anyone tried side-firing camera(s)? Anyone know of a compact switch to allow selection of the (left-looking, right-looking) cameras (baseband video, I presume?)?

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bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	One thing about what you want to do, you will probably have to have a input setup for each camera. I do not think the aftermarket head units can do split screen. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

10-25-2010, 03:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
turbodog Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 129 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 15	A tail-light install sounds interesting. Side view mirrors are too far forward to help with my (perceived) problem. Drilling holes in the hatch or sail panels would not be my preference (to put it mildly!). Something hanging out the back by the rear license plate is the default, but I'm hoping for something a little more elegant. Hmm, maybe built into a rear spoiler.... I've worked with some production equipment that used a dual prism setup to achieve split vision with one camera.... I'll have to look thru our equipment bone pile The problem with any warning device is... how to put it... people here are too stupid, self-absorbed, distracted... you name it. They'll be texting away, run into you, then swear it was your fault (hard to dispute if you're backing out of a parking space). If you don't have these problems where you live, then color me jealous! Last edited by turbodog; 10-25-2010 at 03:23 PM.

10-25-2010, 04:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	Any of you guys look at hooking up the Navtool to get a backup cam? __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

10-25-2010, 04:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
shumby Captin Canuck Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: with your mom Age: 44 Posts: 6,288 Drives: your sister Rep Power: 237	sorry did not know it was different for 2010. I installed it in my 2009 G37 and it works perfect. I used it for my HKS Camp 2 Display. But it has 2 inputs. And FYI navtool's bay store is about $100 cheaper __________________ Originally Posted by SAM@GTM Engine detonation is not normal and it should never never happen, and whoever told that need to do something else for living . Sam

10-25-2010, 12:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
turbodog Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 129 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 15	I have a 2010, but with a base stereo. I will, someday, be changing the HU to one with camera capability. While I may find one with multiple camera inputs, I may not want to go that high end. Plus, if switching cameras involve more than 1 or 2 button (touch-screen) pushes, I don't think I'd find it practical. So, I was thinking of a single camera input, hopefully activated by selecting reverse gear. Then a switch on the center console to quickly select left or right cameras. A split view screen would be a nice alternative. But, I am also curious if anyone has actually mounted side view cameras. Where? Have pics of the install? Thanks!

10-25-2010, 12:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	maybe put a strobe in your JDM fog lamp relayed to your reverse lamp so that people know something's flashing while they drive down the aisle and you backing out... im sure radioshack sells strobe circuits.

10-25-2010, 12:18 PM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	maybe get a school bus extended STOP sign arm... running out of ideas...

10-25-2010, 03:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
turbodog Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 129 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 15	Ah. Time to search for some back-up camera screenshots. Thanks! I didn't think they would have a wide enough FOV, but should have checked first...

10-25-2010, 04:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	it could be pretty difficult to get the promiximity looking through the small screen because you dont have much reference points in the shot. you'll be able to tell if there's a car coming or not, but how far.... kinda difficult. you might end up waiting when you could've pulled out.

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