Jl 13w7?

speedoflife · 02-16-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by speedfreak28

The 13W7 Is a great sub, overpriced sure. The AA havoc is a great sub as well. OP, what are you goals? to jsut get loud? SQ? or both? Check out the SSA xcon. Its a great sounding sub that can get crazy loud.

SSA Xcon 12" Sub woofer1750rms 31mm Xmax

Another GREAT option. So much went into making this sub guys. It's an incredible piece of equipment. Oh and screw JL amps. For that price, I could get 3 Sundown Audio amps!!! And Jake (the owner of Sundown) is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Customer service for that company = A+++

ddvette9 · 02-16-2010, 02:22 PM

VP1, check my signature and you will se I am running a 10w7 powered ONLY by 250x1 rms. This sub is supposed to have 400-500 rms to perform well and with my setup it gives me a headache. I have to turn the bass down to -3 or 0 a lot with most of my music, and again thats running the sub at half of its capabilities.

I listen to hip hop and trance, so I listen to some very deep music. My 10w7 straight blows people away, no questios asked.

a 13w7 would prob be overkill, as ou would have to listen to the sub with the gain turned way down a lot of the time unless you were showing it off. My 10w7 causes rattling already in the hatch/license plate.

As far as the haters of JL, thats what they are, haters. Yes there may be cheaper/better/nicer subs in people's opinion, however, I dont care what anybody say......JL IS THE STANDARD for the mass market and they are top notch subs. But that is the beauty of being a consumer in a free market economy, you can chose whatever you want. That being said, I love my w7 and will probably downgrade to a w3 or w6 in order to fit into a zenclosures box and reduce some weight.

speedoflife · 02-16-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ddvette9

As far as the haters of JL, thats what they are, haters. Yes there may be cheaper/better/nicer subs in people's opinion, however, I dont care what anybody say......JL IS THE STANDARD for the mass market and they are top notch subs. But that is the beauty of being a consumer in a free market economy, you can chose whatever you want. That being said, I love my w7 and will probably downgrade to a w3 or w6 in order to fit into a zenclosures box and reduce some weight.

Haters is an ignorant term. I'm saying nothing against JL's quality. They make excellent subwoofers and amps. Their equipment is top notch and very capable of winning competitions. Saying that it is the standard makes no sense, however. That's like saying the Nissan is the standard for the mass automotive market. People look for many different things in audio, just as they look at many aspects when looking for a car (or maybe a truck or track toy or minivan).
I'm a realist, not a hater. I'm giving hard, cold facts. I've done my research and basing my opinions and statements on more than what I have owned/heard. When I had a problem with my Havoc (a little too much excursion at 22 Htz

), it was very, very nice to be able to talk to the OWNER of the company directly to solve my issue (Scott). Customer service is top notch and those guys put a lot into the product they make.
Both subs are purely excellent choices, I'm just throwing an option out there besides the JL

's. Nothing like a little bit of capitalistic competition!

PS - If this is your first REAL sub setup, the 13" W7 would be overkill. Capable of some huge scores and loud bass in a little hatchback.

mintcondition · 02-17-2010, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by speedoflife

Another GREAT option. So much went into making this sub guys. It's an incredible piece of equipment. Oh and screw JL amps. For that price, I could get 3 Sundown Audio amps!!! And Jake (the owner of Sundown) is one of the nicest people you will ever meet. Customer service for that company = A+++

True, one could get 3 Nissan GT-R than 1 Lamborghini Gallardo; they both have similar 0-60 speed performance, and possibly similar track performance. But if I was filthy rich and I could only choose one it would definitely be the Lambo.

If the performance was the same between a Uniball ink pen vs a Mont Blanc pen, I would prefer the Mont Blanc pen. Same thing goes with Rolex watches vs other watches such as fossil, I would prefer the Rolex. Same goes with Louis Vuitton wallets I prefer that than others.

It is just human nature to want something better, we don't need over 100 horsepower to get to places, right? But we just want it for no practical reason.

YouTube - R-35 GTR Vs Gallardo,GT3,997T,NSX-R

bigaudiofanat · 02-17-2010, 06:49 AM

If you buy car audio for the "WOW" factor for name brands and not sound quality your getting into car audio for the wrong reasons. Car audio is about improving the sound quality in your car.

speedoflife · 02-17-2010, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

If you buy car audio for the "WOW" factor for name brands and not sound quality your getting into car audio for the wrong reasons. Car audio is about improving the sound quality in your car.

The thing is that most people just don't care. They're no different from the wealthy woman that buys a Z because it is cute and never takes it over 4k RPM. They don't care what it can do, but they just get it because they want something that they know will work. Everyone has different passions, and stereo isn't a passion for everyone.

speedfreak28 · 02-17-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

If you buy car audio for the "WOW" factor for name brands and not sound quality your getting into car audio for the wrong reasons. Car audio is about improving the sound quality in your car.

this coming from someone who reccomends audison and rainbow

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