Why are Bose systems hated?

Anatoray · 05-21-2009, 01:03 PM

Rolex actually has something unique, which is the Swiss motion that very few brands have, and I believe it is the best Swiss motion rated at 7 ticks per second? Basically it ticks in such a way that it appears to be one constant smooth motion.

I would relate Rolex to Apple more than anything else, due to their amount of control over their marketing. Like Apple, they only sell their products through select retailers, and have strict price control. They never go on sale, and retain their value. Dealers are not allowed to undercut prices, and actually cannot advertise the Rolex name online. Only recently have they been allowed to give small discounts due to the economy hurting sales, but it's nothing spectacular.

Like some have said though, they are not the best, just the best marketed high end watch. I am biased towards Paddock, which I guess you could say is the TRUE Bose of watches. 250,000 dollars for a watch face with a LEATHER band. Now there's a rip off for a name.

codpet · 07-19-2009, 05:57 PM

My Eclipse has a 650 Watt Rockford Fosgate system in it, and it sounds like trash.

I want to see Nissan get Lexicon to work for them. My friend has that new Genesis, and the sound system in that car sounds unreal.

bigaudiofanat · 07-19-2009, 07:51 PM

Bose is junk , all it is when you buy it is your buying hype. If you notice when you start turning up the volume the bass starts fading out than other stuff as well. This is not what a normal system should do the only reason they do this is because they know that there speakers can not handle normal audio at higher volumes. I could choose any aftermarket system setup and it would destroy the bose system. There not that good end of story.

codpet · 07-19-2009, 09:18 PM

Yep, I'm going to have JL's put into my Z. :-)

I'll have someone else do it though, an audio shop. I don't have the exp., nor the time to tinker with that stuff.

tonmed123 · 07-19-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Bose is junk , all it is when you buy it is your buying hype. If you notice when you start turning up the volume the bass starts fading out than other stuff as well. This is not what a normal system should do the only reason they do this is because they know that there speakers can not handle normal audio at higher volumes. I could choose any aftermarket system setup and it would destroy the bose system. There not that good end of story.

what controls that function of fading sound out. is it in the HU or the amp or both? I agree I should be able to even max out the volume on a GOOD system. You should be able to at least feel the bass thumping. At least I could when I put a system with subs in my brother's Saturn and subs were farther away than this car.

bigaudiofanat · 07-19-2009, 11:22 PM

It is the bose amp what it dose is read the incoming signal from the head unit and with a pre fixed program that tells it when the speaker will distort and at what volume determines what it needs to fad out. Our old bose system in the living room did it systems at the store do it when the demo them, and it is the gayest thing I have ever seen.

nightfire · 07-20-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by awesomez

32 kbit/s – MW (AM) quality
96 kbit/s – FM quality
128–160 kbit/s – Standard Bitrate quality - probaby stock 370Z system
192 kbit/s – DAB (Digital Audio Broadcasting) XM (but not quite. depends on channel and reception)
224–320 kbit/s – Near CD quality

For me CDs do not play anywhere near 300 kbps or CF Card quality for some reason. This is the CF card I bought: Newegg.com - Kingston 4GB Compact Flash (CF) Flash Card Model CF/4GB - Flash Memory
You will also need a card reader and save high quality MP3s to it. Do a lossless rip as theDreamer said from a CD or download on internet. Plug it in and the Bose system becomes alive. The switching between songs is instant, not like with Musicbox or CD or XM where there is a little lag. Full text is available including file name on the screen if you have navigation.

I'm not familiar at all with CF cards or card readers etc. So you put the CF card in the card reader and then the card reader has plugs on it that plugs into the car just like an MP3 player? Also how are the downloaded songs transferred to the card? I'm guessing the card reader plugs right into a computer as well?

tonmed123 · 07-20-2009, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

It is the bose amp what it dose is read the incoming signal from the head unit and with a pre fixed program that tells it when the speaker will distort and at what volume determines what it needs to fad out. Our old bose system in the living room did it systems at the store do it when the demo them, and it is the gayest thing I have ever seen.

I agree they should

with that!

bigaudiofanat · 07-20-2009, 10:50 PM

Ya people think it is a great system because it never distorts I laugh when I hear that. I have went to the bose store and listen to the demo every time and every time I laugh, the scenes when something is blowing up or something like that there is like no bass. The bose system weather it is in your car or home is not as good as you think it is. Sorry but it is just the truth.

nightfire · 07-21-2009, 09:55 AM

We're in the process right now of getting a simply, hopefully not too expensive 5.1 surround sound system and we were thinking about getting the bose until we read the reviews around the web about how it has no base. Instead we're going with a custom B&W set up. Should be nice

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 10:11 AM

I would go with a onkyo receiver, a set of polk tower speakers and bookshelf rears on rear in cealing speakers they work great.

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by molamann

I don't know too much about car stereo systems, but I do know people loves to bash the Bose systems. So I'm wondering what the reasons behind it is... because I'm guessing Bose is the apple of car stereos? I mean do they have decent products but you can get more bang for buck with other brands? I'm not an audiophile by any means but only problem I have with my Bose system on the 370z is that the volume cap limit seem extremely low.

LOL I noticed you edited your message about the volume limiter. Anyway have you found your answer yet? Not being a jerk just asking.

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Anatoray

Rolex actually has something unique, which is the Swiss motion that very few brands have, and I believe it is the best Swiss motion rated at 7 ticks per second? Basically it ticks in such a way that it appears to be one constant smooth motion.

I would relate Rolex to Apple more than anything else, due to their amount of control over their marketing. Like Apple, they only sell their products through select retailers, and have strict price control. They never go on sale, and retain their value. Dealers are not allowed to undercut prices, and actually cannot advertise the Rolex name online. Only recently have they been allowed to give small discounts due to the economy hurting sales, but it's nothing spectacular.

Like some have said though, they are not the best, just the best marketed high end watch. I am biased towards Paddock, which I guess you could say is the TRUE Bose of watches. 250,000 dollars for a watch face with a LEATHER band. Now there's a rip off for a name.

I have to highly disagree, apple and the apple ipod have been taking over the market, the ipod is the number one rated mp3 player and has been for over 6 years now. They hold there value tremendously and also run a lot longer than other cheap brands. IMO it is the best one out there I also own a apple powerbook 64 laptop, it is 3 years old had 0 trouble with it and it has been dropped 3 times by myself. My next purchase will be a new one, once you try an apple out and find out how well they are made you will not want to go back and you will see were spending the extra money is well worth it. Just my 0.02

nightfire · 07-21-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I would go with a onkyo receiver, a set of polk tower speakers and bookshelf rears on rear in cealing speakers they work great.

Not sure what recevier we're going to use yet but we have two towers that are really good ones from a few years back (B&W) so we're matching the center speaker to it, then getting two similar ones for the sides that will be in wall.

bigaudiofanat · 07-21-2009, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by molamann

So I can upgrade the speakers/sub to another manufacturer or do I have to stick with Bose products?

Even if you upgrade your speakers that bose amp will STILL cut the frequency out when you start turning it up.

That is yet another reason I do not recommend spending the extra money for the bose system.

07-19-2009, 07:51 PM	#48 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Bose is junk , all it is when you buy it is your buying hype. If you notice when you start turning up the volume the bass starts fading out than other stuff as well. This is not what a normal system should do the only reason they do this is because they know that there speakers can not handle normal audio at higher volumes. I could choose any aftermarket system setup and it would destroy the bose system. There not that good end of story. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/ Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 07-19-2009 at 08:07 PM.

07-19-2009, 11:22 PM	#51 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	It is the bose amp what it dose is read the incoming signal from the head unit and with a pre fixed program that tells it when the speaker will distort and at what volume determines what it needs to fad out. Our old bose system in the living room did it systems at the store do it when the demo them, and it is the gayest thing I have ever seen. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

07-20-2009, 10:50 PM	#54 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Ya people think it is a great system because it never distorts I laugh when I hear that. I have went to the bose store and listen to the demo every time and every time I laugh, the scenes when something is blowing up or something like that there is like no bass. The bose system weather it is in your car or home is not as good as you think it is. Sorry but it is just the truth. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

07-21-2009, 10:11 AM	#56 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I would go with a onkyo receiver, a set of polk tower speakers and bookshelf rears on rear in cealing speakers they work great. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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05-21-2009, 01:03 PM	#46 (permalink)
Anatoray Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 794 Drives: 09 BLK 370Z Rep Power: 17	Rolex actually has something unique, which is the Swiss motion that very few brands have, and I believe it is the best Swiss motion rated at 7 ticks per second? Basically it ticks in such a way that it appears to be one constant smooth motion. I would relate Rolex to Apple more than anything else, due to their amount of control over their marketing. Like Apple, they only sell their products through select retailers, and have strict price control. They never go on sale, and retain their value. Dealers are not allowed to undercut prices, and actually cannot advertise the Rolex name online. Only recently have they been allowed to give small discounts due to the economy hurting sales, but it's nothing spectacular. Like some have said though, they are not the best, just the best marketed high end watch. I am biased towards Paddock, which I guess you could say is the TRUE Bose of watches. 250,000 dollars for a watch face with a LEATHER band. Now there's a rip off for a name.

07-19-2009, 05:57 PM	#47 (permalink)
codpet Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32 Drives: Eclipse 2007 GT Rep Power: 16	My Eclipse has a 650 Watt Rockford Fosgate system in it, and it sounds like trash. I want to see Nissan get Lexicon to work for them. My friend has that new Genesis, and the sound system in that car sounds unreal.

07-19-2009, 09:18 PM	#49 (permalink)
codpet Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 32 Drives: Eclipse 2007 GT Rep Power: 16	Yep, I'm going to have JL's put into my Z. :-) I'll have someone else do it though, an audio shop. I don't have the exp., nor the time to tinker with that stuff.

07-21-2009, 09:55 AM	#55 (permalink)
nightfire Base Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 178 Drives: Mk IV Jetta turbo Rep Power: 267	We're in the process right now of getting a simply, hopefully not too expensive 5.1 surround sound system and we were thinking about getting the bose until we read the reviews around the web about how it has no base. Instead we're going with a custom B&W set up. Should be nice