AMP Classification

BobQ · 03-11-2010, 09:30 PM

Can any one explain to me the amp classification? and what is most desirable for use in autos?

Thanks Bob

bigaudiofanat · 03-11-2010, 09:59 PM

A/B are made for working regular spakers

Class D are made for working hard and being efficient at it mostly for sub amps.

If you look at the link car audio 101 they are explained.

speedfreak28 · 03-11-2010, 10:27 PM

Ill keep it simple because it can get more complicated than what is neccessary to explain the uses in car audio. Ill break it down into classes real quick.

Class A/b amplifiers were the main stay in car amplifier technology for a long time because its not very complex. They are still used today in a lot of audiophile installations because of the output and ability to reproduce higher frequencies cleaner and with less distortion. A big disadvantage is that they are pretty inefficient and as far as car audio is concerned, class A/B could involve costly upgrades to the vehicles electrical system to provide proper current.

Class D has been the main stay in car audio for most of the past 10 years. Mainly because it is cheaper and more efficient( basically you need less voltage across the board to maintain the given rms of the amp) and the efficiency reduces heat. A disadvantage is that audible distortion can occur at lower frequencies than in A/B applications. This is why class D technology is commonplace in high powered woofer applications.

Newer to the car audio market is class GH ( G and or H ) The output of the amplifier is similar to class A/B but is more efficient in terms of power consumption. The technology is newer to car audio applications but I believe will end being very common because you don't have to trade sound quality for efficiency like class D applications.

Hopefully I didn't bore you too bad, How the different topologies achieve their output is a lot more complicated but I don't feel its neccessary to get into here. Hopefully this helps

bigaudiofanat · 03-11-2010, 10:52 PM

Didn't know about the G and H classes thanks Mike. Learn something everyday.

BobQ · 03-11-2010, 10:55 PM

So would a class D amplifier like a Alpine pdx be good for front speakers and a driver? or would it be better to use a A or A/B for the fronts? and D for the driver?

I was going to go with a Alpine PDX 5 for both fronts and driver?

Thanks Bob

bigaudiofanat · 03-11-2010, 10:58 PM

The pdx 5 would be fine it is made for running speakers and a sub.

speedfreak28 · 03-11-2010, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BobQ

So would a class D amplifier like a Alpine pdx be good for front speakers and a driver? or would it be better to use a A or A/B for the fronts? and D for the driver?

I was going to go with a Alpine PDX 5 for both fronts and driver?

Thanks Bob

The PDX is a great compromise for an application such as yours, It uses a regulated power supply to provide consisitent output across the usable impedance range of the amp. There's also a couple other companies that use this technology. JL's slash and HD series come to mind...

WICKED_GRIN · 03-12-2010, 07:15 AM

^^ I agree

37Z · 03-12-2010, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreak28

Ill keep it simple because it can get more complicated than what is neccessary to explain the uses in car audio. Ill break it down into classes real quick.

Class A/b amplifiers were the main stay in car amplifier technology for a long time because its not very complex. They are still used today in a lot of audiophile installations because of the output and ability to reproduce higher frequencies cleaner and with less distortion. A big disadvantage is that they are pretty inefficient and as far as car audio is concerned, class A/B could involve costly upgrades to the vehicles electrical system to provide proper current.

Class D has been the main stay in car audio for most of the past 10 years. Mainly because it is cheaper and more efficient( basically you need less voltage across the board to maintain the given rms of the amp) and the efficiency reduces heat. A disadvantage is that audible distortion can occur at lower frequencies than in A/B applications. This is why class D technology is commonplace in high powered woofer applications.

Newer to the car audio market is class GH ( G and or H ) The output of the amplifier is similar to class A/B but is more efficient in terms of power consumption. The technology is newer to car audio applications but I believe will end being very common because you don't have to trade sound quality for efficiency like class D applications.

Hopefully I didn't bore you too bad, How the different topologies achieve their output is a lot more complicated but I don't feel its neccessary to get into here. Hopefully this helps

What is the typical power rating for class G/H amps and who manufactures them?

speedfreak28 · 03-13-2010, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 37Z

What is the typical power rating for class G/H amps and who manufactures them?

The power ratings vary and the only company Ive seen using the technology so far is clarion. Alot of companies are using hybrid versions of class D to improve output and maintain efficiency. I wouldnt consider class G/H amps the best route yet until the technology advances.

horsemanwill · 03-15-2010, 11:46 PM

for class H look towards Arc Mini amps

for different amp classes and wat does wat go here

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03-11-2010, 09:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
BobQ Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Conn Posts: 20 Drives: 370 Z Nizmo Rep Power: 16	AMP Classification Can any one explain to me the amp classification? and what is most desirable for use in autos? Thanks Bob Last edited by BobQ; 03-11-2010 at 09:52 PM.

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bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	A/B are made for working regular spakers Class D are made for working hard and being efficient at it mostly for sub amps. If you look at the link car audio 101 they are explained. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

03-11-2010, 10:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Didn't know about the G and H classes thanks Mike. Learn something everyday. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

03-11-2010, 10:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	The pdx 5 would be fine it is made for running speakers and a sub. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

03-11-2010, 10:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
speedfreak28 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: south jersey Posts: 247 Drives: 05 ram, 79 z28 Rep Power: 16	Ill keep it simple because it can get more complicated than what is neccessary to explain the uses in car audio. Ill break it down into classes real quick. Class A/b amplifiers were the main stay in car amplifier technology for a long time because its not very complex. They are still used today in a lot of audiophile installations because of the output and ability to reproduce higher frequencies cleaner and with less distortion. A big disadvantage is that they are pretty inefficient and as far as car audio is concerned, class A/B could involve costly upgrades to the vehicles electrical system to provide proper current. Class D has been the main stay in car audio for most of the past 10 years. Mainly because it is cheaper and more efficient( basically you need less voltage across the board to maintain the given rms of the amp) and the efficiency reduces heat. A disadvantage is that audible distortion can occur at lower frequencies than in A/B applications. This is why class D technology is commonplace in high powered woofer applications. Newer to the car audio market is class GH ( G and or H ) The output of the amplifier is similar to class A/B but is more efficient in terms of power consumption. The technology is newer to car audio applications but I believe will end being very common because you don't have to trade sound quality for efficiency like class D applications. Hopefully I didn't bore you too bad, How the different topologies achieve their output is a lot more complicated but I don't feel its neccessary to get into here. Hopefully this helps

03-11-2010, 10:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
BobQ Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Conn Posts: 20 Drives: 370 Z Nizmo Rep Power: 16	So would a class D amplifier like a Alpine pdx be good for front speakers and a driver? or would it be better to use a A or A/B for the fronts? and D for the driver? I was going to go with a Alpine PDX 5 for both fronts and driver? Thanks Bob

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WICKED_GRIN Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: New England Posts: 466 Drives: 370Z Roadster Black Rep Power: 16	^^ I agree

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horsemanwill Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Ks Posts: 9 Drives: 94 buick lesabre Rep Power: 16	for class H look towards Arc Mini amps for different amp classes and wat does wat go here ZED AUDIO CORPORATION