Headunit Research - Recommendations Please

LinPark · 06-22-2010, 05:29 PM

Been doing some research on these and have managed to completely confuse myself. Mostly using Crutchfield for my comparisons and the Kenwood units seem to be all over the place in functionality vs age vs price. For instance, with the current rebate of $100 for the new model, that places the DNX6160 and DNX6960 at the exact same price - the only difference I can see in these 2 units is the preamp voltage (2V vs 5V) and the wireless remote so I'm not really sure why they jumped to a 6960 - that looks more like a 6161 to me.

Also, comparing the 6160 to the 7160 all I see is a 6.1" vs 6.95" screen, an extra 2 EQ bands on the 7 series, different sound processing ability, a wireless remote on the 7 series, and a flip down screen on the 7 series for an additional 50% more in cost. I also see DNX9xxx series but these seem to be primarily aimed at playing movies with surround sound in the vehicle (feel free to correct me on that one) which clearly won't be for me in this car.

Given that I am going to put this in place of the factory non-Bose setup can someone recommend the optimal unit for me? Here are my requirements:

Current
Good Navigation - really like Garmin but not a deal breaker
iPod capabilities
MP3/WMA capabilities (DVD not critical but I'm guessing they all have this)
Good Sound quality with existing factory speakers
Rear View Camera capabilities
Compatible with steering wheel controls (Source, Skip, and Volume)
Bluetooth capabilities
Simple options for firmware upgrades
Color matching buttons for existing interior is a plus

Future
Subwoofer hookup
Pre-Outs for fronts (probably never have rear speakers in this car)
Work well with a 5 channel amp to drive everything later

I'm willing to entertain non-Kenwood suggestions if the unit meets my requirements above and has a proven track record. I've looked at JVC, Alpine, Pioneer, and Clarion at Crutchfield's site as well.

Thanks in advance for the input!

chuckd05 · 06-22-2010, 06:40 PM

I picked up the avic-920bt Pioneer Unit... seems like a great value with a newer looking interface

Its not installed yet though, I will let you know how I like it

bigaudiofanat · 06-22-2010, 06:50 PM

All the units will work for you. I recommend kenwood because of how well they are and what you get for them.

LinPark · 06-22-2010, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

I picked up the avic-920bt Pioneer Unit... seems like a great value with a newer looking interface

Its not installed yet though, I will let you know how I like it

Any ETA on when that install might be happening?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

All the units will work for you. I recommend kenwood because of how well they are and what you get for them.

Thanks for the input Big!

chuckd05 · 06-22-2010, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LinPark

Any ETA on when that install might be happening?

My Pioneer avic-x920bt was put in tonight and I am more than pleased!

So far it has blown me away...

I will post pics and a review tomorrow or the next day...

The Pandora Link is awesome... It runs the Pandora interface right through your HU with the special Pandora Link for Pioneer App on my iPhone... Im pretty sure you can get the Pandora Link app on other phones as well. Video's through my iphone 3gs all load and play perfect. And with the pioneer cable my phone also charges just fine.

The nav , for the little I used it, seemed good, I would imagine maybe the garmin interface on kenwood may be a bit easier, But it seems like it will function just fine and seemed very accurate. I used the same Rear Camera as AK, in same spot, and it works perfect. Same eBay camera. The quality of the sound is also greatly improved with great EQ functions..

I do not have sirius or MSN Direct ( for traffic, weather, movies ) connected but I plan to do so in the future.

But it seems like a very nice head unit.

WICKED_GRIN · 06-23-2010, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

My Pioneer avic-x920bt was put in tonight and I am more than pleased!

So far it has blown me away...

I will post pics and a review tomorrow or the next day...

The Pandora Link is awesome... It runs the Pandora interface right through your HU with the special Pandora Link for Pioneer App on my iPhone... Im pretty sure you can get the Pandora Link app on other phones as well. Video's through my iphone 3gs all load and play perfect. And with the pioneer cable my phone also charges just fine.

The nav , for the little I used it, seemed good, I would imagine maybe the garmin interface on kenwood may be a bit easier, But it seems like it will function just fine and seemed very accurate. I used the same Rear Camera as AK, in same spot, and it works perfect. Same eBay camera. The quality of the sound is also greatly improved with great EQ functions..

I do not have sirius or MSN Direct ( for traffic, weather, movies ) connected but I plan to do so in the future.

But it seems like a very nice head unit.

Good choice……….this is a great forum for Pioneer owners.

AVIC411.com

CaptainSlow · 06-23-2010, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

My Pioneer avic-x920bt was put in tonight and I am more than pleased!

So far it has blown me away...

I will post pics and a review tomorrow or the next day...

The Pandora Link is awesome... It runs the Pandora interface right through your HU with the special Pandora Link for Pioneer App on my iPhone... Im pretty sure you can get the Pandora Link app on other phones as well. Video's through my iphone 3gs all load and play perfect. And with the pioneer cable my phone also charges just fine.

The nav , for the little I used it, seemed good, I would imagine maybe the garmin interface on kenwood may be a bit easier, But it seems like it will function just fine and seemed very accurate. I used the same Rear Camera as AK, in same spot, and it works perfect. Same eBay camera. The quality of the sound is also greatly improved with great EQ functions..

I do not have sirius or MSN Direct ( for traffic, weather, movies ) connected but I plan to do so in the future.

But it seems like a very nice head unit.

Looking forward to the pictures and the reviews as I'm getting the Z120BT installed on Saturday.

For what it's worth to the OP, I was going to buy a Kenwood unit but after seeing the interface of the Pioneer I went with them. The Kenwood UI looked old and very cluttered whereas the Pioneer did not. I also really liked the iPod interface on the Pioneer than on the Kenwood. My issues were more personal preference rather than technical.

TROOPER · 07-07-2010, 08:41 PM

How is that Pioneer AVIC-X920BT working out so far?

I've also been looking at one of these instead of the Kenwood systems

chuckd05 · 07-08-2010, 09:52 AM

I love it... Works great. Blue tooth seems ehh tho on my iPhone 4. On avic411 it says this is a os4 issue but I'm not sure. But I love the head unit. Very modern interface and works great. Money well spent.

TROOPER · 07-08-2010, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckd05

I love it... Works great. Blue tooth seems ehh tho on my iPhone 4. On avic411 it says this is a os4 issue but I'm not sure. But I love the head unit. Very modern interface and works great. Money well spent.

I keep hearing it's a good unit and great interface, but some say Pioneer is not reliable ..!!

bigaudiofanat · 07-08-2010, 10:38 AM

I have to go with kenwood just because O have seen how nice there interfaces are and like everything you get. Also PM sent.

WICKED_GRIN · 07-08-2010, 12:12 PM

^^ Only one person claims it’s not reliable and I’m sure he will send you a PM that will send you to an old posting that he created in an “old” civic forum! Everyone who has a Pioneer HU in this forum has nothing but positive experiences! Google Pioneer reviews!!

WICKED_GRIN · 07-08-2010, 12:15 PM

^^ pioneer car stereo reviews - Google Search

TROOPER · 07-08-2010, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

^^ pioneer car stereo reviews - Google Search

I don't trust review sites HaHa.

They talk about first impressions and features, and normally have bias opinions or sponsors.

These reviews are never long term use, and real world reviews.

That's why it's better to hear from experianced users in forums such as this.

Just my opinion

WICKED_GRIN · 07-08-2010, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TROOPER

I don't trust review sites HaHa.

They talk about first impressions and features, and normally have bias opinions or sponsors.

These reviews are never long term use, and real world reviews.

That's why it's better to hear from experianced users in forums such as this.

Just my opinion

I can give you my real world experiences…………….it’s a great head unit! I have owned Alpine, Kenwood and Pioneer. Pioneer is top dog for performance, value and features. Read the reviews posted from chuckd05 or CaptainSlow!! Like I stated above………………only one (not a 370Z owner) bashes Pioneer!

06-22-2010, 05:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
LinPark A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,077 Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Rep Power: 23	Headunit Research - Recommendations Please Been doing some research on these and have managed to completely confuse myself. Mostly using Crutchfield for my comparisons and the Kenwood units seem to be all over the place in functionality vs age vs price. For instance, with the current rebate of $100 for the new model, that places the DNX6160 and DNX6960 at the exact same price - the only difference I can see in these 2 units is the preamp voltage (2V vs 5V) and the wireless remote so I'm not really sure why they jumped to a 6960 - that looks more like a 6161 to me. Also, comparing the 6160 to the 7160 all I see is a 6.1" vs 6.95" screen, an extra 2 EQ bands on the 7 series, different sound processing ability, a wireless remote on the 7 series, and a flip down screen on the 7 series for an additional 50% more in cost. I also see DNX9xxx series but these seem to be primarily aimed at playing movies with surround sound in the vehicle (feel free to correct me on that one) which clearly won't be for me in this car. Given that I am going to put this in place of the factory non-Bose setup can someone recommend the optimal unit for me? Here are my requirements: *Current* Good Navigation - really like Garmin but not a deal breaker iPod capabilities MP3/WMA capabilities (DVD not critical but I'm guessing they all have this) Good Sound quality with existing factory speakers Rear View Camera capabilities Compatible with steering wheel controls (Source, Skip, and Volume) Bluetooth capabilities Simple options for firmware upgrades Color matching buttons for existing interior is a plus *Future* Subwoofer hookup Pre-Outs for fronts (probably never have rear speakers in this car) Work well with a 5 channel amp to drive everything later I'm willing to entertain non-Kenwood suggestions if the unit meets my requirements above and has a proven track record. I've looked at JVC, Alpine, Pioneer, and Clarion at Crutchfield's site as well. Thanks in advance for the input!

06-22-2010, 06:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	I picked up the avic-920bt Pioneer Unit... seems like a great value with a newer looking interface Its not installed yet though, I will let you know how I like it __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

06-22-2010, 06:50 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	All the units will work for you. I recommend kenwood because of how well they are and what you get for them. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

07-07-2010, 08:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
TROOPER A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,297 Drives: Your Tax Dollars Rep Power: 17	How is that Pioneer AVIC-X920BT working out so far? I've also been looking at one of these instead of the Kenwood systems __________________ Darren "Guv Motors Passion Wagon"

07-08-2010, 09:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
chuckd05 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 2,391 Drives: No longer a Z Rep Power: 20	I love it... Works great. Blue tooth seems ehh tho on my iPhone 4. On avic411 it says this is a os4 issue but I'm not sure. But I love the head unit. Very modern interface and works great. Money well spent. __________________ 09 370Z 6M PW - FBO Best 1/4 mile = 12.926 @ 109 SOLD -- 08 BMW 135i - FBO 12.1@120mph SOLD -- white 09 e92 335 Coupe Mtech - 11.9 @ 119 :-)

07-08-2010, 10:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I have to go with kenwood just because O have seen how nice there interfaces are and like everything you get. Also PM sent. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/ Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 07-08-2010 at 10:41 AM.

07-08-2010, 12:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 15	^^ Only one person claims it’s not reliable and I’m sure he will send you a PM that will send you to an old posting that he created in an “old” civic forum! Everyone who has a Pioneer HU in this forum has nothing but positive experiences! Google Pioneer reviews!!

07-08-2010, 12:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 15	^^ pioneer car stereo reviews - Google Search

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