Remote Start for 6MT? (Alarm Installers, chime in).

BalanBro · 09-25-2010, 09:55 AM

So I used to be a mobile electronics and accessory installer many years back, and the general rule was remote starters are best left for A/T cars only. I think we all heard the stories about what can happen on M/T cars.

While staring at my dash one day, I noticed the the SRM sensor is capable of detening when the car is in gear or in neutral. Has anyone entertained the idea of using the output of this sensor to interface with the Neurtal Safety Switch connection on the remote starter units? It may not be as simple as tapping a wire, but this could solve any potential safety issues.

bigaudiofanat · 09-25-2010, 10:05 AM

New alarm systems with remote start that are installed in a manual transition you have to install a wire that will not allow the car to start unless it is in neutral and the e brake is on. If the car does not detect this it will not start. Make sure you go to a good installer though some skip this and can end up going threw a wall.
Welcome to the new technology lol.

Cjanik · 09-26-2010, 01:00 PM

been there done that, accidentally started my car in 1st gear a few times, lol

fortunately it just jerks the car about a foot forward then stalls (kinda like letting the clutch go fast without giving gas)

Would I ever do it again? yes....but as big said...safety features are a must.

Jeffblue · 09-26-2010, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

New alarm systems with remote start that are installed in a manual transition you have to install a wire that will not allow the car to start unless it is in neutral and the e brake is on. If the car does not detect this it will not start. Make sure you go to a good installer though some skip this and can end up going threw a wall.
Welcome to the new technology lol.

yea i heard this as well. so it seems lke all these horror stories of MT and Remote start are the result of the shops negligence.

bigaudiofanat · 09-26-2010, 03:22 PM

Yep that's why I do my own alarms I do not trust half of them to do something tight. If curse you could always yell them you want to see it not start in a gear before you leave.

Supergoji · 09-26-2010, 04:31 PM

yes make sure there is a neutral switch and brake switch.
i have a clifford installed on my Z32 and it works fine.

kenchan · 09-27-2010, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Welcome to the new technology (from yesterday) lol.

fixed.

Jeffblue · 09-27-2010, 11:00 AM

so why was the consensus in the other thread that remote start is a bad idea in MT. sounds to me like remote start in a MT installed by an incompetent shop is a bad idea.

vipor · 09-27-2010, 11:05 AM

The hardest part about remote starting these Zs is the factory "alarm." You need to simulate the key, disarm the alarm, and make sure your baby stays locked.

Also, think about the fact that once it's running and it thinks your key is in the car, you can just press the button on the door and unlock it......

Jeffblue · 09-27-2010, 11:18 AM

yea, i didn't personally go for it b/c i dont really mind sitting in the car for a few mins while it gets warmed up. i usually let it run for a min even on a lovely 70 degree day. and plus, i'd rather have spent the extra 300+ on mods or just keep it. Remote start is definitely cool and useful in certain climates. But honestly, i live in NY. My feeling is if you need remote start in your Z because its so damn cold, you probably shouldn't be driving it at that time of year anyawy.

vipor · 09-27-2010, 11:32 AM

I'll get it because I want a 2-way alarm, and I can install it myself. I've put it off over a year already, but maybe it'll be a Christmas present to myself. I'll be adding window automation as well so it will automatically roll up my windows upon arming. Remote hatch release will be nice also.

Jeffblue · 09-27-2010, 11:33 AM

i have the 2 way alarm/tilt sensor/audio glass break sensor and the hatch release. I cheaped out on the remote start. i think i'm just trying to make myself feel better about it. I hate seeing that button and knowing it doesn't do anything

fuct · 09-27-2010, 11:35 AM

i want the opposite Jeffblue. i want my inside ice cold when i get in!

Jeffblue · 09-27-2010, 11:36 AM

hah yea, sometimes i like to just get in naked in the winter, see how long my balls can handle the cold seat.

vipor · 09-27-2010, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue

hah yea, sometimes i like to just get in naked in the winter, see how long my balls can handle the cold seat.

That's why I have cloth

09-25-2010, 09:55 AM	#1 (permalink)
BalanBro Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 318 Drives: 40th Anniv. 370Z Rep Power: 1111	Remote Start for 6MT? (Alarm Installers, chime in). So I used to be a mobile electronics and accessory installer many years back, and the general rule was remote starters are best left for A/T cars only. I think we all heard the stories about what can happen on M/T cars. While staring at my dash one day, I noticed the the SRM sensor is capable of detening when the car is in gear or in neutral. Has anyone entertained the idea of using the output of this sensor to interface with the Neurtal Safety Switch connection on the remote starter units? It may not be as simple as tapping a wire, but this could solve any potential safety issues. __________________ 2012 Mercedes C63 AMG P31 Sedan, ROW, aFe, Eurocharged Dyno Tune. 438WHP/415WTQ 2010 SOLD: 40th Anniversary 370z

09-25-2010, 10:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	New alarm systems with remote start that are installed in a manual transition you have to install a wire that will not allow the car to start unless it is in neutral and the e brake is on. If the car does not detect this it will not start. Make sure you go to a good installer though some skip this and can end up going threw a wall. Welcome to the new technology lol. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-26-2010, 03:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Yep that's why I do my own alarms I do not trust half of them to do something tight. If curse you could always yell them you want to see it not start in a gear before you leave. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-27-2010, 11:05 AM	#9 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	The hardest part about remote starting these Zs is the factory "alarm." You need to simulate the key, disarm the alarm, and make sure your baby stays locked. Also, think about the fact that once it's running and it thinks your key is in the car, you can just press the button on the door and unlock it...... __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

09-27-2010, 11:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
vipor A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Euless, TX [ DFW ] Age: 42 Posts: 13,531 Drives: Nismo 09-0183 QAB Rep Power: 49	I'll get it because I want a 2-way alarm, and I can install it myself. I've put it off over a year already, but maybe it'll be a Christmas present to myself. I'll be adding window automation as well so it will automatically roll up my windows upon arming. Remote hatch release will be nice also. __________________ 2009 NISMO # 0193 \| QAB \| Albums! \| 05.04.10 (Dynojet) 291.94hp/248.28tq Oil Cooler (DIY) \| Custom Headlights \| GTSPEC Braces \| F.I. Long Tube Headers

09-26-2010, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cjanik Track Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 578 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 17	been there done that, accidentally started my car in 1st gear a few times, lol fortunately it just jerks the car about a foot forward then stalls (kinda like letting the clutch go fast without giving gas) Would I ever do it again? yes....but as big said...safety features are a must.

09-26-2010, 04:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
Supergoji Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Westchester NY Age: 36 Posts: 311 Drives: Z32tt / Supra tt Rep Power: 257	yes make sure there is a neutral switch and brake switch. i have a clifford installed on my Z32 and it works fine.

09-27-2010, 11:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	so why was the consensus in the other thread that remote start is a bad idea in MT. sounds to me like remote start in a MT installed by an incompetent shop is a bad idea.

09-27-2010, 11:18 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	yea, i didn't personally go for it b/c i dont really mind sitting in the car for a few mins while it gets warmed up. i usually let it run for a min even on a lovely 70 degree day. and plus, i'd rather have spent the extra 300+ on mods or just keep it. Remote start is definitely cool and useful in certain climates. But honestly, i live in NY. My feeling is if you need remote start in your Z because its so damn cold, you probably shouldn't be driving it at that time of year anyawy.

09-27-2010, 11:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	i have the 2 way alarm/tilt sensor/audio glass break sensor and the hatch release. I cheaped out on the remote start. i think i'm just trying to make myself feel better about it. I hate seeing that button and knowing it doesn't do anything

09-27-2010, 11:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	i want the opposite Jeffblue. i want my inside ice cold when i get in!

09-27-2010, 11:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	hah yea, sometimes i like to just get in naked in the winter, see how long my balls can handle the cold seat.

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