Come on now it is not a fair comparison to make between a crappy stock radio put in by a car company and high end aftermarket audio. If you are into high end audio you should know better than to expect any stock system, base or bose to be able to compete with that stuff. So bottom line is and it's never changed, that if you want high end audio you buy the cheapest stock radio you can and then you yank it out. This is standard operating procedure. But bitching that the stock base or bose doesn't compare with an aftermarket system is ridiculous. I mean what were you expecting?

That said the 370z bose/nav system is better than most stock car systems. It still sucks, but where is the surprise in that? I am not sure what the complaint is? I have never heard a decent stock system installed by a car manufacturer (when compared to aftermarket systems). If you have high end audio expectations you should know it has to be aftermarket. This discussion is really moot.

Um I would check out the harmon/kardon systems in some cars and the infinity is others both blow away the bose system.

I had the Harmon Kardon ICE 12 speaker system in my Landrover and it had 3-way components in the doors. With the exception of lots of deep bass output it would put many aftermarket systems to shame. It was good enough that the only upgrade I did was add an aftermarket subwoofer and amplifier. It had impressive mid bass output and imaging and midrange was was suprizingly good!

I also had an Audi that had a monsoon system that was suprizingly good too. For not having subs it sounded very full and controlled.

My brother had a Bose stereo in his 08 escalade and It sounded pretty good. The bose system use speakers in enclosure designed for the specific vehicles parameters. While they may not compare to the output and fidelity of a several thousand dollar aftermarket setup, they can still sound pretty nice.

amen bro:ughdance: