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sonic370 05-04-2010 08:13 PM

sound system comment
 
Really don't know if this fits here just needed to vent.
Why would nissan put such as a cheap _ss systen in what to me is really
a for the money a world class sports car. It sounds like a cheap 1960s Japanese
hand held radio. Sorry for the vent just wanted to get it off my chest. know what my first mod is.

370Zsteve 05-04-2010 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 525036)
Really don't know if this fits here just needed to vent.
Why would nissan put such as a cheap _ss systen in what to me is really
a for the money a world class sports car. It sounds like a cheap 1960s Japanese
hand held radio. Sorry for the vent just wanted to get it off my chest. know what my first mod is.

The Bose? LOL sounds ok to me maybe your CDs are scratched

SophiaZ 05-04-2010 08:21 PM

Try the BASE model!! That sounds sad....I would know. No rear speakers=FAIL IMO Jeez, my old 2004 Neon sounded 50x better and thats pathetic haha

scruggyj 05-04-2010 08:40 PM

I was actually very suprised at how good my base system sounds. To be honest the radio just sounds blah but when I pop in a cd the base hits pretty hard. It sounds great I think. I had an 04 350Z touring with the bose and I don't miss it.

sonic370 05-04-2010 08:45 PM

I guess that's good point. My point was they improved the 370 over the 350
in so many areas but forgot about the sound system. the inside of the car is great until you turn on the radio.

shabarivas 05-04-2010 08:53 PM

you guys should have NOT gotten a sports car if you are going to complain about the audio quality...

Jeez - whats up with all these new owners these days - seems to me like the first thread opened is either about how loud the road noise is or how much the sound quality sucks or how much the paint sucks.... seriously.. its a sports car... meant to get to 1g - get out and drive - the only music I hear is the sweet sound of my VQ and the sound of tires and road having serious disagreements :)

Trips 05-04-2010 08:54 PM

The Bose System Sounds pretty good... not perfect.
as for the owners with the base stereo! rip it out and install a better Stereo System...

Rui Z 05-04-2010 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shabarivas (Post 525165)
you guys should have NOT gotten a sports car if you are going to complain about the audio quality...

Jeez - whats up with all these new owners these days - seems to me like the first thread opened is either about how loud the road noise is or how much the sound quality sucks or how much the paint sucks.... seriously.. its a sports car... meant to get to 1g - get out and drive - the only music I hear is the sweet sound of my VQ and the sound of tires and road having serious disagreements :)

Yup Yup Vroooooooom!!!

antennahead 05-04-2010 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 525036)
Really don't know if this fits here just needed to vent.
Why would nissan put such as a cheap _ss systen in what to me is really
a for the money a world class sports car. It sounds like a cheap 1960s Japanese
hand held radio. Sorry for the vent just wanted to get it off my chest. know what my first mod is.

"a for the money a world class sports car" ......... you answered your own question here. Nissan was trying to offer the level of performance our cars have AND keep the price of the base model under $30,000.......... a tough accomplishment. Adding a higher quality stereo to the base model did not co-exist with that goal.

AK370Z 05-04-2010 09:06 PM

If my windows are down, I rarely turn the audio system on (or keep it in low volume) The exhaust sound of the VQ engine > the best stereo system in the world. (at least that's how I feel :tiphat:)

steveg78 05-04-2010 09:08 PM

The stock stereo is def-sub par for a 30k+ car but i guess that's a trade-off for the performance we are getting for the $$$$. I can deal with it as I'm not blasting tunes and when I have my ipod hooked up it sounds much better than the radio.

I gotta agree with shabarivas, its a sports car! Same thing goes for other nuances with certain things. It all factors into keeping the car at the price point it's at.

EDIT: Damn antennahead beat me to it!

cptspeed 05-04-2010 09:20 PM

I've always changed the stereo out in my cars anyways. Except my titan. The stock tweeter locations on the 370 is better than the 350, making a huge difference when you install new ones.

gpa7pk 05-04-2010 09:27 PM

I'm with AK370Z. I will be happy to trade you my touring Bose and road noise damping for WOT and the tunes that come with it. That's why my 50 year old sports cars are the hoot to drive. The sounds they make on the road are the real music.

Soygen 05-04-2010 09:29 PM

I enjoy the sound of the engine for sure, but the Bose system sounds good enough. Anyone who had cars made in the 80's and 90's knows just how terrible stock systems can be. This one ain't all that bad(in the Touring at least).

pauley 05-04-2010 09:36 PM

3.7 liter engine + Ark Grip exhaust = music to my ears



I've listened to the Bose maybe 4 times, i have upgraded system in my G35, so engine/exhaust sound system good enough for me.

Liquid_G 05-04-2010 09:40 PM

I'm glad the stock system sounded like ***.. all the more reason to replace it.

pauley 05-04-2010 09:45 PM

Really not a fan of Bose, but it sounds better than i expected.

Zsteve 05-04-2010 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 525036)
Really don't know if this fits here just needed to vent.
Why would nissan put such as a cheap _ss systen in what to me is really
a for the money a world class sports car. It sounds like a cheap 1960s Japanese
hand held radio. Sorry for the vent just wanted to get it off my chest. know what my first mod is.

I wouldnt call the Z a world class sports car but a nice sports car for the money. And the stereo is on standard for the car and with most stock stereos for most cars. There really arent too many stock stereos that would satisfy a person who really wants great sounds in the car.

TamZ 05-04-2010 10:09 PM

Having some time to crank my radio on this last trip to Vegas...(and granted, I'm not really "in the know" as far as stereos go..) but I actually enjoy my Tourings Bose/Nav stereo thingy bopper :) I was cranking Hinder pretty loudly and it sounded good to me :)

elixxxer 05-04-2010 10:14 PM

The Bose isn't bad, but the base could and should be better. Frankly, the touring should be better too (for instance the 2010-11 Mustang 500W system is far superior, and the 1000W is just in a different stratosphere).

shadoquad 05-04-2010 10:31 PM

I agree with the sentiment that this is a sports car, and road noise is something I enjoy. The VQ makes a delightful growl.

But I can also understand touring owners being upset if that Bose system isn't living up to the extra cost. I wouldn't know. Mine is base. I didn't even turn the radio on during test drives.

Zsteve 05-04-2010 10:45 PM

car stereos get better with every year and will never satisfy people. A car company isnt going to put 1000w stereos in stock cars as many people wouldnt want to pay for it. The younger crowd likes loud while the older crowd wants quality over volume and for the most part Bose does this without busting ear drums. Now I put a 400 watt amp to a 8 in woof in the back and it improved the sound greatly without over powering the stock system. The Bose is good for what it was designed to do, give good quality sound at a moderate volume.

SophiaZ 05-04-2010 10:51 PM

Yea..having an upgraded exhaust sounds better than the radio, but the stock exhaust is BORING. I do prefer a nice sounding stereo tho as I don't leave my windows down much..I can hear the VQ sound with the windows up now :)
And yea, the cd's sound much better than stereo

tonybui 05-04-2010 10:57 PM

BASE audio sucks *** especially when I came from the TL ELS surround sound

sonic370 05-05-2010 06:53 AM

It may not be world class,but bang for your buck the 370z in its class is in the top three. and my only complaint about the total car which i do love was nissan choose to cut corners on the sound system.the base system sounds like it just came out of a " versa".

bigaudiofanat 05-05-2010 06:58 AM

Mostly any stock sound system blow big time. the sad truth is the bose system is worse that the base system. They always look to cut costs. If you are that worried about audio upgrade just like people have done for years.

bigaudiofanat 05-05-2010 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Liquid_G (Post 525229)
I'm glad the stock system sounded like ***.. all the more reason to replace it.

This:iagree:

Jeffblue 05-05-2010 07:17 AM

honestly. is bose really that bad? the only people i hear adamantly complaining about it are audiophiles and enthusiasts. I feel like it gets a bad rap from audiophiles etc because they, in order to combat the widespread somewhat ignorant love of bose by the layman, have to criticize bose more harshly than they would otherwise. I think the problem is you've got a lot of people out there pushing bose as THE BEST SPEAKERS AROUND, which they aren't, but in order to combat that opinion, one says 'no **** that, they are the worst!' I think the base system in my altima is fine.

Rhinetom 05-05-2010 07:20 AM

I believe Nissan spent so much money, time, and effort into the performance development of the new 370Z, the stereo was never a priority. Let’s face it, when you first saw this new machine, did you even care about the sound system? I never did.

370Zsteve 05-05-2010 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 525577)
the sad truth is the bose system is worse that the base system.

Wow do I ever disagree with that! The truth is that the Bose system is damned good audio. I never bring it past 20 on the dial, which is more than enough. Had Van Halen on it the other day, sounded great, little or no distortion, excellent fidelity. Bose engineering is in many high-end cars, there is a reason for that. Granted, it's not a 1000w thumper, but in a car, especially a sports car, that is waaay overkill.

I'm one of those "old guys" who prefers quality to volume for volume's sake, I'm a rock/blues musician, and I know a good sound system when I hear one.

bigaudiofanat 05-05-2010 08:48 AM

People have different opinons mine is when a system purposely takes different parts of your music out so they will not distort there crappy speakers, I think thats pathetic. Music should be played without being modified by a company that knows there speakers can not handle much.

Me I actually am the same style of music, I listen to the old stuff more than the newer stuff such at Pink Floyd, Santana, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Garry Moore, Journey, Eagles and so on. My cd collection includes over 300 cds and growing all paid for so I could have the highest quality audio with no compression. I know about good music and how it should sound bose does not do that.

My personal system is SQ based and not a "thumper"

speedfreak28 05-05-2010 09:59 AM

I think my grandpop has those CD's on vinyl. SQueer

bigaudiofanat 05-05-2010 11:36 AM

LOL still good stuff!

rtcpenguin 05-05-2010 01:35 PM

To be honest, I'm glad Nissan cheaped out on the base model because it saves money on the end product and I'll rip it out anyway. The Bose actually sounded worse to me a( little muddy, probably do to poor quality 6x9 speakers).

Also, I love the fact the stock headunit is a direct replace double din. It takes all of an hour to replace it with an aftermarket double din HU + nav. So happy Nissan doesn't do what some manufacturers like Honda do and put some 3 foot wide unit that include audio + clock + glovebox + climate controls.

sonic370 05-05-2010 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat (Post 525653)
People have different opinons mine is when a system purposely takes different parts of your music out so they will not distort there crappy speakers, I think thats pathetic. Music should be played without being modified by a company that knows there speakers can not handle much.

Me I actually am the same style of music, I listen to the old stuff more than the newer stuff such at Pink Floyd, Santana, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Garry Moore, Journey, Eagles and so on. My cd collection includes over 300 cds and growing all paid for so I could have the highest quality audio with no compression. I know about good music and how it should sound bose does not do that.

My personal system is SQ based and not a "thumper"

You make a ton of sense. I'll check out your link. What did you mean by
SQ system.

bigaudiofanat 05-05-2010 05:39 PM

Sound Quality systems are setup to be as close to the original recording as possible. Where as other system are more like rattle or bass boxes on wheels.

2fast4thelaw 05-05-2010 08:29 PM

I am sorry but anyone who thinks the BOSE sound system in the Z AND thinks its great is either tone deaf or they have never heard a decent aftermarket system. I could buy a $80 boom box from walmart and put it on my dash and it would sound better than the stock audio system. BOSE makes the worst OEM car audio systems. Everyone I have heard has MUDDY MUDDY Bass and no highs and nasally sounding midrange. The louder you turn it up and the more compressed it sounds. My ears are cringing just thinking about it.

I purposly bought the Base model pls Sprt pkg so I wasnt paying for the very costly BOSE system which I would have ended up in a cardboard box in storage forever. I wanted the leather seats but I sure as hell wasnt going to pay $2500 for them.

antennahead 05-05-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreak28 (Post 525714)
I think my grandpop has those CD's on vinyl. SQueer

Sounds like your grand pop knows what's happening :tiphat:

2fast4thelaw 05-06-2010 08:15 AM

The main reason why audiophiles hate BOSE is for the following reasons.

Quality of components is extreamly poor equaling that of low-end audio but its sold for the price of high-end audio because they heavily use equilization and elaborate enclosure design to emphasize bass frequencies that the components would not normally be able to produce. This is why they sound fake and compressed.

They do not provide specifications other than maximum wattage. This is because they dont want consumers to know how little rms power their amplifiers produce and how much distortion thier amplifiers have.

Thier amps are always tiny and underpowered because they use cheap Integrated circuits instead of descrete mosfet transistors. Thier speakers are made of paper and have tiny undersized magnets and thier frames are cheap flimsy sheet metal. By far the worst quality I have ever seen by any manufacture.

Thier reputation is built by a very good marketing team that targets the by and large un-informed audience. They make thier systems in small, neat, convienient, easy to use packages that promise HUGE sound and people fall for it every time.

This is why I and many others HATE BOSE!!!!

scrap 05-20-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scruggyj (Post 525146)
I was actually very suprised at how good my base system sounds. To be honest the radio just sounds blah but when I pop in a cd the base hits pretty hard. It sounds great I think. I had an 04 350Z touring with the bose and I don't miss it.

You r absolutely right the base system sounds impressive that i am thinking about not upgrading it to a double din because it is going to diminish the sound I have a 2007 Durango and I removed the OEM radio with a JVC and it sound poor I regret it I am afraid that it will happen to my fairlady


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