Rear Speaker size

kenchan · 08-27-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I disagree

no one cars, big. im sorry.

bigaudiofanat · 08-27-2010, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan

no one cars, big. im sorry.

Cars lol,

No biggie

Just giving my experience with these cars.

kenchan · 08-27-2010, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Cars lol,

No biggie

Just giving my experience with these cars.

hahaha, you couldn't come up with a comeback so you used my type-o.

jpit · 08-27-2010, 06:21 PM

Measurements show that in a typical concert hall only about 11% of the sound is heard directly from the instruments while 89% is reflected sound that adds depth. I added 3 1/2" Infinities in the rear and think that the rear speakers add a depth you can't get when you are sitting very close (and therefore hear less reflected sound) to the two speakers up front.

bigaudiofanat · 08-27-2010, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpit

Measurements show that in a typical concert hall only about 11% of the sound is heard directly from the instruments while 89% is reflected sound that adds depth. I added 3 1/2" Infinities in the rear and think that the rear speakers add a depth you can't get when you are sitting very close (and therefore hear less reflected sound) to the two speakers up front.

So every single SQ competition running just a front stage is wrong?

Recording artists record their music in two channel stereo not concert halls or 5.1 Dolby surround. Music was ment to be heard in two channel stereo.

jpit · 08-27-2010, 07:25 PM

I don't know about SQ competitions but you statement about concert hall sound coming only from the front was wrong - reflective sound is very important. It is why music sounds better in a concert hall than listening to it in someone's field. Personally, I think a concert recorded in 5.1 dolby has much more depth than one recorded in stereo.

bigaudiofanat · 08-27-2010, 07:27 PM

Actually even concert halls "good ones at least" have absorption material behind the seating to restrict reflectivity of audio so do really good HT systems.

sonic370 · 08-27-2010, 09:48 PM

Sorry i gotta side with bigfoot on this one. with the sub or subs in the rear
that is all the feel you need.

the 350's where right behind the headrests and there were over powered bad.
the only way to blend them was to adjust fade on the fronts way down so the rears could be heard.

in a bigger sound stage maybe, in a z i don't think so

unless someone mounts to 6x9s in each rear quarter panel.

speedaudio64 · 08-27-2010, 10:05 PM

I as well am with big on this. The z wether it be a 350z or the newer 370z, they have small cabin space and there is no need for rear speakers. Sorry to anyone that disagree's it is your car do what you want but for me and people that I do work for rear speakers in a z sounds terrible, as big pointed out they distort quickly and if your answer to that is to fade them out than why bother having them.

bigaudiofanat · 08-27-2010, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370

Sorry i gotta side with bigfoot on this one. with the sub or subs in the rear
that is all the feel you need.

the 350's where right behind the headrests and there were over powered bad.
the only way to blend them was to adjust fade on the fronts way down so the rears could be heard.

in a bigger sound stage maybe, in a z i don't think so

unless someone mounts to 6x9s in each rear quarter panel.

Hey now I do have big feet

Oscar135 · 08-28-2010, 03:01 PM

I've been researching the Focal series speakers and came across these components. Has anyone experienced these in the back of the Z? They could be a nice option.

bigaudiofanat · 08-28-2010, 03:10 PM

If you install components in the back you are going to have to mount the tweeters in a new location the speakers back there are coaxial's and do not have a spot for tweeters, I would look for a pair of coaxial's back there if you must have rears. Otherwise your asking for way to much in the highs department.

Juleous · 08-28-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Oscar135

I've been researching the Focal series speakers and came across these components. Has anyone experienced these in the back of the Z? They could be a nice option.

Them look nice but I agree with Matt, you should go Coax in that location and spend more on the front set. I am also going all Focal, trying to decide if the Power series is that much better than the Poly series. Not sure, I was also thinking trying to do a three way setup for the fronts. Buy some new front kick panels do a fiberglass enclosure 4" in there, that would be a fun project.

bigaudiofanat · 08-28-2010, 05:46 PM

Go with the poly, much better response also good luck getting 3 ways in a z, with your legs being right up against the panel I would stay with 2 way, even if you put a mid in the dash it would just look to stupid not to mention the steal me factor. I am running 3 ways in my civic and I had a hard enough time finding a place for the mids. As long as you are looking at focal give image dynamics a look as well, more tame tweeters and smoother as well.

metz · 08-28-2010, 05:50 PM

Im doing a 3way setup in mine, Morel Elate's. I havent decided fully on positioning yet, but the 3" fits in the dash so it will probably be upfront. Ive built alot of kicks, but in this car I think to get the positioning right it will be too intrusive on my feet.

08-27-2010, 06:21 PM	#19 (permalink)
jpit Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 440 Drives: 370Z Tour MT w/Spt Rep Power: 16	Measurements show that in a typical concert hall only about 11% of the sound is heard directly from the instruments while 89% is reflected sound that adds depth. I added 3 1/2" Infinities in the rear and think that the rear speakers add a depth you can't get when you are sitting very close (and therefore hear less reflected sound) to the two speakers up front. Last edited by jpit; 08-27-2010 at 06:36 PM.

08-27-2010, 07:27 PM	#22 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Actually even concert halls "good ones at least" have absorption material behind the seating to restrict reflectivity of audio so do really good HT systems. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/ Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 08-27-2010 at 07:31 PM.

08-27-2010, 10:05 PM	#24 (permalink)
speedaudio64 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 18 Drives: None right now Rep Power: 16	I as well am with big on this. The z wether it be a 350z or the newer 370z, they have small cabin space and there is no need for rear speakers. Sorry to anyone that disagree's it is your car do what you want but for me and people that I do work for rear speakers in a z sounds terrible, as big pointed out they distort quickly and if your answer to that is to fade them out than why bother having them. Last edited by speedaudio64; 08-27-2010 at 10:13 PM.

08-28-2010, 03:10 PM	#27 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	If you install components in the back you are going to have to mount the tweeters in a new location the speakers back there are coaxial's and do not have a spot for tweeters, I would look for a pair of coaxial's back there if you must have rears. Otherwise your asking for way to much in the highs department. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

08-28-2010, 05:46 PM	#29 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Go with the poly, much better response also good luck getting 3 ways in a z, with your legs being right up against the panel I would stay with 2 way, even if you put a mid in the dash it would just look to stupid not to mention the steal me factor. I am running 3 ways in my civic and I had a hard enough time finding a place for the mids. As long as you are looking at focal give image dynamics a look as well, more tame tweeters and smoother as well. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

08-27-2010, 07:25 PM	#21 (permalink)
jpit Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Washington State Posts: 440 Drives: 370Z Tour MT w/Spt Rep Power: 16	I don't know about SQ competitions but you statement about concert hall sound coming only from the front was wrong - reflective sound is very important. It is why music sounds better in a concert hall than listening to it in someone's field. Personally, I think a concert recorded in 5.1 dolby has much more depth than one recorded in stereo.

08-27-2010, 09:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
sonic370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: Orange Texas Posts: 1,574 Drives: 09 370Z Sports PGK Rep Power: 18	Sorry i gotta side with bigfoot on this one. with the sub or subs in the rear that is all the feel you need. the 350's where right behind the headrests and there were over powered bad. the only way to blend them was to adjust fade on the fronts way down so the rears could be heard. in a bigger sound stage maybe, in a z i don't think so unless someone mounts to 6x9s in each rear quarter panel.

08-28-2010, 05:50 PM	#30 (permalink)
metz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 347 Drives: 05 Roush, 2010 40th Rep Power: 15	Im doing a 3way setup in mine, Morel Elate's. I havent decided fully on positioning yet, but the 3" fits in the dash so it will probably be upfront. Ive built alot of kicks, but in this car I think to get the positioning right it will be too intrusive on my feet.

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