Base vs. Bose speaker/sound

kenchan · 09-17-2009, 10:40 PM

+1 my G has Bose but i couldn't keep it stock.

speedaudio64 · 09-17-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I will explain why the bose system is worse than the base system. Yes the bose has more speakers and a sub and all. But it also has what is called "sound processing circuitry" What this dose is looks at the signal of music and looks at what parts will distort the speakers and what parts it can not reproduce. Than what it dose is cuts them out of the signal than amplifies them and sends them to the speakers. So bose knows there speakers can not take a lot of power nor can there amps put a lot of power out. That is why the put this in ALL there merchandise form car audio to HT systems. So those subs in the bose system are not going to put out much of any base. In fact I have hear reports that the base models produces more bass than the bose system. This is the main reason why the base model is better than the bose. Not even upgrading the speakers will help the problem as the amp and processor will still do what they are doing. There are many other reasons as well.

What he said

Even if you get the base one you are probably still going to want to upgrade.

polarity · 09-18-2009, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigaudiofanat

I will explain why the bose system is worse than the base system. Yes the bose has more speakers and a sub and all. But it also has what is called "sound processing circuitry" What this dose is looks at the signal of music and looks at what parts will distort the speakers and what parts it can not reproduce. Than what it dose is cuts them out of the signal than amplifies them and sends them to the speakers. So bose knows there speakers can not take a lot of power nor can there amps put a lot of power out. That is why the put this in ALL there merchandise form car audio to HT systems. So those subs in the bose system are not going to put out much of any base. In fact I have hear reports that the base models produces more bass than the bose system. This is the main reason why the base model is better than the bose. Not even upgrading the speakers will help the problem as the amp and processor will still do what they are doing. There are many other reasons as well.

I agree with this, somewhat. Big is the man here so I'd trust his word of anyones but after listening to both bose and base I have to say it depends on what you want/like. I got the bose system and I've been kicking myself ever since. In my opinion it is a nice upgrade from base, but honestly if I would have spent the same money in an aftermarket setup I would have 10x the sound setup I have now. If you just like to listen to music loud, that sounds decent, with an OK bass hit, then the bose will be fine for you. If you're a sound nut who really cares about SQ, save your money, get the base, and do an aftermarket install.

Edit: Forgot to mention that if you do get the bose with nav/bluetooth/etc you will end up paying MORE if you dont like it, since you can't upgrade single components on it. From what Big and the others here have told me, bose is an all or nothing deal. You replace one piece you replace them all.

-William

kannibul · 09-18-2009, 10:28 AM

Bose systems sound better than standard OEM systems (otherwise they'd not have a market entrance point) - but they sure as hell don't sound as good as a well-designed aftermarket sound system.

kannibul · 09-18-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by polarity

From what Big and the others here have told me, bose is an all or nothing deal. You replace one piece you replace them all.

-William

You would have to replace them all, but, you could do them in phases.

It's debatable which would be a better direction - but, I'd probably replace the drivers first, then replace the head unit/amp/crossovers,etc...

chris410 · 09-18-2009, 10:35 AM

I have a touring and the bose sounds good for a stock system. If you want "good" sound the bose/touring is fine however, if you want REALLY good sound get the base or exclude the bose and upgrade.

bigaudiofanat · 09-18-2009, 10:49 AM

I have sat in both base and bose models and listened to a cd. The bose system just faded out stuff as you turn up the volume. I mean what is the point to that if you want it loud.

polarity · 09-18-2009, 10:55 AM

Hey Big, quick question. Can you upgrade the Bose parts with better bose stuff? Looking around at prices if I wanted to completely replace my bose setup and keep everything I have working properly (nav, bluetooth, etc) it's going to cost a ton, is there such a thing as a good bose setup (bigger amp, better sub and speakers)?

Sorry to hijack the thread.

-William

bigaudiofanat · 09-18-2009, 11:01 AM

Honestly it would not even be worth the time and effort it is all the same. And with the processor there it would not help ata ll. Also even if you were to bypass the factory amp and run the bose speakers off that. You can not do it because the bose speakers are a 2 ohm load you would fry your new head unit as they can only are stable at 4 ohms.

Equinox · 09-18-2009, 11:14 AM

I have the base sound system. I put a Kenwood DNX9140 Nav DVD system in. It sounds great, but I want to make it sound as good as it can. I will replace the four speakers up front with nice 1 way components - but I plan on putting two ways behind me. I notice the car still has the grills in the back where the bose speakers would go, but are there wires I can connect too behind the grills?

bigaudiofanat · 09-18-2009, 11:21 AM

The rear speakers have been discussed in anther thread most of us agree not to put anything there. Also I think you mean 2 way setup 1 way is just one speaker you have a tweeter and a woofer that is a 2 way. Yes you get a lot better sound from upgrading the head unit. No matter what you buy stock systems are nothing more than something there to play music. Even if it is the bose one it is not as good as what you paid for it could be.

Stock speakers vs aftermarket

As for the bose here is there sub amp now that thing can not push any sub hard. See the difference?

kenchan · 09-18-2009, 11:23 AM

Lol

polarity · 09-18-2009, 11:27 AM

Wow, I suddenly have a huge inferiority complex and really really really need to replace that bose amp before someone sees it. That thing just sucks lol

-William

bigaudiofanat · 09-18-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by polarity

Wow, I suddenly have a huge inferiority complex and really really really need to replace that bose amp before someone sees it. That thing just sucks lol

-William

LOL that is the thing though you can not just upgrade the amp if you do that you have to upgrade the speakers as well. Or you will have to use a jl clean sweep to integrate it into the bose system.

Carbon_z · 09-18-2009, 11:50 AM

i didnt even see the bose until i was like "WTF IS THAT" lol ohhhh

09-18-2009, 10:35 AM	#21 (permalink)
chris410 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 345 Drives: 10' GT500 Rep Power: 16	I have a touring and the bose sounds good for a stock system. If you want "good" sound the bose/touring is fine however, if you want REALLY good sound get the base or exclude the bose and upgrade. __________________ Chris Current: 2014 WRX Stage I + SPT / 2013 Hayabusa 202HP Former:09 370Z 7-AT PW/Ark Type 2 exhaust/Evo R lip/TSW Nurburgring carbon

09-18-2009, 10:49 AM	#22 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	I have sat in both base and bose models and listened to a cd. The bose system just faded out stuff as you turn up the volume. I mean what is the point to that if you want it loud. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-18-2009, 11:01 AM	#24 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	Honestly it would not even be worth the time and effort it is all the same. And with the processor there it would not help ata ll. Also even if you were to bypass the factory amp and run the bose speakers off that. You can not do it because the bose speakers are a 2 ohm load you would fry your new head unit as they can only are stable at 4 ohms. __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-18-2009, 11:14 AM	#25 (permalink)
Equinox Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Beaumont, TX Posts: 685 Drives: 06 Porsche Carrera S Rep Power: 18	I have the base sound system. I put a Kenwood DNX9140 Nav DVD system in. It sounds great, but I want to make it sound as good as it can. I will replace the four speakers up front with nice 1 way components - but I plan on putting two ways behind me. I notice the car still has the grills in the back where the bose speakers would go, but are there wires I can connect too behind the grills? __________________ Check out my Albums '13 Subaru WRX STi \| '06 Porsche 911 Carrera S (SOLD) \| '96 Mazda RX-7 6.0L V8 RHD (SOLD) \| '09 Nissan Nismo #0058 (SOLD)

09-18-2009, 11:21 AM	#26 (permalink)
bigaudiofanat Car Audio Installer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Magnolia DE Posts: 8,342 Drives: 2012 Infiniti G37x Rep Power: 853	The rear speakers have been discussed in anther thread most of us agree not to put anything there. Also I think you mean 2 way setup 1 way is just one speaker you have a tweeter and a woofer that is a 2 way. Yes you get a lot better sound from upgrading the head unit. No matter what you buy stock systems are nothing more than something there to play music. Even if it is the bose one it is not as good as what you paid for it could be. Stock speakers vs aftermarket As for the bose here is there sub amp now that thing can not push any sub hard. See the difference? __________________ Need help with car audio or electronics? Let me know!! Need Help Let Me Know Direct email address reimermatt@gmail.com Owner of: Dynamic Mobile Audio Follow me below https://www.facebook.com/Dynamicmobileaudio/

09-17-2009, 10:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	+1 my G has Bose but i couldn't keep it stock.

09-18-2009, 10:28 AM	#19 (permalink)
kannibul A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 2,281 Drives: 370z Touring/Sport Rep Power: 267	Bose systems sound better than standard OEM systems (otherwise they'd not have a market entrance point) - but they sure as hell don't sound as good as a well-designed aftermarket sound system.

09-18-2009, 10:55 AM	#23 (permalink)
polarity Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 166 Drives: [2009 370Z] Rep Power: 16	Hey Big, quick question. Can you upgrade the Bose parts with better bose stuff? Looking around at prices if I wanted to completely replace my bose setup and keep everything I have working properly (nav, bluetooth, etc) it's going to cost a ton, is there such a thing as a good bose setup (bigger amp, better sub and speakers)? Sorry to hijack the thread. -William

09-18-2009, 11:23 AM	#27 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141521	Lol

09-18-2009, 11:27 AM	#28 (permalink)
polarity Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 166 Drives: [2009 370Z] Rep Power: 16	Wow, I suddenly have a huge inferiority complex and really really really need to replace that bose amp before someone sees it. That thing just sucks lol -William

09-18-2009, 11:50 AM	#30 (permalink)
Carbon_z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,694 Drives: Carbon Fiber 370z Rep Power: 19	i didnt even see the bose until i was like "WTF IS THAT" lol ohhhh __________________ Full Carbon Fiber Nissan 370z "400zTT" Fully Built 4.0L Twin Turbo 1300hp, 1100whp. Follow me on Instagram at http://www.instagram.com/carbonz.

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