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90 ST 09-16-2010 09:38 PM

[QUOTE=bigaudiofanat;725013]The improvement would be with the stock speakers with new head unit. They give more power to the speakers rather than a stock unit only putting out around 5-10 watts.[/QUO

you should maybe go and try it for real, more power doesn't always mean better sound.
But after 20 years in the inductry what would i know...

DeEePiDDy 09-16-2010 09:44 PM

20 years would mean u know a lot of old information!

Juleous 09-16-2010 10:03 PM

[QUOTE=90 ST;725017]
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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 725013)
The improvement would be with the stock speakers with new head unit. They give more power to the speakers rather than a stock unit only putting out around 5-10 watts.[/QUO

you should maybe go and try it for real, more power doesn't always mean better sound.
But after 20 years in the inductry what would i know...

:iagree:90 knows a ton more than any of you guys. Oh wait better listen to Matt as he is the expert.:rolleyes:

90 ST 09-16-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DeEePiDDy (Post 725019)
20 years would mean u know a lot of old information!

Changing the HU fist is "old information" OEM HU are a lot better now days.
Think about why HU sales are down and more companies are making OEM intergration pieces for the stock HU...You guys all seem to think the HU is the problem, do you have any idea how many time i have pulled the OEM unit to find made by Pioneer, Clarion, Alpine, Rockford on them, but speakers...almost never say who made them, guess why...There crap and no one wants to put their name on them.

Now don't get me wrong, change the HU if you can or want more features, but don't do it cause you think the sound is going to be better, it's NOT the weakest link.

Juleous 09-16-2010 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 725036)
Changing the HU fist is "old information" OEM HU are a lot better now days.

Oh so what your saying is if I say swapped out my old stock cassette unit for a aftermarket CD unit I would notice a difference? But if I said I upgraded my existing OEM digital media player for another aftermarket digital media unit I might not notice such a big difference?

Hun weird I never would have thought that. I must be old:ugh2:

DeEePiDDy 09-16-2010 10:15 PM

Gee wizz... I didnt know the Nismo had a digital media player! maybe if I owned one like you I would have know... oh wait.. oops!

90 ST 09-16-2010 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Juleous (Post 725038)
Oh so what your saying is if I say swapped out my old stock cassette unit for a aftermarket CD unit I would notice a difference? But if I said I upgraded my existing OEM digital media player for another aftermarket digital media unit I might not notice such a big difference?

Hun weird I never would have thought that. I must be old:ugh2:

Yep, old tape deck=crap, aftm CD player=good.
Yep again, New DMU would be good, and the only major advantage would be features, SQ would be very close.

:tup:

Juleous 09-16-2010 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 90 ST (Post 725043)
Yep, old tape deck=crap, aftm CD player=good.
Yep again, New DMU would be good, and the only major advantage would be features, SQ would be very close.

:tup:

Someone who speaks the truth.

90 ST 09-16-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Juleous (Post 725045)
Someone who speaks the truth.

Thank you, finally some one who gets it! ;)

DeEePiDDy 09-16-2010 10:29 PM

Yup! Amazing stock Digital Media Unit in that Nismo!

90 ST 09-16-2010 10:34 PM

Heres a read for you, from test done a few years ago:
http://www.davidnavone.com/heresHow/...%20Decks21.pdf

And that is with a basic, good, but basic LOC, now think about a good one like the RE-Q or LC-6 or a Bit One...

Juleous 09-16-2010 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeEePiDDy (Post 725048)
Yup! Amazing stock Digital Media Unit in that Nismo!

I think the point that was being made was replacing the stock HU vs stock speakers which will improve sound quality more, also that putting more power to stock speaker doesn't work so well compared to putting lower clean power to higher quality speakers.

The choice should be odvious for someone with a little knowledge.:stirthepot:

bigaudiofanat 09-16-2010 10:51 PM

If you do not have the power for new speakers they are not going to be worth the time to put them in, as aposed to a new head unit.

Juleous 09-16-2010 10:56 PM

Little story my dad taught me about amplifier power, my first car Datsun 200 I was shopping for an amp for my new 6x9's max power was like 150watt and I wanted all of that so I was out shopping for this new amp. I show my dad what I was going to get and he laughed at me, he asked why would you need that much power going to those little speakers? I said I don't know isn't more power better? He laughs again at me and says you should buy this little 20watt amp right here! Now I am like yea right, he says I will buy you what ever amp you want if you try this little 20 watt orion amp. I am like sure thinking I am getting what ever amp I want anyway. So we hook this thing up and I could not believe the sound I got from two 6x9 and less than 40watts total power it blew me away. Let's just say I didn't get the amp I wanted and kept that Orion amp for several years, wish I had it today. Funny how it always ends up that my pops was right.

Juleous 09-16-2010 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 725068)
If you do not have the power for new speakers they are not going to be worth the time to put them in, as aposed to a new head unit.


The expert has spoken, end of discussion.:tiphat:


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