sound system comment

bigaudiofanat · 05-05-2010, 09:48 AM

People have different opinons mine is when a system purposely takes different parts of your music out so they will not distort there crappy speakers, I think thats pathetic. Music should be played without being modified by a company that knows there speakers can not handle much.

Me I actually am the same style of music, I listen to the old stuff more than the newer stuff such at Pink Floyd, Santana, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Garry Moore, Journey, Eagles and so on. My cd collection includes over 300 cds and growing all paid for so I could have the highest quality audio with no compression. I know about good music and how it should sound bose does not do that.

My personal system is SQ based and not a "thumper"

speedfreak28 · 05-05-2010, 10:59 AM

I think my grandpop has those CD's on vinyl. SQueer

bigaudiofanat · 05-05-2010, 12:36 PM

LOL still good stuff!

rtcpenguin · 05-05-2010, 02:35 PM

To be honest, I'm glad Nissan cheaped out on the base model because it saves money on the end product and I'll rip it out anyway. The Bose actually sounded worse to me a( little muddy, probably do to poor quality 6x9 speakers).

Also, I love the fact the stock headunit is a direct replace double din. It takes all of an hour to replace it with an aftermarket double din HU + nav. So happy Nissan doesn't do what some manufacturers like Honda do and put some 3 foot wide unit that include audio + clock + glovebox + climate controls.

sonic370 · 05-05-2010, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

People have different opinons mine is when a system purposely takes different parts of your music out so they will not distort there crappy speakers, I think thats pathetic. Music should be played without being modified by a company that knows there speakers can not handle much.

Me I actually am the same style of music, I listen to the old stuff more than the newer stuff such at Pink Floyd, Santana, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Garry Moore, Journey, Eagles and so on. My cd collection includes over 300 cds and growing all paid for so I could have the highest quality audio with no compression. I know about good music and how it should sound bose does not do that.

My personal system is SQ based and not a "thumper"

You make a ton of sense. I'll check out your link. What did you mean by
SQ system.

bigaudiofanat · 05-05-2010, 06:39 PM

Sound Quality systems are setup to be as close to the original recording as possible. Where as other system are more like rattle or bass boxes on wheels.

2fast4thelaw · 05-05-2010, 09:29 PM

I am sorry but anyone who thinks the BOSE sound system in the Z AND thinks its great is either tone deaf or they have never heard a decent aftermarket system. I could buy a $80 boom box from walmart and put it on my dash and it would sound better than the stock audio system. BOSE makes the worst OEM car audio systems. Everyone I have heard has MUDDY MUDDY Bass and no highs and nasally sounding midrange. The louder you turn it up and the more compressed it sounds. My ears are cringing just thinking about it.

I purposly bought the Base model pls Sprt pkg so I wasnt paying for the very costly BOSE system which I would have ended up in a cardboard box in storage forever. I wanted the leather seats but I sure as hell wasnt going to pay $2500 for them.

antennahead · 05-05-2010, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreak28

I think my grandpop has those CD's on vinyl. SQueer

Sounds like your grand pop knows what's happening

2fast4thelaw · 05-06-2010, 09:15 AM

The main reason why audiophiles hate BOSE is for the following reasons.

Quality of components is extreamly poor equaling that of low-end audio but its sold for the price of high-end audio because they heavily use equilization and elaborate enclosure design to emphasize bass frequencies that the components would not normally be able to produce. This is why they sound fake and compressed.

They do not provide specifications other than maximum wattage. This is because they dont want consumers to know how little rms power their amplifiers produce and how much distortion thier amplifiers have.

Thier amps are always tiny and underpowered because they use cheap Integrated circuits instead of descrete mosfet transistors. Thier speakers are made of paper and have tiny undersized magnets and thier frames are cheap flimsy sheet metal. By far the worst quality I have ever seen by any manufacture.

Thier reputation is built by a very good marketing team that targets the by and large un-informed audience. They make thier systems in small, neat, convienient, easy to use packages that promise HUGE sound and people fall for it every time.

This is why I and many others HATE BOSE!!!!

scrap · 05-20-2010, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by scruggyj

I was actually very suprised at how good my base system sounds. To be honest the radio just sounds blah but when I pop in a cd the base hits pretty hard. It sounds great I think. I had an 04 350Z touring with the bose and I don't miss it.

You r absolutely right the base system sounds impressive that i am thinking about not upgrading it to a double din because it is going to diminish the sound I have a 2007 Durango and I removed the OEM radio with a JVC and it sound poor I regret it I am afraid that it will happen to my fairlady

billydsz · 05-20-2010, 12:30 PM

Come on now it is not a fair comparison to make between a crappy stock radio put in by a car company and high end aftermarket audio. If you are into high end audio you should know better than to expect any stock system, base or bose to be able to compete with that stuff. So bottom line is and it's never changed, that if you want high end audio you buy the cheapest stock radio you can and then you yank it out. This is standard operating procedure. But bitching that the stock base or bose doesn't compare with an aftermarket system is ridiculous. I mean what were you expecting?

That said the 370z bose/nav system is better than most stock car systems. It still sucks, but where is the surprise in that? I am not sure what the complaint is? I have never heard a decent stock system installed by a car manufacturer (when compared to aftermarket systems). If you have high end audio expectations you should know it has to be aftermarket. This discussion is really moot.

bigaudiofanat · 05-20-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by billydsz

Come on now it is not a fair comparison to make between a crappy stock radio put in by a car company and high end aftermarket audio. If you are into high end audio you should know better than to expect any stock system, base or bose to be able to compete with that stuff. So bottom line is and it's never changed, that if you want high end audio you buy the cheapest stock radio you can and then you yank it out. This is standard operating procedure. But bitching that the stock base or bose doesn't compare with an aftermarket system is ridiculous. I mean what were you expecting?

That said the 370z bose/nav system is better than most stock car systems. It still sucks, but where is the surprise in that? I am not sure what the complaint is? I have never heard a decent stock system installed by a car manufacturer (when compared to aftermarket systems). If you have high end audio expectations you should know it has to be aftermarket. This discussion is really moot.

Um I would check out the harmon/kardon systems in some cars and the infinity is others both blow away the bose system.

2fast4thelaw · 05-25-2010, 11:17 PM

I had the Harmon Kardon ICE 12 speaker system in my Landrover and it had 3-way components in the doors. With the exception of lots of deep bass output it would put many aftermarket systems to shame. It was good enough that the only upgrade I did was add an aftermarket subwoofer and amplifier. It had impressive mid bass output and imaging and midrange was was suprizingly good!

I also had an Audi that had a monsoon system that was suprizingly good too. For not having subs it sounded very full and controlled.

speedfreak28 · 05-26-2010, 05:26 PM

My brother had a Bose stereo in his 08 escalade and It sounded pretty good. The bose system use speakers in enclosure designed for the specific vehicles parameters. While they may not compare to the output and fidelity of a several thousand dollar aftermarket setup, they can still sound pretty nice.

mitchb · 01-03-2013, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

I wouldnt call the Z a world class sports car but a nice sports car for the money. And the stereo is on standard for the car and with most stock stereos for most cars. There really arent too many stock stereos that would satisfy a person who really wants great sounds in the car.

amen bro

05-05-2010, 09:48 AM	#31 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	People have different opinons mine is when a system purposely takes different parts of your music out so they will not distort there crappy speakers, I think thats pathetic. Music should be played without being modified by a company that knows there speakers can not handle much. Me I actually am the same style of music, I listen to the old stuff more than the newer stuff such at Pink Floyd, Santana, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Garry Moore, Journey, Eagles and so on. My cd collection includes over 300 cds and growing all paid for so I could have the highest quality audio with no compression. I know about good music and how it should sound bose does not do that. My personal system is SQ based and not a "thumper" __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/ Last edited by bigaudiofanat; 05-05-2010 at 09:54 AM.

05-05-2010, 12:36 PM	#33 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	LOL still good stuff! __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

05-05-2010, 02:35 PM	#34 (permalink)
rtcpenguin Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: fairfax, va Posts: 40 Drives: 2009 red 370z Sport Rep Power: 15	To be honest, I'm glad Nissan cheaped out on the base model because it saves money on the end product and I'll rip it out anyway. The Bose actually sounded worse to me a( little muddy, probably do to poor quality 6x9 speakers). Also, I love the fact the stock headunit is a direct replace double din. It takes all of an hour to replace it with an aftermarket double din HU + nav. So happy Nissan doesn't do what some manufacturers like Honda do and put some 3 foot wide unit that include audio + clock + glovebox + climate controls. __________________ Home made fiberglass subwoofer in spare, Pioneer HU + nav, upgradred trunk lift springs.

05-05-2010, 06:39 PM	#36 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Sound Quality systems are setup to be as close to the original recording as possible. Where as other system are more like rattle or bass boxes on wheels. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

05-05-2010, 09:29 PM	#37 (permalink)
2fast4thelaw Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Co Age: 50 Posts: 403 Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6 Rep Power: 16	I am sorry but anyone who thinks the BOSE sound system in the Z AND thinks its great is either tone deaf or they have never heard a decent aftermarket system. I could buy a $80 boom box from walmart and put it on my dash and it would sound better than the stock audio system. BOSE makes the worst OEM car audio systems. Everyone I have heard has MUDDY MUDDY Bass and no highs and nasally sounding midrange. The louder you turn it up and the more compressed it sounds. My ears are cringing just thinking about it. I purposly bought the Base model pls Sprt pkg so I wasnt paying for the very costly BOSE system which I would have ended up in a cardboard box in storage forever. I wanted the leather seats but I sure as hell wasnt going to pay $2500 for them. __________________ To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

05-05-2010, 10:59 AM	#32 (permalink)
speedfreak28 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: south jersey Posts: 247 Drives: 05 ram, 79 z28 Rep Power: 16	I think my grandpop has those CD's on vinyl. SQueer

05-06-2010, 09:15 AM	#39 (permalink)
2fast4thelaw Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Co Age: 50 Posts: 403 Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6 Rep Power: 16	The main reason why audiophiles hate BOSE is for the following reasons. Quality of components is extreamly poor equaling that of low-end audio but its sold for the price of high-end audio because they heavily use equilization and elaborate enclosure design to emphasize bass frequencies that the components would not normally be able to produce. This is why they sound fake and compressed. They do not provide specifications other than maximum wattage. This is because they dont want consumers to know how little rms power their amplifiers produce and how much distortion thier amplifiers have. Thier amps are always tiny and underpowered because they use cheap Integrated circuits instead of descrete mosfet transistors. Thier speakers are made of paper and have tiny undersized magnets and thier frames are cheap flimsy sheet metal. By far the worst quality I have ever seen by any manufacture. Thier reputation is built by a very good marketing team that targets the by and large un-informed audience. They make thier systems in small, neat, convienient, easy to use packages that promise HUGE sound and people fall for it every time. This is why I and many others HATE BOSE!!!! __________________ To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

05-20-2010, 12:30 PM	#41 (permalink)
billydsz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New Bern Posts: 252 Drives: 9 370z SptCp SRd 7AT Rep Power: 16	Come on now it is not a fair comparison to make between a crappy stock radio put in by a car company and high end aftermarket audio. If you are into high end audio you should know better than to expect any stock system, base or bose to be able to compete with that stuff. So bottom line is and it's never changed, that if you want high end audio you buy the cheapest stock radio you can and then you yank it out. This is standard operating procedure. But bitching that the stock base or bose doesn't compare with an aftermarket system is ridiculous. I mean what were you expecting? That said the 370z bose/nav system is better than most stock car systems. It still sucks, but where is the surprise in that? I am not sure what the complaint is? I have never heard a decent stock system installed by a car manufacturer (when compared to aftermarket systems). If you have high end audio expectations you should know it has to be aftermarket. This discussion is really moot.

05-25-2010, 11:17 PM	#43 (permalink)
2fast4thelaw Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Denver Co Age: 50 Posts: 403 Drives: 09 370Z Sport/MT6 Rep Power: 16	I had the Harmon Kardon ICE 12 speaker system in my Landrover and it had 3-way components in the doors. With the exception of lots of deep bass output it would put many aftermarket systems to shame. It was good enough that the only upgrade I did was add an aftermarket subwoofer and amplifier. It had impressive mid bass output and imaging and midrange was was suprizingly good! I also had an Audi that had a monsoon system that was suprizingly good too. For not having subs it sounded very full and controlled. __________________ To the optimist, the glass is half full. To the pessimist, the glass is half empty. To the engineer, the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.

05-26-2010, 05:26 PM	#44 (permalink)
speedfreak28 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: south jersey Posts: 247 Drives: 05 ram, 79 z28 Rep Power: 16	My brother had a Bose stereo in his 08 escalade and It sounded pretty good. The bose system use speakers in enclosure designed for the specific vehicles parameters. While they may not compare to the output and fidelity of a several thousand dollar aftermarket setup, they can still sound pretty nice.

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