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Originally Posted by Osiris BDL99, it would be easier to answer this if you can explain what the "switches" are needed for. My understanding is that the camera view will

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Old 11-08-2010, 02:36 PM   #151 (permalink)
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BDL99, it would be easier to answer this if you can explain what the "switches" are needed for. My understanding is that the camera view will display automatically when the vehicle is put into reverse. What do we need switches for?

and interested in the bypass as well
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BDL99, it would be easier to answer this if you can explain what the "switches" are needed for. My understanding is that the camera view will display automatically when the vehicle is put into reverse. What do we need switches for?
* Four Button Remote
1 = DVD Bypass (toggle on/off) - Allows viewing of Aux video/front camera with handbrake off
2 = Nav Bypass (toggle on/off) - Permits use of functions that are normally disabled while car is moving
3 = Backup Camera Bypass - See camera without engaging reverse
4 = Switch between Aux Video In and Front Camera

The main Kit (all plug and play). This is a preproduction kit but final kit will be very similar.
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BDL99, it would be easier to answer this if you can explain what the "switches" are needed for. My understanding is that the camera view will display automatically when the vehicle is put into reverse. What do we need switches for?
This is why I wanted to keep it separate. For the backup camera no switches are required everything works automatically when the car in placed in reverse and everything required is in the kit.

The question was whether we would offer to include another supplemental kit (the bypass kit) which I made for the GT-R which enabled things like:
Passenger being able to watch auxiliary video feed while car is in motion.
Ability for passenger to enter address or tel number while car is in motion.
Ability to see backup camera without selecting reverse.

It is really something completely separate but you can image that people might want to install both at the same time (especially if they were getting someone else to do the install) and that is where the questions came from.
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do you have pics of the switches/buttons?
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:46 PM   #155 (permalink)
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do you have pics of the switches/buttons?
For the GT-R I used a keyfob remote shown in the picture above. For the 370z we could do the same or use physical switches and that is where I wanted some input.
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* Four Button Remote
1 = DVD Bypass (toggle on/off) - Allows viewing of Aux video/front camera with handbrake off
2 = Nav Bypass (toggle on/off) - Permits use of functions that are normally disabled while car is moving
3 = Backup Camera Bypass - See camera without engaging reverse
4 = Switch between Aux Video In and Front Camera
Well, IMO, could you not combine 1 & 2 into one button? Better yet, why would you need to turn 1 & 2 off? Why not just leave them on?

And to answer your previoius question, i would have to go with:

3) A plug and play harness with switches
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Well, IMO, could you not combine 1 & 2 into one button? Better yet, why would you need to turn 1 & 2 off? Why not just leave them on?

And to answer your previoius question, i would have to go with:

3) A plug and play harness with switches
Regarding combining 1 and 2, others have done this but I don't recommend it for the following reason. When you bypass the speed sensor the navigation system is not as reliable and the location can freeze because the Nav system has no speed reading.

In practical terms this is how it is used (at least for me)
  • When my daughter wants to watch a DVD I have the DVD bypass on for hours at a time and there are no side effects.
  • On rare occasions when we want to do something like add a way point or enter a number. We can activate the Nav-bypass, enter what is needed and de-activate the Nav-bypass. In this case there is very limited effect on the navigation.

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I have already done the speed sensor and parking brake bypasses based on DIYs I found on the forums here.

The parking brake bypass is permanent. You just ground the wire from the parking brake and you can watch the DVDs while moving, no side effects.

Bypassing the VSS sensor allows you to use all the menu items on the nav system while moving. This one needs a switch because when you bypass the VSS the navigation doesn't work well. The system only polls the GPS every 15 or 20 seconds and fills in the rest of the movement based on the speed sensor. So you switch the VSS bypass, use the nav menu, then switch the bypass off so the nav works well.
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2009 guys, please respond to my PM if you haven't done so yet, the 2009 navtool interface group buy is getting held up until i can get 15 responses with email addresses. I have only recieved 5 or 6 responses.
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The parking brake bypass is permanent. You just ground the wire from the parking brake and you can watch the DVDs while moving, no side effects.
i looked for this DIY, all i found was the rear view camera and dvd DIY. I did not see one for grounding the parking brake. Can you post the link?
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I have already done the speed sensor and parking brake bypasses based on DIYs I found on the forums here.

The parking brake bypass is permanent. You just ground the wire from the parking brake and you can watch the DVDs while moving, no side effects.

Bypassing the VSS sensor allows you to use all the menu items on the nav system while moving. This one needs a switch because when you bypass the VSS the navigation doesn't work well. The system only polls the GPS every 15 or 20 seconds and fills in the rest of the movement based on the speed sensor. So you switch the VSS bypass, use the nav menu, then switch the bypass off so the nav works well.
100% Correct, I just like a switch so I can return the car to factory position.

As I said, all I'm really doing here is giving people a solution that doesn't require cutting wires. If you are willing to cut wires then you don't need this. The only addition is the backup camera override and again I will post a DIY for anyone interested (Now I know there is already a DIY on NAV and DVD I will probably just search for it and add to it)

Jeff: Sorry for sidetracking this backup camera thread.
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100% Correct, I just like a switch so I can return the car to factory position.

As I said, all I'm really doing here is giving people a solution that doesn't require cutting wires. If you are willing to cut wires then you don't need this. The only addition is the backup camera override and again I will post a DIY for anyone interested (Now I know there is already a DIY on NAV and DVD I will probably just search for it and add to it)

Jeff: Sorry for sidetracking this backup camera thread.
are you kidding? you are like the Jesus of this thread. don't be sorry. i've PM'd all the 2009 people that responded so that we can get moving with the navtool group buy and only 5 have responded, i feel bad b/c people are waiting, this thread is intended for answering questions and getting people the camera kits and thats exactly what its being used for. all is good.
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I'm for keeping the camera kit separate from the bypass kit if it means getting camera
system two to three weeks sooner and with no splicing or adding switches.
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Hello. I have 2010 w/ Navigation. I was interested in the back-up camera w/ harness. I was also interested in bypass kit. Could you please send me a PM w/ the cost of both? Thanks.
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post deleted...Sheesh! I don't know what happened. I should have refreshed my browser before my last post as there had been about 10 other responses that came up since the post I wanted to reply to. Sorry.
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