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Originally Posted by theDreamer Actually, yes/no. The iPod has taken over the market but not because of it being good or "better" than others. It is because of iTunes and

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Old 07-21-2009, 02:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Actually, yes/no.
The iPod has taken over the market but not because of it being good or "better" than others. It is because of iTunes and the ease of use for the average consumers. The iPod was very close to dieing just like a few previous MP3 players before it, but it brought iTunes and the music industry to the table and everything changed. They were the earliest to centralize the control of buying/syncing music, and controlled it so well that people thought it was perfect.

Yet now people can buy music from many online retailers, just drag and drop music onto an MP3 player with no thought of format. The idea of iTunes will continue because of the iPhone & the applications, but when I am only able to sync my music with one computer I will pass. I can take my Archos to any computer, drag the music on or off and add anything else I want very quickly, and all without having to install any extra software to do so.

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On the comment about spending 10k on a BOSE system years ago, that would have been money well spent then. They sold out in the past few years and have gone down hill, quickly. Now I am not saying they are horrible, but for the price per dollar you can purchase much better sound systems. Bose quality has fallen over the past years while the industry has moved forward to better technology and higher standards. Bose took a new turn with size, and found that people like small out of the way sound systems, but can lack the ear for quality.
They've been horrible for at least the past 20 years...

Polk Audio is a better brand, as is Infinity Reference (really good), Cerwin Vega...and that's just the stuff you'll find in stores (somewhat)...that's not even mentioning some of the REALLY high end stuff. Crap where you spend around 15K/speaker.
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They've been horrible for at least the past 20 years...

Polk Audio is a better brand, as is Infinity Reference (really good), Cerwin Vega...and that's just the stuff you'll find in stores (somewhat)...that's not even mentioning some of the REALLY high end stuff. Crap where you spend around 15K/speaker.
Not true, 20 years ago they were a very competitive brand, since 2000 they changed their focus of their target audience from enthusiasts to people with deep pockets and no ear. In the end they are making more money, but have lost respect of the audio community. I have a system from 95 or so and it does not beat audio equipment I would buy today, but from the time period it was very competitive for its price.
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Bose is junk , all it is when you buy it is your buying hype. If you notice when you start turning up the volume the bass starts fading out than other stuff as well. This is not what a normal system should do the only reason they do this is because they know that there speakers can not handle normal audio at higher volumes. I could choose any aftermarket system setup and it would destroy the bose system. There not that good end of story.
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Yep, I'm going to have JL's put into my Z. :-)

I'll have someone else do it though, an audio shop. I don't have the exp., nor the time to tinker with that stuff.
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Bose is junk , all it is when you buy it is your buying hype. If you notice when you start turning up the volume the bass starts fading out than other stuff as well. This is not what a normal system should do the only reason they do this is because they know that there speakers can not handle normal audio at higher volumes. I could choose any aftermarket system setup and it would destroy the bose system. There not that good end of story.
what controls that function of fading sound out. is it in the HU or the amp or both? I agree I should be able to even max out the volume on a GOOD system. You should be able to at least feel the bass thumping. At least I could when I put a system with subs in my brother's Saturn and subs were farther away than this car.
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It is the bose amp what it dose is read the incoming signal from the head unit and with a pre fixed program that tells it when the speaker will distort and at what volume determines what it needs to fad out. Our old bose system in the living room did it systems at the store do it when the demo them, and it is the gayest thing I have ever seen.
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It is the bose amp what it dose is read the incoming signal from the head unit and with a pre fixed program that tells it when the speaker will distort and at what volume determines what it needs to fad out. Our old bose system in the living room did it systems at the store do it when the demo them, and it is the gayest thing I have ever seen.
I agree they should with that!
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Ya people think it is a great system because it never distorts I laugh when I hear that. I have went to the bose store and listen to the demo every time and every time I laugh, the scenes when something is blowing up or something like that there is like no bass. The bose system weather it is in your car or home is not as good as you think it is. Sorry but it is just the truth.
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We're in the process right now of getting a simply, hopefully not too expensive 5.1 surround sound system and we were thinking about getting the bose until we read the reviews around the web about how it has no base. Instead we're going with a custom B&W set up. Should be nice
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I would go with a onkyo receiver, a set of polk tower speakers and bookshelf rears on rear in cealing speakers they work great.
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Not sure what recevier we're going to use yet but we have two towers that are really good ones from a few years back (B&W) so we're matching the center speaker to it, then getting two similar ones for the sides that will be in wall.
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Sorry let's not hijack the thread making a new one in the lounge
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Not sure what recevier we're going to use yet but we have two towers that are really good ones from a few years back (B&W) so we're matching the center speaker to it, then getting two similar ones for the sides that will be in wall.
Don't know what your budget is, but I'd look seriously at Denon, Marantz and Harman Kardon receivers. JMO
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I don't know too much about car stereo systems, but I do know people loves to bash the Bose systems. So I'm wondering what the reasons behind it is... because I'm guessing Bose is the apple of car stereos? I mean do they have decent products but you can get more bang for buck with other brands? I'm not an audiophile by any means but only problem I have with my Bose system on the 370z is that the volume cap limit seem extremely low.
LOL I noticed you edited your message about the volume limiter. Anyway have you found your answer yet? Not being a jerk just asking.
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