Over powering and under powering are both bad when you under power you not even going to have enough power to really move the woofer, and you can actually damage the speakers that way. Now if you want to talk tube amps than 8 watts from there is much more efficient than 80 watts from a regular amp in home audio talk that is.

Actually the post originated from a gentleman who currently has a Nismo and is looking to replace the speakers and then eventually replace the headunit. Others chimed in saying that they would replace the headunit first. I stated that the recommendation for replacing the speakers first is so of a business tactic because its easier to sell a customer on a $100-200 set of speakers and then later upselling them on a new headunit instead of trying to initially sell them on a $1000-1500 headunit. A little business common sense would be obvious to anyone with a little knowledge. I certainly would expect a "professional" installer to know such practices!

Now now now.. I thought you and 90 ST were the experts. Considering all your combined years you guys just seem to know everything!

Dude you are so far out of your league here, I suggest you go back to reading your magazines.

For the record this is not a personal attack so don't give me crap, I will now leave the forum before I get banned. Thank you and goodnight!

Gee wizzz.. i heard that before!

If you read the link i put up, you would find a good sales/installer wouldn't sell him a HU, he would do like the OP wants to do and swap out the speakers, then add an amp and sub...leaving that $1500 HU on the shelf for some one with a tape deck.

All with in reason, i'm not saying you'll want to run a set of Utopia BE's with a stock HU, but it would sound better then swaping the HU and running the stock speakers...some of the cleanest home amps are lower power...i would rather have a 25x2 clean amp then a 50x2 crapy amp.

And you would read the original post you would notice that the OP has a Nismo with has the base head unit which is a total piece of junk garbage, not some top level OEM digital media player. If the OP was driving a Touring with Nav I would be more inclined to agree with you!

If you read the link they don't use a high end OEM unit, and it's from a few years ago. a Ford and GM unit/Delco not even a Bose...

I could care less what the link says and yes i did read through it. A junk head unit is going to sound like junk and no amount of you saying otherwise is going to convince me. Lets just chalk it up to agreeing to disagree. And i don't care that you have 20+ years of installing experience. You're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine.

i'm not looking to fight, i'm just stating some facts...