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2fast4thelaw · 06-21-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

You can buy JL amps and all but for the money you spend on them there are much better products out there such as the ones we have mentioned "speed and me". JL is sort of like bose all hype although they are a lot better than bose more like hyped up GOOD products than great.

BIG Please, dont go there with your JL waste of money tirade yet again! Also the comment you made about Focals being harsh was very ignorant as well as your VAST experience with focal consists of installing (1) mediocre set from them.

Matt · 06-21-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw

BIG Please, dont go there with your JL waste of money tirade yet again! Also the comment you made about Focals being harsh was very ignorant as well as your VAST experience with focal consists of installing (1) mediocre set from them.

My Focal components are still the best sounding speakers I've ever owned, to include Infinity, Boston, Polk and JL.

However, there was definitely a "break in" period that was quite noticeable compared to previous speakers. I did not like the sound coming from the Focals for a while and had some early buyer's remorse. Couldn't be happier now, though. Maybe it's all in my head, /shrug.

bigaudiofanat · 06-21-2010, 02:14 PM

I am not saying jl is bad I am simply saying there are much better options out there for the type of money he wants to spend.

Focals are nice but the tweeters are a tad harsh even after break in to some people including myself. Again better options out there. Also to say that I have only installed just ONE set is an understatement plus the vast majority of different types of speakers and amps that I have installed, allows me to draw my conclusion about products.

cookZmonster · 06-22-2010, 02:01 PM

Thanks to both of you for the insight, didn't mean to cause any arguments but I understand there will naturally be some disagreement on these things. Pretty hard to be objective when it comes to music, its like people'e favorite foods! Everyone has their own pick.

Aubrey

2fast4thelaw · 06-22-2010, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by cookZmonster

Thanks to both of you for the insight, didn't mean to cause any arguments but I understand there will naturally be some disagreement on these things. Pretty hard to be objective when it comes to music, its like people'e favorite foods! Everyone has their own pick.

Aubrey

Exactly!

WICKED_GRIN · 06-23-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 2fast4thelaw

BIG Please, dont go there with your JL waste of money tirade yet again! Also the comment you made about Focals being harsh was very ignorant as well as your VAST experience with focal consists of installing (1) mediocre set from them.

Exactly!

speedaudio64 · 06-23-2010, 09:22 AM

So let me see I get this right 2fast and wicked. Your telling the young man, the one who has helped this forum more than either one of you than just bashing another member or talking up JL or Pioneer, that your right about JL being the best you can buy?

Wrong, as big has mentioned and clearly stated they are good but they are not the best. I have seen audison systems simply get better just by swapping JL amps with Memphis or with audison. Focal getting to that, it like a love hate thing. Some people like them some people do not. Focal can be a bit harsh and for the money there are plenty of better options out there.

If you want to pay for over priced good stuff by all means buy into the hype like a bose owner would and continue using them. But if you want a real system fallow what speed or big is offering and pull your head out of your a$$ and learn something from the pros, or at least the ones that by what I can tell like to offer more advice than smack talk.

WICKED_GRIN · 06-23-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by speedaudio64

So let me see I get this right 2fast and wicked. Your telling the young man, the one who has helped this forum more than either one of you than just bashing another member or talking up JL or Pioneer, that your right about JL being the best you can buy?

Wrong, as big has mentioned and clearly stated they are good but they are not the best. I have seen audison systems simply get better just by swapping JL amps with Memphis or with audison. Focal getting to that, it like a love hate thing. Some people like them some people do not. Focal can be a bit harsh and for the money there are plenty of better options out there.

If you want to pay for over priced good stuff by all means buy into the hype like a bose owner would and continue using them. But if you want a real system fallow what speed or big is offering and pull your head out of your a$$ and learn something from the pros, or at least the ones that by what I can tell like to offer more advice than smack talk.

cookZmonster started this thread by stating he has “financial freedom” and inquired about the “dream” audio system for his 40th anniversary 370Z. The Pioneer DEX-P99RS is the best single din (or any din) on the market (as of 6/2010). Selecting speakers is really a personal choice for obvious reasons! It gets really old when the same person constantly bashes Pioneer. Sure he has some good advice but he is also making money off forum members. A five year old Alpine is going to sound great in an eight year old Civic!

bigaudiofanat · 06-23-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

cookZmonster started this thread by stating he has “financial freedom” and inquired about the “dream” audio system for his 40th anniversary 370Z. The Pioneer DEX-P99RS is the best single din (or any din) on the market (as of 6/2010). Selecting speakers is really a personal choice for obvious reasons! It gets really old when the same person constantly bashes Pioneer. Sure he has some good advice but he is also making money off forum members. A five year old Alpine is going to sound great in an eight year old Civic!

My car has nothing to do with it. So your saying it all depends on the car a head unit is installed in for how well your audio sounds? So a 9887 head unit will not sound good in a z? Oh you mena speakers yes that will be effected by the car. And when I do an install yes I make money but not by helping people out on here. I do this just to help people out. The other thread is talking about pioneer I have not said anything here about them.

Also my head unit is not 5 years old bought brand new lasst year well the first one was used than bought a new one after deciding to go back to active setups.

jayl · 06-23-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

And when I do an install yes I make money but not by helping people out on here. I do this just to help people out.

Matt is awesome when it comes to helping!!!!! and if he was making money helping people on here... I would have been broke yesterday with the number of responses I have gotten from him on here with pm's and aim's...

Yes he does make money by doing installs but I he has never said sorry I wont answer your ? if you dont pay me.... hes super helpful!!!

cookZmonster · 06-23-2010, 12:15 PM

No need to get testy folks

I enjoy a spirited disagreement but we are all working towards the same thing here I would imagine, that is the best audio for ALL of us (yes THIS thread is about me but still). The truth is that I like to hear EVERYONE'S opinions, not just one or two people. It doesn't mean I will be able to follow exactly what everyone says, but all information is good information for me personally because naturally I will filter out what I need/choose to, and the rest will be stored in my brain for later

So thanks again to wicked, 2fast, the two speeds and everyone else so far. Again its hopefully a fun-ish exercise, cost in no object system building

Much appreciated

Aubrey

cookZmonster · 06-23-2010, 12:16 PM

*cost IS no object system building*

WICKED_GRIN · 06-23-2010, 12:17 PM

^^ If he would only stop bashing Pioneer…………..People in this forum have no issues with Pioneer! Can all the experts be wrong?

Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT Car GPS (Navigation) reviews - CNET Reviews

cookZmonster · 06-23-2010, 12:40 PM

I suppose its possible lol, but honestly I have owned several pioneer head units and I have always been happy with them, doesn't mean everyone else will like them though

Thanks,
Aubrey

jayl · 06-23-2010, 01:19 PM

I have owned a pioneer before this unit and liked it a lot!!.

06-21-2010, 02:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I am not saying jl is bad I am simply saying there are much better options out there for the type of money he wants to spend. Focals are nice but the tweeters are a tad harsh even after break in to some people including myself. Again better options out there. Also to say that I have only installed just ONE set is an understatement plus the vast majority of different types of speakers and amps that I have installed, allows me to draw my conclusion about products. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

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06-22-2010, 02:01 PM	#19 (permalink)
cookZmonster Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 39 Drives: 2010 40thAn 370Z Rep Power: 15	Thanks to both of you for the insight, didn't mean to cause any arguments but I understand there will naturally be some disagreement on these things. Pretty hard to be objective when it comes to music, its like people'e favorite foods! Everyone has their own pick. Aubrey

06-23-2010, 09:22 AM	#22 (permalink)
speedaudio64 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 18 Drives: None right now Rep Power: 16	So let me see I get this right 2fast and wicked. Your telling the young man, the one who has helped this forum more than either one of you than just bashing another member or talking up JL or Pioneer, that your right about JL being the best you can buy? Wrong, as big has mentioned and clearly stated they are good but they are not the best. I have seen audison systems simply get better just by swapping JL amps with Memphis or with audison. Focal getting to that, it like a love hate thing. Some people like them some people do not. Focal can be a bit harsh and for the money there are plenty of better options out there. If you want to pay for over priced good stuff by all means buy into the hype like a bose owner would and continue using them. But if you want a real system fallow what speed or big is offering and pull your head out of your a$$ and learn something from the pros, or at least the ones that by what I can tell like to offer more advice than smack talk.

06-23-2010, 12:15 PM	#26 (permalink)
cookZmonster Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 39 Drives: 2010 40thAn 370Z Rep Power: 15	No need to get testy folks I enjoy a spirited disagreement but we are all working towards the same thing here I would imagine, that is the best audio for ALL of us (yes THIS thread is about me but still). The truth is that I like to hear EVERYONE'S opinions, not just one or two people. It doesn't mean I will be able to follow exactly what everyone says, but all information is good information for me personally because naturally I will filter out what I need/choose to, and the rest will be stored in my brain for later So thanks again to wicked, 2fast, the two speeds and everyone else so far. Again its hopefully a fun-ish exercise, cost in no object system building Much appreciated Aubrey

06-23-2010, 12:16 PM	#27 (permalink)
cookZmonster Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 39 Drives: 2010 40thAn 370Z Rep Power: 15	cost IS no object system building

06-23-2010, 12:17 PM	#28 (permalink)
WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 16	^^ If he would only stop bashing Pioneer…………..People in this forum have no issues with Pioneer! Can all the experts be wrong? Pioneer AVIC-Z110BT Car GPS (Navigation) reviews - CNET Reviews

06-23-2010, 12:40 PM	#29 (permalink)
cookZmonster Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 39 Drives: 2010 40thAn 370Z Rep Power: 15	I suppose its possible lol, but honestly I have owned several pioneer head units and I have always been happy with them, doesn't mean everyone else will like them though Thanks, Aubrey

06-23-2010, 01:19 PM	#30 (permalink)
jayl Track Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: md Posts: 813 Drives: 09 370z base MT Rep Power: 16	I have owned a pioneer before this unit and liked it a lot!!.