Expert Opinons Welcome

WICKED_GRIN · 06-24-2010, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by speedfreak28

So much hostility, I actually am a big fan of JL, especially their HD series. My favorite sub is the 12w6v2 but this was a no budget install scenario. Big it was only a year ago when you hadnt even heard of audison. Please be humble. Also who is this speedaudio64? He seems to just agree with everything Big says right or wrong. IP check?

Exactly!

bigaudiofanat · 06-23-2010, 10:35 PM

Actually it was two years ago probably more actually for audison but I love them. Anyway I understand about the humble part speed. You still have those ID amps? Might need them.

cookZmonster · 06-24-2010, 12:40 AM

Thanks again everyone, I am keeping a list of everyone's equipment choices and setups so I can nail things down when I get to that point.

In the meantime though, there seems to be a lot of good sound deadening info from a place called Sound Deadener Showdown - Your Source for Sound Deadening Products and Information I am not advocating or anything, just wondering if anyone has been there, read that, and/or finds it useful.

*IMPORTANT* - I will be out of the country from the dates of June 26 - July 10th. I will have no access to phone, internet, etc until then. SOOOOOO, just needed to get that out there lol.

Aubrey

speedfreak28 · 06-24-2010, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

Actually it was two years ago probably more actually for audison but I love them. Anyway I understand about the humble part speed. You still have those ID amps? Might need them.

Actually it was the beginning of last March, you want a link?

WICKED_GRIN · 06-24-2010, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreak28

Actually it was the beginning of last March, you want a link?

Exactly!

bigaudiofanat · 06-24-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WICKED_GRIN

Exactly!

Exactly! I can say it to

cookZmonster · 01-21-2011, 09:23 PM

I have been in contact with bigaudiofanat and speedfreak28 lately and if anyone is still following this thread (lol) I just wanted to say they are both incredibly knowledgeable as well as just good people to work with. I am trying to arrange an audio 'project' for my 370Z and they have both been great to work with, very honest, very knowledgeable and I hope to get them both hands-on the project very soon. I am certain both they and I will be updating the status of the various steps of the project on these forums

Thanks for everyone's help and advice, I very much appreciate it.

Aubrey

bigaudiofanat · 06-24-2010, 05:39 PM

Does not matter to me.

LinPark · 01-21-2011, 10:02 PM

You are in good hands my friend - can't wait to see what you have going on.

Juleous · 01-22-2011, 12:40 AM

Please do a custom sub enclosure, stealth if not some cool fiberglass option. You could say a Zenclosure would look weird in $10k system, let's see a nice custom install that looks like it's worth the $ and not another cookie cutter setup.

Just my 2cents, there is a ton of the same basic designs around here.

You should be all talking McIntosh anyway.

6spdcoupe · 01-22-2011, 01:10 AM

'Best' doesn't exist .. 'Best to you' surely does. Since that is the case take a listen to some thing, vehicles as well as home. Get a feel for what you like, with your own media. Takes notes, compare them after each demo and move forward from there.

Take your budget and spend it wisely. Acoustic treatment should be first followed by drivers. Despite the fact that it is not needed in it's entirety is your budget 10k, or is it limitless ? Big difference here.

There are several good replies here, but many are also very opinionated and biased - no harm, no foul, it's human nature, but take it with a grain of salt when shopping for you.

cookZmonster · 01-22-2011, 01:48 PM

I appreciate everyone's interest and input, I won't reveal the estimated costs just yet (although big and speed are welcome to disclose these details if they wish) but let's just say I am giving them a large amount of freedom

My budget is limitless this is true.. however there is a point of diminishing returns when we are talking about a daily driver, a car that will not compete in audio competitions, and the fact that 95% of the music will come from 256Kbps audio files. With these facts in mind the guys are being conscious of my money, which by the way is a fact that alone makes them worthy of praise. It would be easy for an installer to just say "oh limitless is great lets blow a HUGE amount" but these two guys are obviously more honorable than that and we have discussed the many ways to cut BACK on costs.

I have no doubt I will be very pleased, as you have pointed out I am in excellent hands with the both of them

I will have to let THEM (big and speed) answer any details that I cannot about the technical aspects of the build, and/or the logic of their decisions. I am sure when more concrete decisions are made they will be happy to share

Thanks again everyone!
Aubrey

6spdcoupe · 01-22-2011, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookZmonster

I appreciate everyone's interest and input, I won't reveal the estimated costs just yet (although big and speed are welcome to disclose these details if they wish) but let's just say I am giving them a large amount of freedom

My budget is limitless this is true.. however there is a point of diminishing returns when we are talking about a daily driver, a car that will not compete in audio competitions, and the fact that 95% of the music will come from 256Kbps audio files. With these facts in mind the guys are being conscious of my money, which by the way is a fact that alone makes them worthy of praise. It would be easy for an installer to just say "oh limitless is great lets blow a HUGE amount" but these two guys are obviously more honorable than that and we have discussed the many ways to cut BACK on costs.

I have no doubt I will be very pleased, as you have pointed out I am in excellent hands with the both of them

I will have to let THEM (big and speed) answer any details that I cannot about the technical aspects of the build, and/or the logic of their decisions. I am sure when more concrete decisions are made they will be happy to share

Thanks again everyone!
Aubrey

I agree on diminishing returns, but there is another thought process .. Investment Vs. purchase. On some products .. ie: Dynaudio, TRU, Genesis, etc they can be considered an investment and will serve for years or decades to come. However they have a price tag. For the more 'generics' Rockford, JL, Kicker, etc it may appear a purchase. Many of the former would typically be pulled from your vehicle and go into the next and the next whereas the latter may be left or passed onto a buddy when done with the vehicle.

Example .. I have a client that leases all of his vehicles and comes back to me every two to three years to move his Dynaudio and McIntosh rig into his newest addition. This has been ongoing since about '97. While he spend a good amount of coin up front, he has ran ( and loved ) the same setup for nearly 14 years.

bigaudiofanat · 01-23-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LinPark

You are in good hands my friend - can't wait to see what you have going on.

There is a lot going on with this project we will not say anything until work has started with pictures to fallow as the days go by.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juleous

Please do a custom sub enclosure, stealth if not some cool fiberglass option. You could say a Zenclosure would look weird in $10k system, let's see a nice custom install that looks like it's worth the $ and not another cookie cutter setup.

Just my 2cents, there is a ton of the same basic designs around here.

You should be all talking McIntosh anyway.

We are happily going to do something really nice but probably not stealth however it may be a good time for Mike and I to get a templete made for a stealth box that will not stick out of the floor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cookZmonster

I appreciate everyone's interest and input, I won't reveal the estimated costs just yet (although big and speed are welcome to disclose these details if they wish) but let's just say I am giving them a large amount of freedom

My budget is limitless this is true.. however there is a point of diminishing returns when we are talking about a daily driver, a car that will not compete in audio competitions, and the fact that 95% of the music will come from 256Kbps audio files. With these facts in mind the guys are being conscious of my money, which by the way is a fact that alone makes them worthy of praise. It would be easy for an installer to just say "oh limitless is great lets blow a HUGE amount" but these two guys are obviously more honorable than that and we have discussed the many ways to cut BACK on costs.

I have no doubt I will be very pleased, as you have pointed out I am in excellent hands with the both of them

I will have to let THEM (big and speed) answer any details that I cannot about the technical aspects of the build, and/or the logic of their decisions. I am sure when more concrete decisions are made they will be happy to share

Thanks again everyone!
Aubrey

Glad you pointed out your compressed music as I pointed out that lowers where we go with what brand and what we buy as if it was lossless we could of went even higher end. No matter what the system is going to sound amazing.

Juleous · 01-23-2011, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

There is a lot going on with this project we will not say anything until work has started with pictures to fallow as the days go by.

We are happily going to do something really nice but probably not stealth however it may be a good time for Mike and I to get a templete made for a stealth box that will not stick out of the floor.

Glad you pointed out your compressed music as I pointed out that lowers where we go with what brand and what we buy as if it was lossless we could of went even higher end. No matter what the system is going to sound amazing.

PG6 does nice work, odviously he is a true audio professional. Not sure how two cooks in the kitchen work out? PG6 how is it you can work with a second installer when your the pro, this must be difficult.

06-23-2010, 10:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Actually it was two years ago probably more actually for audison but I love them. Anyway I understand about the humble part speed. You still have those ID amps? Might need them. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

06-24-2010, 05:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Does not matter to me. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

01-22-2011, 01:10 AM	#11 (permalink)
6spdcoupe Base Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Central Jersey Posts: 34 Drives: '08 TBSS, '06 E55 Rep Power: 15	'Best' doesn't exist .. 'Best to you' surely does. Since that is the case take a listen to some thing, vehicles as well as home. Get a feel for what you like, with your own media. Takes notes, compare them after each demo and move forward from there. Take your budget and spend it wisely. Acoustic treatment should be first followed by drivers. Despite the fact that it is not needed in it's entirety is your budget 10k, or is it limitless ? Big difference here. There are several good replies here, but many are also very opinionated and biased - no harm, no foul, it's human nature, but take it with a grain of salt when shopping for you. __________________ '06 E55, '08 TBSS, '09 CX-7 H900/TRU SSLD6i/TRU Billets/ Dyn 182s~Esotar 110s~430s~1200

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06-24-2010, 12:40 AM	#3 (permalink)
cookZmonster Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 39 Drives: 2010 40thAn 370Z Rep Power: 15	Thanks again everyone, I am keeping a list of everyone's equipment choices and setups so I can nail things down when I get to that point. In the meantime though, there seems to be a lot of good sound deadening info from a place called Sound Deadener Showdown - Your Source for Sound Deadening Products and Information I am not advocating or anything, just wondering if anyone has been there, read that, and/or finds it useful. IMPORTANT - I will be out of the country from the dates of June 26 - July 10th. I will have no access to phone, internet, etc until then. SOOOOOO, just needed to get that out there lol. Aubrey

01-21-2011, 09:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
cookZmonster Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 39 Drives: 2010 40thAn 370Z Rep Power: 15	I have been in contact with bigaudiofanat and speedfreak28 lately and if anyone is still following this thread (lol) I just wanted to say they are both incredibly knowledgeable as well as just good people to work with. I am trying to arrange an audio 'project' for my 370Z and they have both been great to work with, very honest, very knowledgeable and I hope to get them both hands-on the project very soon. I am certain both they and I will be updating the status of the various steps of the project on these forums Thanks for everyone's help and advice, I very much appreciate it. Aubrey

01-21-2011, 10:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
LinPark A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,077 Drives: '17 Camaro 2SS A8 Rep Power: 24	You are in good hands my friend - can't wait to see what you have going on.

01-22-2011, 12:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
Juleous Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Nowhere Posts: 335 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 15	Please do a custom sub enclosure, stealth if not some cool fiberglass option. You could say a Zenclosure would look weird in $10k system, let's see a nice custom install that looks like it's worth the $ and not another cookie cutter setup. Just my 2cents, there is a ton of the same basic designs around here. You should be all talking McIntosh anyway.

01-22-2011, 01:48 PM	#12 (permalink)
cookZmonster Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: West Virginia Posts: 39 Drives: 2010 40thAn 370Z Rep Power: 15	I appreciate everyone's interest and input, I won't reveal the estimated costs just yet (although big and speed are welcome to disclose these details if they wish) but let's just say I am giving them a large amount of freedom My budget is limitless this is true.. however there is a point of diminishing returns when we are talking about a daily driver, a car that will not compete in audio competitions, and the fact that 95% of the music will come from 256Kbps audio files. With these facts in mind the guys are being conscious of my money, which by the way is a fact that alone makes them worthy of praise. It would be easy for an installer to just say "oh limitless is great lets blow a HUGE amount" but these two guys are obviously more honorable than that and we have discussed the many ways to cut BACK on costs. I have no doubt I will be very pleased, as you have pointed out I am in excellent hands with the both of them I will have to let THEM (big and speed) answer any details that I cannot about the technical aspects of the build, and/or the logic of their decisions. I am sure when more concrete decisions are made they will be happy to share Thanks again everyone! Aubrey